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Middle East/All : Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

 

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IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!

14 Sep 2017
03:27:23pm
In 1882, Iran produced three stamps:
5c- blue
10c pink
25c green
All engraved boarder-

How do I tell if its real or not. All I hear and read is 'Forgeries abound'. I made this cheat sheet for all to use-please when you find a fake one throw it away or mark it as a fake.
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see http://www.persi.com/ for more info if needed-

not sure drop me a note, ALWAYS glad to help-

lee

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15 Sep 2017
09:58:34am
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

I had to crop this better for all to see. Dang computers, either too big or too small-
Remember this works for the 5ch, 10ch and 25ch-

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16 Sep 2017
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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Great information...so my 5 an 10 are genuine (I also have a fake 5)...but my 25 is not genuine (for 1881 and 1882 )...but I noticed that every 25 seem to have the vertical lines on the RHS well defined, so I wonder if they are all counterfeits?

Does the same rule applies to the 1882-84 stamps (scott 53-53a)? And the 1885-87 surcharged officials?

Thanks
rrr...

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16 Sep 2017
02:40:24pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

lets take a look a these-
Would you buy any of these with your last dollar on earth? (hint hint hint)
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16 Sep 2017
02:47:58pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

And please don't take me wrong, I love this kind of exchange and learning--
These are the common-ebay, hipstamp, oh gosh, stampworld, Iran stamps that are offered for sale all the time-

In one of the article's coming I give descriptive examples of how to tell-especially those two in the middle, scott#53, pictured above--with picture and arrows, circles and a paragraph on the back of each one-WAIT! That's a song, I digress. but seriously. Wait for the article you will love it. Easy to check and easy to tell--

The best thing I go by-#1 RHS INNER FRAME LINE-bottom line, if its strong game over, move on. Don't even blink. just click onto the next stamp-trust me. Condition will throw your maybe stamp down to the dollar range every time-

message to follow--

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16 Sep 2017
02:58:52pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

I like these two a lot. Would you buy these?(I would, I would)
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16 Sep 2017
03:31:05pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

I probably would not buy those two. On each, the groundworks look right, but that could be a light inking. The vertical lines on the right side look too strong to me. Even though they tend to be a bit light, could also be due to a light inking. Cancellations are known to be forged on these stamps as well. It is a common practice for forgers to apply a fake cancel over their forgeries at the locations where verification between fake and original is paramount to make a determination.

With fakes of Iranian stamps outnumbering genuine stamps by factors of 20 or more to 1, anything that makes me even remotely suspicious is enough to make me stay away from buying such a stamp.

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16 Sep 2017
03:33:38pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Really? Ok thanks!

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16 Sep 2017
03:37:09pm

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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Well here is the page from my album..and thanks to you Lee, I see I am batting around 50% on genuine vs counterfeits (now noted with "c")
Great information. Iran counterfeits are discouraging most of us to collect them!
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16 Sep 2017
03:41:59pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Ralph, it may be a discouragement for many to collect these stamps, but I like the hunt for them. Sometimes genuine stamps show up in the bulk lots that sellers offer calling all fakes. Of course in an image of a bulk lot, it is difficult to even see all the stamps let alone make out the tell-tale signs between good and bad.

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16 Sep 2017
03:48:01pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Love the scan!! Awesome!!

1. you got the years all mixed up--

scott# 47, #51, #52

Scott# 47, $51,

2. I just posted a quick thread on type of printing method, check the picture I offered and then look at your page=Look for those white lines-

3. Oh and I'll find the two dot error you need, Just seen it--

Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

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16 Sep 2017
03:54:03pm
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Would you like a valid two dot error or a fake two dot error?

Pictures are for your enjoyment-not selling these-just seen that empty space at the bottom of you page and I just worked those two stamps -hahaha how cool!
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16 Sep 2017
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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Awsome..I always had my doubts about these. Now I see where my mistake is.
So I have to look in my duplicates, and see what else I may have mislabeled.
rrr....

