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Here is a link to Stamp Forgeries. It does not offer a written explanation of the difference, but just a picture of a two forgeries! Tyler's Focus on Forgeries does not mention this issue. Yours looks like the one on the right. But without a detailed explanation of the characteristics of a forgery, I do not know!
http://stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-puerto-rico-1873-1898/
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Here is the text that is associated with the pictures. Unfortunately I do not have any of the references.
133. Landing of Columbus, 1893. Three forgeries: Mercer Bristow, “Forged Columbus commemorative easy to detect”, Stamp Collecting, Vol. 74 (October 9, 2000): 22. Don Glickstein, “Poor Don’s Almanac”, American Philatelist, Vol. 100 (February 1986): 154,55. Three forgeries: Fritz Billig, Billig’s Philatelic Handbook, Vol. 6, pp.158-61. R.B. Preston, “The Puerto Rican Colombian Commemorative Stamp of 1893.”, The Stamp Specialist, 1942, pp.61-68. George B. Sloane, “Sloane’s Column”, Stamps (U.S.), Vol. 39 (June 6, 1942): 337. Fournier forgery: The Serrane Guide/ Stamp Forgeries of the World to 1926, p.282 (Yvert 101). J. Dorn (Publisher), The Forged Stamps of all Countries, p.208.
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Thank you George. I will see if I can find one of those references. That stamp is not mine, just an image I downloaded. I have not yet purchased one, but intent to. Since they are so pricey, I want to make sure I choose a real one.
Sean
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I asked "Falshung" of TSF and got this response
Above genuine position 15 on the sheet of 20
1. The top letters are 1.9mm X 19mm, forgeries are larger
2. The horizon lines become progressively closer together
3. The square frame of the ornament is very close to the main frame. In forgeries it is sometimes farther away and more distinct
4. 8 lines to the top of the galleon
5. This figure has a medallion on his forehead
6. This figure has a buttoned shirt
7. The head of this figure is bounded by 3 lines
8. The hand touches the railing. In some forgeries it does not or is broken
9. The opening of the 3 is very narrow but much larger with most forgeries. Note the thickness of the 3
10. The perfs are 12, forgeries are 11.5
11. The mast is generally weak and very faint on some. The forgeries generally have a thick mast and one with none.
In one forgery the ocean is very rough, disturbed
There is also an imperforate but it is crude and the corner elements have many leaves
seanpashby's stamp - color/quality corrected
It appears to meet most of the requirements but plating is not possible with size & quality
NOTE there appears to be not 3 but at least 5 or 6 forgeries
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Thank you so much Charles! Exactly what I needed. I am going to post a link to a page that delves into this stamp in great detail, plating all 16 positions. Unfortunately, it is in Spanish, so hopefully it might help someone in the future.
Sean
http://www.filaposta.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=9934&start=50&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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Good discussion - thanks for the link to it!
Incidentally, you can use your browser window to translate the page to English.
It won't translate the graphics texts, but it will translate the discussion.
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I know this stamp is/was heavily faked. Does anyone know how to tell the difference? Is there a key point to look for?
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re: Puerto Rico Forgery
Here is a link to Stamp Forgeries. It does not offer a written explanation of the difference, but just a picture of a two forgeries! Tyler's Focus on Forgeries does not mention this issue. Yours looks like the one on the right. But without a detailed explanation of the characteristics of a forgery, I do not know!
http://stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-puerto-rico-1873-1898/
George
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re: Puerto Rico Forgery
Here is the text that is associated with the pictures. Unfortunately I do not have any of the references.
133. Landing of Columbus, 1893. Three forgeries: Mercer Bristow, “Forged Columbus commemorative easy to detect”, Stamp Collecting, Vol. 74 (October 9, 2000): 22. Don Glickstein, “Poor Don’s Almanac”, American Philatelist, Vol. 100 (February 1986): 154,55. Three forgeries: Fritz Billig, Billig’s Philatelic Handbook, Vol. 6, pp.158-61. R.B. Preston, “The Puerto Rican Colombian Commemorative Stamp of 1893.”, The Stamp Specialist, 1942, pp.61-68. George B. Sloane, “Sloane’s Column”, Stamps (U.S.), Vol. 39 (June 6, 1942): 337. Fournier forgery: The Serrane Guide/ Stamp Forgeries of the World to 1926, p.282 (Yvert 101). J. Dorn (Publisher), The Forged Stamps of all Countries, p.208.
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Thank you George. I will see if I can find one of those references. That stamp is not mine, just an image I downloaded. I have not yet purchased one, but intent to. Since they are so pricey, I want to make sure I choose a real one.
Sean
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I asked "Falshung" of TSF and got this response
Above genuine position 15 on the sheet of 20
1. The top letters are 1.9mm X 19mm, forgeries are larger
2. The horizon lines become progressively closer together
3. The square frame of the ornament is very close to the main frame. In forgeries it is sometimes farther away and more distinct
4. 8 lines to the top of the galleon
5. This figure has a medallion on his forehead
6. This figure has a buttoned shirt
7. The head of this figure is bounded by 3 lines
8. The hand touches the railing. In some forgeries it does not or is broken
9. The opening of the 3 is very narrow but much larger with most forgeries. Note the thickness of the 3
10. The perfs are 12, forgeries are 11.5
11. The mast is generally weak and very faint on some. The forgeries generally have a thick mast and one with none.
In one forgery the ocean is very rough, disturbed
There is also an imperforate but it is crude and the corner elements have many leaves
seanpashby's stamp - color/quality corrected
It appears to meet most of the requirements but plating is not possible with size & quality
NOTE there appears to be not 3 but at least 5 or 6 forgeries
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Thank you so much Charles! Exactly what I needed. I am going to post a link to a page that delves into this stamp in great detail, plating all 16 positions. Unfortunately, it is in Spanish, so hopefully it might help someone in the future.
Sean
http://www.filaposta.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=9934&start=50&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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Good discussion - thanks for the link to it!
Incidentally, you can use your browser window to translate the page to English.
It won't translate the graphics texts, but it will translate the discussion.
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