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Soundcrest
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06 Jul 2017
11:29:16am

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I have struck out trying to identify this. I have a few in different denominations. I'm not even sure of the country. Searches reveal nothing for a stamp, only for money denominated Fem Kroner.I have got to believe the design in the middle stands for something. The S reminds me of the old Singer sewing machine logo. A Google image search provided me with this:

Best guess for this image: i m retired you re not

There is some truth to that........

Any ideas?

Greg


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lemaven
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06 Jul 2017
12:37:33pm
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I came across some similar issues (not this specific one) in The Hoard and was told it is some kind of postal note used "back in the day" to send money to someone.

I can't remember the exact terminology, but I have some U.S. versions of this type of issue. I think the US ones can be found in Scotts.

Some Scandinavian countries use Kroner as a currency, but my suspicion is that this comes from Denmark.

I'm sure some actually knowledgeable folks will be able to steer you in the right direction.

Cheers, Dave.

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06 Jul 2017
02:17:46pm

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My first thought was Denmark as well. These (as well as a lot of other stamps I cannot identify) were in a stockbook of cinderellas that I purchased. More than likely the seller didn;t know what they were either

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Dakota
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06 Jul 2017
08:27:42pm
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This could also be Swedish or Norwegian. Fem translates to five in all three languages.

Although I collect Scandinavia, I have never seen these. Perhaps Jay Smith or someone from the Scandinavian Collector's Society could help.

Also, the APS has an Identification service.

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07 Jul 2017
01:24:55pm

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This may never have an answer. At Wits End

I was hoping to see if someone would have an answer.

Doug

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07 Jul 2017
02:08:29pm
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Maybe it is a type of "Green Shield Stamp", with the company initials/logo GDS/SGD? or even a local post. Could it also be savings type stamp?
Anyone tried a reverse image search?

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Ningpo
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08 Jul 2017
06:59:36am
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By the look of things, Soundcrest has already done that. I have extended that search by adding various keywords.

I have tried all manner of searches (including countries that use the Kroner) and it is quite futile; absolutely nothing is found.

I would think that this is not a form of 'Green Shield Stamp' (a type of loyalty 'refund' token given for purchases in e.g. supermarkets), as the face value of 5 Kroner is too high.

I think sheepshanks may be right; this is a savings stamp.

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Dakota
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13 Jul 2017
08:30:03am
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I went through my Barefoot book of Scandinavian Revenues. This stamp isn't shown there either. The mystery deepens.

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APS #213005

13 Jul 2017
08:56:21pm
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My first impression was Norway, for whatever that's worth.....

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APS #213005

13 Jul 2017
09:15:26pm
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Well, it looks as if there is only one in existence and Greg has it!!!


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Pogopossum

14 Jul 2017
06:04:58pm
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Could it be some kind of railway stamp?

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Sarge

14 Jul 2017
08:52:31pm
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Have you watermarked it?

How about a passport stamp?

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TuskenRaider
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15 Jul 2017
03:53:58pm
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Hi Everyone;

I noticed that this stamp has a network of lines forming geometric diamonds as a background. This is common for printed securities instruments, also know as financial instruments. Bank checks, stock certificates, and deeds of title and similar documents would be typically printed this way.

So until we get a better answer, I think sheepshanks is correct it is a type of savings stamp. Maybe a war savings stamp, or a postal savings stamp. The US had both of these at one time, if I recall correctly.

Just sortin' it out....
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15 Jul 2017
06:56:06pm
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There is a bank in Sweden with those initials

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sdsimon

16 Jul 2017
12:01:12pm
re: Stamp or Money

Danish Railway Parcel stamp.

Gribskovbanen

http://www.paperheritage.co.uk/rls/GDS.html

4th stamp in 3rd row. is a 20 kroner similar to your piece.

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TribalErnie

16 Jul 2017
12:11:38pm
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Mystery solved. Good job Scott!

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michael78651

16 Jul 2017
12:18:17pm
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Almost two weeks to solve that mystery. That must be a record to stump people!

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Ningpo
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16 Jul 2017
02:18:40pm
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Well done Scott.

