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As a part of this 'collection' there are a number of 1948 - 1949 German issues #557 - #569 and #571 - #573 with the diagonal "Berlin" overprint. I noted that for both the black and red overprints, there is a note warning of forged overprints and cancellations. How does one try to differentiate the fakes from the real thing?
See some examples below... Thanks for your assistance. Take Care, Big Daddy Dave
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Stanley Gibbons lists 34 of these, 20 black overprints (1948), and 14 red (1949), several of them highly priced. There's no note about forgeries, although with overprints it's always a possibility. Scanning a low value stamp (as less likely to be forged) and comparing the overprint closely with others should reveal to the observant eye whether the overprints are sufficiently identical to rule out forgeries.
You'd do well to assemble a complete set of either, whether mint or used, but ten of the black set and 3 of the red are valued at less than £10 ($13.20). Hardest stamps are the top two values, 3m and 5m, used in the black set, which Gibbons values at £900 ($1187) apiece.
Forged cancellations are most likely to appear on the top five values in the black set, less so in the red.
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2 BPP certicates and sets here ...
https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40187
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Guthrum and phos45... Thanks for your input and feedback. Challenging stamps to verify, that's for sure. Take Care, Big Daddy Dave
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On used stamps the first check is to ensure that the overprint is under the postmark ! -and also that any legible postmarks are genuine Berlin postmarks of the time, as yours appear to be.
Most forgers are unlikely to go down the road of aquiring a mint stamp, forging the overprint and then forging a cancellation too - unless it is a VERY valuable stamp.
Of course one of your examples has an postmark which ( conveniently ?? ) misses the overprint. Without knowing anything about the subject that would immediately command a closer look !
Malcolm
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I have been working through envelopes, old scrapbooks and shoe boxes, exploring a lot of German stamps...from the early 1900's through the mid-70's. Almost all are used and they aren't hard to identify via my Scott catalog. They were accumulated by an older, now deceased German woman.
As a part of this 'collection' there are a number of 1948 - 1949 German issues #557 - #569 and #571 - #573 with the diagonal "Berlin" overprint. I noted that for both the black and red overprints, there is a note warning of forged overprints and cancellations. How does one try to differentiate the fakes from the real thing?
See some examples below... Thanks for your assistance. Take Care, Big Daddy Dave
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re: 1948 - 1949 Berlin Occupation Stamps
Stanley Gibbons lists 34 of these, 20 black overprints (1948), and 14 red (1949), several of them highly priced. There's no note about forgeries, although with overprints it's always a possibility. Scanning a low value stamp (as less likely to be forged) and comparing the overprint closely with others should reveal to the observant eye whether the overprints are sufficiently identical to rule out forgeries.
You'd do well to assemble a complete set of either, whether mint or used, but ten of the black set and 3 of the red are valued at less than £10 ($13.20). Hardest stamps are the top two values, 3m and 5m, used in the black set, which Gibbons values at £900 ($1187) apiece.
Forged cancellations are most likely to appear on the top five values in the black set, less so in the red.
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re: 1948 - 1949 Berlin Occupation Stamps
2 BPP certicates and sets here ...
https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40187
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re: 1948 - 1949 Berlin Occupation Stamps
Guthrum and phos45... Thanks for your input and feedback. Challenging stamps to verify, that's for sure. Take Care, Big Daddy Dave
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re: 1948 - 1949 Berlin Occupation Stamps
On used stamps the first check is to ensure that the overprint is under the postmark ! -and also that any legible postmarks are genuine Berlin postmarks of the time, as yours appear to be.
Most forgers are unlikely to go down the road of aquiring a mint stamp, forging the overprint and then forging a cancellation too - unless it is a VERY valuable stamp.
Of course one of your examples has an postmark which ( conveniently ?? ) misses the overprint. Without knowing anything about the subject that would immediately command a closer look !
Malcolm
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