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17 Sep 2017
01:07:34am
re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Would love to see a pic of the extras you have..a check the perf's on the valid stamps..anything 13x12 is pure money...see my auctions..13x12. Keep an eye out

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IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!
14 Sep 2017
03:27:23pm

In 1882, Iran produced three stamps:
5c- blue
10c pink
25c green
All engraved boarder-

How do I tell if its real or not. All I hear and read is 'Forgeries abound'. I made this cheat sheet for all to use-please when you find a fake one throw it away or mark it as a fake.
Image Not Found

see http://www.persi.com/ for more info if needed-

not sure drop me a note, ALWAYS glad to help-

lee

Moderator Note: fixed and activated link


(Modified by Moderator on 2017-09-14 15:44:15)

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15 Sep 2017
09:58:34am

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

I had to crop this better for all to see. Dang computers, either too big or too small-
Remember this works for the 5ch, 10ch and 25ch-

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
16 Sep 2017
02:11:00pm

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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Great information...so my 5 an 10 are genuine (I also have a fake 5)...but my 25 is not genuine (for 1881 and 1882 )...but I noticed that every 25 seem to have the vertical lines on the RHS well defined, so I wonder if they are all counterfeits?

Does the same rule applies to the 1882-84 stamps (scott 53-53a)? And the 1885-87 surcharged officials?

Thanks
rrr...

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"E. Rutherford: All science is either physics or stamp collecting."

IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!
16 Sep 2017
02:40:24pm

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

lets take a look a these-
Would you buy any of these with your last dollar on earth? (hint hint hint)
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IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!
16 Sep 2017
02:47:58pm

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

And please don't take me wrong, I love this kind of exchange and learning--
These are the common-ebay, hipstamp, oh gosh, stampworld, Iran stamps that are offered for sale all the time-

In one of the article's coming I give descriptive examples of how to tell-especially those two in the middle, scott#53, pictured above--with picture and arrows, circles and a paragraph on the back of each one-WAIT! That's a song, I digress. but seriously. Wait for the article you will love it. Easy to check and easy to tell--

The best thing I go by-#1 RHS INNER FRAME LINE-bottom line, if its strong game over, move on. Don't even blink. just click onto the next stamp-trust me. Condition will throw your maybe stamp down to the dollar range every time-

message to follow--

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IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!
16 Sep 2017
02:58:52pm

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

I like these two a lot. Would you buy these?(I would, I would)
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16 Sep 2017
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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

I probably would not buy those two. On each, the groundworks look right, but that could be a light inking. The vertical lines on the right side look too strong to me. Even though they tend to be a bit light, could also be due to a light inking. Cancellations are known to be forged on these stamps as well. It is a common practice for forgers to apply a fake cancel over their forgeries at the locations where verification between fake and original is paramount to make a determination.

With fakes of Iranian stamps outnumbering genuine stamps by factors of 20 or more to 1, anything that makes me even remotely suspicious is enough to make me stay away from buying such a stamp.

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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Really? Ok thanks!

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16 Sep 2017
03:37:09pm

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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Well here is the page from my album..and thanks to you Lee, I see I am batting around 50% on genuine vs counterfeits (now noted with "c")
Great information. Iran counterfeits are discouraging most of us to collect them!
rrr...Image Not Found

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michael78651

16 Sep 2017
03:41:59pm

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Ralph, it may be a discouragement for many to collect these stamps, but I like the hunt for them. Sometimes genuine stamps show up in the bulk lots that sellers offer calling all fakes. Of course in an image of a bulk lot, it is difficult to even see all the stamps let alone make out the tell-tale signs between good and bad.

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IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!
16 Sep 2017
03:48:01pm

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Love the scan!! Awesome!!

1. you got the years all mixed up--

scott# 47, #51, #52

Scott# 47, $51,

2. I just posted a quick thread on type of printing method, check the picture I offered and then look at your page=Look for those white lines-

3. Oh and I'll find the two dot error you need, Just seen it--

Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

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16 Sep 2017
03:54:03pm

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Would you like a valid two dot error or a fake two dot error?

Pictures are for your enjoyment-not selling these-just seen that empty space at the bottom of you page and I just worked those two stamps -hahaha how cool!
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16 Sep 2017
09:48:34pm

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re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Awsome..I always had my doubts about these. Now I see where my mistake is.
So I have to look in my duplicates, and see what else I may have mislabeled.
rrr....

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"E. Rutherford: All science is either physics or stamp collecting."

IPDA past chairman, Sacramento Philatelic Society #2112-past vice president, ISWWSC #2966, Iran philatelic study circle, US Army Veteran, Grandfather of 6, stamp collector/seller!
17 Sep 2017
01:07:34am

re: Fake Vs. Real On Iran Scott# 50, 51, and 52-Easy and quick for you to save money.

Would love to see a pic of the extras you have..a check the perf's on the valid stamps..anything 13x12 is pure money...see my auctions..13x12. Keep an eye out

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