It just remains to work out what the initials actually stand for. That link doesn't seem to state that, nor do the labels suggest the true name. I have found this reference to the route that was used: Hillerød - Kagerup - Gilleleje / - Tisvildeleje ( GDS) (Gribskovbanen).

It seems this was a local company that operated the branch line. It may have been amalgamated with one of the big three operators, which themselves were merged in 1945 to become Gribskovbanen.

But Wiki is all a bit fragmented and incomplete, from what I can tell.



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16 Jul 2017
03:18:50pm
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reBig Grinanish Railway Parcel stamp.

Gribskovbanen

http://www.paperheritage.co.uk/rls/GDS.html

4th stamp in 3rd row. is a 20 kroner similar to your piece.
It's actually 20 ore (cents)
also on the stamp is "Kager" which is Danish or Norweigian for "cakes"
It could have been used for food purchase on board the train as was common
"back in the day"

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TribalErnie

16 Jul 2017
03:48:10pm
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Did they have a club car where you could get drinks? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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michael78651

16 Jul 2017
04:56:43pm
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So, while looking like a stamp, it was actually a chit.

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TribalErnie

16 Jul 2017
05:07:27pm
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Pogopossum actually called it before.

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APS #213005

16 Jul 2017
06:56:55pm
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Excellent guess, Geoffrey!

And excellent digging, Scott!

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Pogopossum

16 Jul 2017
07:57:37pm
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I am so glad it has been identified - for some reason this one was driving me nuts. I'm surprised it did not come up on a reverse image search!

Geoff

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16 Jul 2017
08:22:49pm
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Thanks for solving the mystery. I have been going nuts trying to figure this out.

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sdsimon

16 Jul 2017
08:31:58pm
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GDS = Gribskovbanens Drift Selskab = Gribskov railroad operating company

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TuskenRaider
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17 Jul 2017
02:11:00am
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Wow this was a bit of fun hey?

Best read I've had for my morning coffee ever.

Thanks to everyone who posted and for all the research too.

Just sortin' things out....
TuskenRaider

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Soundcrest

06 Jul 2017
11:29:16am

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I have struck out trying to identify this. I have a few in different denominations. I'm not even sure of the country. Searches reveal nothing for a stamp, only for money denominated Fem Kroner.I have got to believe the design in the middle stands for something. The S reminds me of the old Singer sewing machine logo. A Google image search provided me with this:

Best guess for this image: i m retired you re not

There is some truth to that........

Any ideas?

Greg


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lemaven

06 Jul 2017
12:37:33pm

re: Stamp or Money

I came across some similar issues (not this specific one) in The Hoard and was told it is some kind of postal note used "back in the day" to send money to someone.

I can't remember the exact terminology, but I have some U.S. versions of this type of issue. I think the US ones can be found in Scotts.

Some Scandinavian countries use Kroner as a currency, but my suspicion is that this comes from Denmark.

I'm sure some actually knowledgeable folks will be able to steer you in the right direction.

Cheers, Dave.

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Soundcrest

06 Jul 2017
02:17:46pm

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re: Stamp or Money

My first thought was Denmark as well. These (as well as a lot of other stamps I cannot identify) were in a stockbook of cinderellas that I purchased. More than likely the seller didn;t know what they were either

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Dakota

06 Jul 2017
08:27:42pm

re: Stamp or Money

This could also be Swedish or Norwegian. Fem translates to five in all three languages.

Although I collect Scandinavia, I have never seen these. Perhaps Jay Smith or someone from the Scandinavian Collector's Society could help.

Also, the APS has an Identification service.

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d1stamper

07 Jul 2017
01:24:55pm

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This may never have an answer. At Wits End

I was hoping to see if someone would have an answer.

Doug

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sheepshanks

07 Jul 2017
02:08:29pm

re: Stamp or Money

Maybe it is a type of "Green Shield Stamp", with the company initials/logo GDS/SGD? or even a local post. Could it also be savings type stamp?
Anyone tried a reverse image search?

