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As I compare the stamps shown on the Smithsonian's Arago site, I'd say your stamp is gold & Prussian blue (Scott 3795); however, I''m colorblind so you had better look for yourself!
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I checked Scott 2013 specialized, but it doesn't show all the colors.
I looked in my album, and it looks more like 3799 to me (but maybe I have them in wrong).
I looked them up on Colnect.com and it really looks like 3799 (the colors on my iPad appear to match your stamp).
Not sure if this helps, but I vote for 3799
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Your stamp appears to be the 4th one up on the top row (3795).
The 8th one up on the top row is 3799
You will have the same problem differentiating 3794 and 3798.
Having a PNC strip of 3801a or 3801c would be a useful tool!
Lars
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It is interesting that on my iPad, I cannot tell any difference in color between the two (3795 and 3799).
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Here is a clear enlarged image adjacent to each other.
I would think 3799 to match image but the assigned names are not good. The dull blue looks like Prussian blue to me and the other blue has more green.
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Thanks for the image angore!!!
Just to be sure we are clear, I hope everyone agrees that the top row is 3794, 3795, 3796 and the bottom row is 3799, 3800.
I now agree that 3795 is likely what the OP posted.
I must also agree that the use of "dull blue" and "Prussian Blue" was ill-advised. A simple "blue" and "blue-green" would have done nicely, and been more descriptive.
Is this another example of the Prussians hacking into our hobby?!?!?
I am outraged!
And now I'm going to bed.
Lars
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One of the problems with shades I think is that printing ink is different to paint.
The average person ( other than we stamp collectors ) has colour description based on the tin of paint you buy in your local B&Q ( or Home Depot if you prefer ).
This pre-determined perception ( particularly for technical colours like Prussian Blue other than generalisations like light, dark or even shades like blue/green ) sometimes gets in the way of positive ID.
Also like paints of the same colour in gloss/silk/matt/laquer finish, the absorbtion rate of paper and the composition of ink and its reflective quality also makes the same shade look "different" sometimes.Also scanners and monitors ( and even the light in the room) affects how we see colours.
..... and that is before one gets to individual perceptions of colours and partial colour "blindness". Personally I have grave doubts that some of the different shades shown in catalogues are actually different ( other than in the eyes of catalogue editors and optimistic collectors ! ) I can point you at modern GB stamps listed as one shade only with differences far more striking than any differentiated catalogue shades on older stamps.
Nothing as methodology beats seeing the stamp "in the flesh" alongside a known identified copy.
Malcolm
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Prussian Blue (per the Internet)
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Is that Prussian Blue ink or Prussian Blue paint ?
Malcolm
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Supposedly RGB: 0, 49, 83.
Yes a color varies depending on situation. My point Prussian blue was it is a dark blue and what they call Prussian is not what I would call Prussian Blue.
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re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
As I compare the stamps shown on the Smithsonian's Arago site, I'd say your stamp is gold & Prussian blue (Scott 3795); however, I''m colorblind so you had better look for yourself!
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re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
I checked Scott 2013 specialized, but it doesn't show all the colors.
I looked in my album, and it looks more like 3799 to me (but maybe I have them in wrong).
I looked them up on Colnect.com and it really looks like 3799 (the colors on my iPad appear to match your stamp).
Not sure if this helps, but I vote for 3799
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re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
Your stamp appears to be the 4th one up on the top row (3795).
The 8th one up on the top row is 3799
You will have the same problem differentiating 3794 and 3798.
Having a PNC strip of 3801a or 3801c would be a useful tool!
Lars
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re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
It is interesting that on my iPad, I cannot tell any difference in color between the two (3795 and 3799).
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re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
Here is a clear enlarged image adjacent to each other.
I would think 3799 to match image but the assigned names are not good. The dull blue looks like Prussian blue to me and the other blue has more green.
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re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
Thanks for the image angore!!!
Just to be sure we are clear, I hope everyone agrees that the top row is 3794, 3795, 3796 and the bottom row is 3799, 3800.
I now agree that 3795 is likely what the OP posted.
I must also agree that the use of "dull blue" and "Prussian Blue" was ill-advised. A simple "blue" and "blue-green" would have done nicely, and been more descriptive.
Is this another example of the Prussians hacking into our hobby?!?!?
I am outraged!
And now I'm going to bed.
Lars
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04:11:00am
re: US Stamp ID Needed 3795 or 3799
One of the problems with shades I think is that printing ink is different to paint.
The average person ( other than we stamp collectors ) has colour description based on the tin of paint you buy in your local B&Q ( or Home Depot if you prefer ).
This pre-determined perception ( particularly for technical colours like Prussian Blue other than generalisations like light, dark or even shades like blue/green ) sometimes gets in the way of positive ID.
Also like paints of the same colour in gloss/silk/matt/laquer finish, the absorbtion rate of paper and the composition of ink and its reflective quality also makes the same shade look "different" sometimes.Also scanners and monitors ( and even the light in the room) affects how we see colours.
..... and that is before one gets to individual perceptions of colours and partial colour "blindness". Personally I have grave doubts that some of the different shades shown in catalogues are actually different ( other than in the eyes of catalogue editors and optimistic collectors ! ) I can point you at modern GB stamps listed as one shade only with differences far more striking than any differentiated catalogue shades on older stamps.
Nothing as methodology beats seeing the stamp "in the flesh" alongside a known identified copy.
Malcolm
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Prussian Blue (per the Internet)
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Is that Prussian Blue ink or Prussian Blue paint ?
Malcolm
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Supposedly RGB: 0, 49, 83.
Yes a color varies depending on situation. My point Prussian blue was it is a dark blue and what they call Prussian is not what I would call Prussian Blue.
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