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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

 

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13 Oct 2017
08:58:23am
I am struggling to find this stamp and its compatriots in both Steiner album pages and SG catalogue. Can anyone help?


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13 Oct 2017
09:05:00am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

I don't have SG for Germany, but look under post-WWII occupation issues of Germany for the Russian Zone - Saxony.

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michael78651

13 Oct 2017
11:13:49am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

For the Steiner pages, they are found in the Germany - Russian Occupation pages. They are on the Saxony pages, 1946 semi-postal Reconstruction set.

I looked in Gibbons too, but couldn't find them listed in the general world wide catalog. Gibbons notes that they are found in the Part 7 Germany Catalog. Scott and Michel do list them. The Scott number, if it helps, is #13NB2.

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13 Oct 2017
11:16:41am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Hey Richmond. You're in luck! I'm tired of spending 20 hours lately to get my titles and catalog values correct and into my Approval Pages - to sell 27 stamps at 5c each. So...

I'm spending time today sorting and working on my Germany collection. I happen to have a few of these in front of me, so my album was nearby. They are on my Steiner Pages (love them!) as Roy predicted:

Russian Occupation of Saxony / Semi-Postal Stamps / Reconstruction 1946

If you can't find the page LMK and I will email it to you. In addition to this 12+8 there is a 6+4 and a 42+28. The set of 3 was issued Perforated and Imperforate.

For future reference, another great resource to search for stamps is the StampWorld on-line catalog. I often use this first for the search function then go to Scotts for the catalog # and CV.

Cheers, Dave.


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13 Oct 2017
11:21:36am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Aaarrrggghhh! Angry

Trust the omnipresent (and WAY more knowledgeable) Mikey####s to scoop me with the info you needed as I double-checked my spelling, grammar and punctuation (darned Adult ADD!)

I think I'll give up trying to be helpful and sell another $1.35 of stamps this weekend instead.

Dave. Crying

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michael78651

13 Oct 2017
11:22:34am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

You added some more information that I didn't have in my response. That's a good thing.

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13 Oct 2017
11:27:33am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

I know I shouldn't but I can't resist...

I don't have an SG catalog, but in Scotts it is listed as 13NB2. CV 25c Unused and $1.90 Used. The MNH Premium (for the set, so I assume could be extrapolated to an individual stamp "somewhat") is +33.3%.


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michael78651

13 Oct 2017
11:34:07am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

You are incorrigible...Laughing

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13 Oct 2017
11:51:04am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

"You are incorrigible..."



Oddly enough, just two weeks ago my friend Judy described me as being "occasionally corrigible". In the absence of carrying my dictionary/thesaurus, I was't sure if I was being complimented or dissed...but I now think she was right.

Because although I would qualify this status further as "very very very occasionally" - and according to my recollection of Calculus, probably approaching "zero" - I believe "incorrigible" is acceptable.

So...

Thank you, Mikey ####s !

Dave


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13 Oct 2017
12:23:09pm
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Your Honor, and members of the jury...I rest my case!

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13 Oct 2017
01:54:21pm
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Hi Richmond,

I do have a specialist SG Germany Catalogue BUT I'm am away until Monday. I'll look it up for you when I get home.

It is post war Soviet Occupied Germany, 1949 I think. 'Wiederaufbrau' translates as 'Reconstruction'.

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13 Oct 2017
07:11:38pm
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Thanks everyone - Steiner Russian Occupation pages is one place I didn't look!

I assume these would be found in the Russian occupation section as well. Possibly Leipzig Arms & Others - this would align with the set I have:

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13 Oct 2017
07:48:14pm
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Yes, they'll be there, but not under Saxony. They are under West Saxony, and part of the same set: 14N15 and 14N19 if they are watermarked. If unwatermarked, add an "a" to the end of the catalog number.

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14 Oct 2017
12:50:05am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Nice sleuthing and detailed responses leading to enlightenment! Angel

Thanks all for a fascinating set of postings as answers were given and further details brought to light.

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jillcrow

14 Oct 2017
08:55:44am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

There is some more info on the Leipzig stamps here:

http://www.stamp-collecting-world.com/sovietzone_WSAX.html

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14 Oct 2017
06:46:05pm
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Lemaven

"For future reference, another great resource to search for stamps is the StampWorld on-line catalog. I often use this first for the search function then go to Scotts for the catalog # and CV."



I general use colnect as it has good search functions that help you narrow down to the stamp you re looking for

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15 Oct 2017
07:55:05am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Your stamp is listed in the Gibbons Part 7 (Germany) 9th edition (p.60) as RC30. It is a Russian Zone issue for the Saxony area (Higher Postal Directorate at Halle) of 1946.

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23 Oct 2017
09:24:31am
re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Hi Richmond,

I see Guthrum got there before me with the SG number for the Saxony issue. This set was also issued imperf

The other two you put up are from West Saxony. Russian Occupation issues 1946.
The 3pf brown is RD31 and the 8pf violet is RD34. both Perf 13x12 1/2

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13 Oct 2017
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I am struggling to find this stamp and its compatriots in both Steiner album pages and SG catalogue. Can anyone help?


