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Nyassa Scott #59 is described as being on salmon paper - pictured above. I have the same stamp on white paper, but there is no reference to it that I can find.
Does anyone have a SG catalog, or other, that accounts for it? This is just the kind of thing that will keep me up late at night past my bedtime. Is this possibly a fake?
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Michel lists the stamp as only being on salmon-colored paper as well.
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Your stamp on the right, at least on my monitor, shows a pinkish shade. Could it be that the paper color has been washed, faded or bleached out? We know, for example, that some color dies in paper wash out in water when soaking stamps. If your stamp does not have gum, then I would think this even more probable. At least those are my thoughts on this.
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Michael,
The stamp does not have gum, indicating a possible wash-out. But it is impressive that so much color from the paper would leach out. Probably the most likely scenario though. Interesting. Thanks for responding.
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As it turns out, I have a extra copy of the salmon 200 reis and will soak it to see if salmon washes out. 
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Exposure to sunlight will bleach out many stamps. It could also be the result of an attempt to get rid of foxing with bleach.
I had a GB stamp with a blank tablet where the denomination goes - the RPS cert came back "chemically altered",
There are lots of ways to chemically alter stamps.
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Image on the bottom is stamp prior to soaking. The salmon colored paper is quite salmony.
Image on top is the same stamp after being soaked for an hour. Most of the salmon color has gone missing. So, this salmon colored paper seems very susceptible to a bath of water.
I doubt that bleach or ammonia was the cause of the initial stamp depicted being whitened, or there would have been some slight diminuation of color brightness, or a lot. At least in the stamps I have treated this way for foxing. So I am putting my money on water.
Thanks Michael and Webpaper for the good info.
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Thanks Winedrinker for sharing your question and experiment.
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What's interesting about this stamp is that the original non-overprinted stamp was printed on white paper. There are two stamps, 100r (Scott #58; 200r Scott #59) are indicated to be on colored paper, green and salmon respectively.
Were these stamps reprinted on the colored paper, and then the "Republica" overprint added? Or, were these two stamps immersed in a die solution to color the paper, and then overprinted? Does anyone know the process how these stamps were produced?
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Your stamps are the same. It is quite common of stamps with tinted paper to very greatly in the depth of color for what ever reason. Besides the ones sighted I believe that many times it originated with the manufacturing of the paper and the tinting it recieved in the first place.
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Nyassa Scott #59 is described as being on salmon paper - pictured above. I have the same stamp on white paper, but there is no reference to it that I can find.
Does anyone have a SG catalog, or other, that accounts for it? This is just the kind of thing that will keep me up late at night past my bedtime. Is this possibly a fake?
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Michel lists the stamp as only being on salmon-colored paper as well.
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
Your stamp on the right, at least on my monitor, shows a pinkish shade. Could it be that the paper color has been washed, faded or bleached out? We know, for example, that some color dies in paper wash out in water when soaking stamps. If your stamp does not have gum, then I would think this even more probable. At least those are my thoughts on this.
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
Michael,
The stamp does not have gum, indicating a possible wash-out. But it is impressive that so much color from the paper would leach out. Probably the most likely scenario though. Interesting. Thanks for responding.
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
As it turns out, I have a extra copy of the salmon 200 reis and will soak it to see if salmon washes out.
Wine
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
Exposure to sunlight will bleach out many stamps. It could also be the result of an attempt to get rid of foxing with bleach.
I had a GB stamp with a blank tablet where the denomination goes - the RPS cert came back "chemically altered",
There are lots of ways to chemically alter stamps.
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
Image on the bottom is stamp prior to soaking. The salmon colored paper is quite salmony.
Image on top is the same stamp after being soaked for an hour. Most of the salmon color has gone missing. So, this salmon colored paper seems very susceptible to a bath of water.
I doubt that bleach or ammonia was the cause of the initial stamp depicted being whitened, or there would have been some slight diminuation of color brightness, or a lot. At least in the stamps I have treated this way for foxing. So I am putting my money on water.
Thanks Michael and Webpaper for the good info.
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
Thanks Winedrinker for sharing your question and experiment.
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
What's interesting about this stamp is that the original non-overprinted stamp was printed on white paper. There are two stamps, 100r (Scott #58; 200r Scott #59) are indicated to be on colored paper, green and salmon respectively.
Were these stamps reprinted on the colored paper, and then the "Republica" overprint added? Or, were these two stamps immersed in a die solution to color the paper, and then overprinted? Does anyone know the process how these stamps were produced?
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re: Nyassa stamp has no Scott number?!?!?
Your stamps are the same. It is quite common of stamps with tinted paper to very greatly in the depth of color for what ever reason. Besides the ones sighted I believe that many times it originated with the manufacturing of the paper and the tinting it recieved in the first place.
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