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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Unknown stamp

 

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ccndd
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26 Jul 2017
07:02:26pm
Hi! I just came across this oddity and Google is no help. Zeppelin Mail. Does anyone happen to know what this is and if it has any value. Thanks for any help. Chris of ccnddImage Not FoundT
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Benque

26 Jul 2017
07:19:32pm
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Hi Chris,
Very interesting labels, I think they are.
This similar item sold for 110 pounds.
http://www.corbitts.com/stamp-auctions/auction147/zeppelin_mail-page1.html
Item no 364. Sorry, I couldn't get the image into this post.

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26 Jul 2017
07:27:06pm
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The similar item is a cachet on a cover. It sold for £110 because it had a US C13 on it, and is no use in determining the value of these stamps.

These are not US postage stamps, nor are they postage stamps from any other country. My guess is that they are cinderellas.

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26 Jul 2017
07:30:59pm
re: Unknown stamp

They are A.C. Roessler labels.
http://www.coverspecialist.com/list.html?category_id=13283

Lot 593
https://stampauctionnetwork.com/v/v64310.cfm

Don

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Benque

26 Jul 2017
07:35:02pm
re: Unknown stamp

Thanks smaugs,
The US zeppelin stamps are not in my area of expertise, which is why I didn't mention that aspect.
Chris,
That cachet item is, I believe, identical in design to your 4 items, so definitely of interest in establishing their origin.
Sorry I could not be of more help on this, but will monitor this thread to see what pops up.

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Benque

26 Jul 2017
07:37:22pm
re: Unknown stamp

Good catch Don!
Those labels have a nice price on them.

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26 Jul 2017
08:23:07pm
re: Unknown stamp

Thanks guys. Great info.

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01 Mar 2019
02:42:28pm
re: Unknown stamp

Found the following in a large collection. Believe it is an A.C. Roessler Cinderella. Is there any value and is my guess correct?

Thanks for any information.

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cathotel

01 Mar 2019
06:47:35pm
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mbo1142, you have correctly identified this cinderella. Linns, May 6, 1991 replied to an inquiry about its identity and pointed out it is a parody of a rare De La Rue essay of 1923 which Newfoundland never adopted for an airmail stamp. Roessler's "promotional" parody was produced in 1931 and sold at that time for 50 cents. It is not considered by the author of the Linns article to be a forgery since it differs in obvious ways from the 1923 essay, and has the unique for the era die cut perforation pattern. The item occasionally shows up on eBay and seems to garner some interest, maybe selling in the $7-$10 range (don't hold me to the exact figures on this!).

There are several other cinderellas that purport to be Newfoundland airmails, one of which is a footnote in the airmail stamp section for Newfoundland in the Unitrade catalogue (Wayzata $1.00 dark blue airmail). They are, IMHO, interesting adjuncts to a Newfoundland stamp collection.

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01 Mar 2019
07:57:26pm
re: Unknown stamp

Thomas,

Thanks for the information and confirmation of my guess. I will hold onto for a while and do some further research, I will probably let it go sometime, since I do not collect Cinderellas.

Again, thanks for the help.

Mel

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26 Jul 2017
07:02:26pm

Hi! I just came across this oddity and Google is no help. Zeppelin Mail. Does anyone happen to know what this is and if it has any value. Thanks for any help. Chris of ccnddImage Not FoundT

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Benque

26 Jul 2017
07:19:32pm

re: Unknown stamp

Hi Chris,
Very interesting labels, I think they are.
This similar item sold for 110 pounds.
http://www.corbitts.com/stamp-auctions/auction147/zeppelin_mail-page1.html
Item no 364. Sorry, I couldn't get the image into this post.

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smauggie

26 Jul 2017
07:27:06pm

re: Unknown stamp

The similar item is a cachet on a cover. It sold for £110 because it had a US C13 on it, and is no use in determining the value of these stamps.

These are not US postage stamps, nor are they postage stamps from any other country. My guess is that they are cinderellas.

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26 Jul 2017
07:30:59pm

re: Unknown stamp

They are A.C. Roessler labels.
http://www.coverspecialist.com/list.html?category_id=13283

Lot 593
https://stampauctionnetwork.com/v/v64310.cfm

Don

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Benque

26 Jul 2017
07:35:02pm

re: Unknown stamp

Thanks smaugs,
The US zeppelin stamps are not in my area of expertise, which is why I didn't mention that aspect.
Chris,
That cachet item is, I believe, identical in design to your 4 items, so definitely of interest in establishing their origin.
Sorry I could not be of more help on this, but will monitor this thread to see what pops up.

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Benque

26 Jul 2017
07:37:22pm

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Good catch Don!
Those labels have a nice price on them.

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ccndd

26 Jul 2017
08:23:07pm

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Thanks guys. Great info.

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01 Mar 2019
02:42:28pm

re: Unknown stamp

Found the following in a large collection. Believe it is an A.C. Roessler Cinderella. Is there any value and is my guess correct?

Thanks for any information.

Image Not Found

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cathotel

01 Mar 2019
06:47:35pm

re: Unknown stamp

mbo1142, you have correctly identified this cinderella. Linns, May 6, 1991 replied to an inquiry about its identity and pointed out it is a parody of a rare De La Rue essay of 1923 which Newfoundland never adopted for an airmail stamp. Roessler's "promotional" parody was produced in 1931 and sold at that time for 50 cents. It is not considered by the author of the Linns article to be a forgery since it differs in obvious ways from the 1923 essay, and has the unique for the era die cut perforation pattern. The item occasionally shows up on eBay and seems to garner some interest, maybe selling in the $7-$10 range (don't hold me to the exact figures on this!).

There are several other cinderellas that purport to be Newfoundland airmails, one of which is a footnote in the airmail stamp section for Newfoundland in the Unitrade catalogue (Wayzata $1.00 dark blue airmail). They are, IMHO, interesting adjuncts to a Newfoundland stamp collection.

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01 Mar 2019
07:57:26pm

re: Unknown stamp

Thomas,

Thanks for the information and confirmation of my guess. I will hold onto for a while and do some further research, I will probably let it go sometime, since I do not collect Cinderellas.

Again, thanks for the help.

Mel

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