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13 Oct 2017
09:05:00am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

I don't have SG for Germany, but look under post-WWII occupation issues of Germany for the Russian Zone - Saxony.

Roy

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michael78651

13 Oct 2017
11:13:49am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

For the Steiner pages, they are found in the Germany - Russian Occupation pages. They are on the Saxony pages, 1946 semi-postal Reconstruction set.

I looked in Gibbons too, but couldn't find them listed in the general world wide catalog. Gibbons notes that they are found in the Part 7 Germany Catalog. Scott and Michel do list them. The Scott number, if it helps, is #13NB2.

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13 Oct 2017
11:16:41am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Hey Richmond. You're in luck! I'm tired of spending 20 hours lately to get my titles and catalog values correct and into my Approval Pages - to sell 27 stamps at 5c each. So...

I'm spending time today sorting and working on my Germany collection. I happen to have a few of these in front of me, so my album was nearby. They are on my Steiner Pages (love them!) as Roy predicted:

Russian Occupation of Saxony / Semi-Postal Stamps / Reconstruction 1946

If you can't find the page LMK and I will email it to you. In addition to this 12+8 there is a 6+4 and a 42+28. The set of 3 was issued Perforated and Imperforate.

For future reference, another great resource to search for stamps is the StampWorld on-line catalog. I often use this first for the search function then go to Scotts for the catalog # and CV.

Cheers, Dave.


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13 Oct 2017
11:21:36am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Aaarrrggghhh! Angry

Trust the omnipresent (and WAY more knowledgeable) Mikey####s to scoop me with the info you needed as I double-checked my spelling, grammar and punctuation (darned Adult ADD!)

I think I'll give up trying to be helpful and sell another $1.35 of stamps this weekend instead.

Dave. Crying

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michael78651

13 Oct 2017
11:22:34am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

You added some more information that I didn't have in my response. That's a good thing.

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13 Oct 2017
11:27:33am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

I know I shouldn't but I can't resist...

I don't have an SG catalog, but in Scotts it is listed as 13NB2. CV 25c Unused and $1.90 Used. The MNH Premium (for the set, so I assume could be extrapolated to an individual stamp "somewhat") is +33.3%.


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13 Oct 2017
11:34:07am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

You are incorrigible...Laughing

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13 Oct 2017
11:51:04am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

"You are incorrigible..."



Oddly enough, just two weeks ago my friend Judy described me as being "occasionally corrigible". In the absence of carrying my dictionary/thesaurus, I was't sure if I was being complimented or dissed...but I now think she was right.

Because although I would qualify this status further as "very very very occasionally" - and according to my recollection of Calculus, probably approaching "zero" - I believe "incorrigible" is acceptable.

So...

Thank you, Mikey ####s !

Dave


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13 Oct 2017
12:23:09pm

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Your Honor, and members of the jury...I rest my case!

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13 Oct 2017
01:54:21pm

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Hi Richmond,

I do have a specialist SG Germany Catalogue BUT I'm am away until Monday. I'll look it up for you when I get home.

It is post war Soviet Occupied Germany, 1949 I think. 'Wiederaufbrau' translates as 'Reconstruction'.

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13 Oct 2017
07:11:38pm

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Thanks everyone - Steiner Russian Occupation pages is one place I didn't look!

I assume these would be found in the Russian occupation section as well. Possibly Leipzig Arms & Others - this would align with the set I have:

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13 Oct 2017
07:48:14pm

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Yes, they'll be there, but not under Saxony. They are under West Saxony, and part of the same set: 14N15 and 14N19 if they are watermarked. If unwatermarked, add an "a" to the end of the catalog number.

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14 Oct 2017
12:50:05am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Nice sleuthing and detailed responses leading to enlightenment! Angel

Thanks all for a fascinating set of postings as answers were given and further details brought to light.

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jillcrow

14 Oct 2017
08:55:44am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

There is some more info on the Leipzig stamps here:

http://www.stamp-collecting-world.com/sovietzone_WSAX.html

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14 Oct 2017
06:46:05pm

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Lemaven

"For future reference, another great resource to search for stamps is the StampWorld on-line catalog. I often use this first for the search function then go to Scotts for the catalog # and CV."



I general use colnect as it has good search functions that help you narrow down to the stamp you re looking for

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15 Oct 2017
07:55:05am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Your stamp is listed in the Gibbons Part 7 (Germany) 9th edition (p.60) as RC30. It is a Russian Zone issue for the Saxony area (Higher Postal Directorate at Halle) of 1946.

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23 Oct 2017
09:24:31am

re: Germany 1946 - Steiner & SG Cat No

Hi Richmond,

I see Guthrum got there before me with the SG number for the Saxony issue. This set was also issued imperf

The other two you put up are from West Saxony. Russian Occupation issues 1946.
The 3pf brown is RD31 and the 8pf violet is RD34. both Perf 13x12 1/2

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