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Ningpo

08 Jul 2017
06:59:36am

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By the look of things, Soundcrest has already done that. I have extended that search by adding various keywords.

I have tried all manner of searches (including countries that use the Kroner) and it is quite futile; absolutely nothing is found.

I would think that this is not a form of 'Green Shield Stamp' (a type of loyalty 'refund' token given for purchases in e.g. supermarkets), as the face value of 5 Kroner is too high.

I think sheepshanks may be right; this is a savings stamp.

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Dakota

13 Jul 2017
08:30:03am

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I went through my Barefoot book of Scandinavian Revenues. This stamp isn't shown there either. The mystery deepens.

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13 Jul 2017
08:56:21pm

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My first impression was Norway, for whatever that's worth.....

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APS #213005
13 Jul 2017
09:15:26pm

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Well, it looks as if there is only one in existence and Greg has it!!!


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Pogopossum

14 Jul 2017
06:04:58pm

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Could it be some kind of railway stamp?

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Sarge

14 Jul 2017
08:52:31pm

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Have you watermarked it?

How about a passport stamp?

Jeremy

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TuskenRaider

15 Jul 2017
03:53:58pm

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Hi Everyone;

I noticed that this stamp has a network of lines forming geometric diamonds as a background. This is common for printed securities instruments, also know as financial instruments. Bank checks, stock certificates, and deeds of title and similar documents would be typically printed this way.

So until we get a better answer, I think sheepshanks is correct it is a type of savings stamp. Maybe a war savings stamp, or a postal savings stamp. The US had both of these at one time, if I recall correctly.

Just sortin' it out....
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15 Jul 2017
06:56:06pm

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There is a bank in Sweden with those initials

Richmond

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sdsimon

16 Jul 2017
12:01:12pm

re: Stamp or Money

Danish Railway Parcel stamp.

Gribskovbanen

http://www.paperheritage.co.uk/rls/GDS.html

4th stamp in 3rd row. is a 20 kroner similar to your piece.

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TribalErnie

16 Jul 2017
12:11:38pm

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Mystery solved. Good job Scott!

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michael78651

16 Jul 2017
12:18:17pm

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Almost two weeks to solve that mystery. That must be a record to stump people!

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Ningpo

16 Jul 2017
02:18:40pm

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Well done Scott.

It just remains to work out what the initials actually stand for. That link doesn't seem to state that, nor do the labels suggest the true name. I have found this reference to the route that was used: Hillerød - Kagerup - Gilleleje / - Tisvildeleje ( GDS) (Gribskovbanen).

It seems this was a local company that operated the branch line. It may have been amalgamated with one of the big three operators, which themselves were merged in 1945 to become Gribskovbanen.

But Wiki is all a bit fragmented and incomplete, from what I can tell.



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grorod

16 Jul 2017
03:18:50pm

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reBig Grinanish Railway Parcel stamp.

Gribskovbanen

http://www.paperheritage.co.uk/rls/GDS.html

4th stamp in 3rd row. is a 20 kroner similar to your piece.
It's actually 20 ore (cents)
also on the stamp is "Kager" which is Danish or Norweigian for "cakes"
It could have been used for food purchase on board the train as was common
"back in the day"

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TribalErnie

16 Jul 2017
03:48:10pm

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Did they have a club car where you could get drinks? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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michael78651

16 Jul 2017
04:56:43pm

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So, while looking like a stamp, it was actually a chit.

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TribalErnie

16 Jul 2017
05:07:27pm

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Pogopossum actually called it before.

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16 Jul 2017
06:56:55pm

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Excellent guess, Geoffrey!

And excellent digging, Scott!

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Pogopossum

16 Jul 2017
07:57:37pm

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I am so glad it has been identified - for some reason this one was driving me nuts. I'm surprised it did not come up on a reverse image search!

Geoff

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Dakota

16 Jul 2017
08:22:49pm

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Thanks for solving the mystery. I have been going nuts trying to figure this out.

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16 Jul 2017
08:31:58pm

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GDS = Gribskovbanens Drift Selskab = Gribskov railroad operating company

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TuskenRaider

17 Jul 2017
02:11:00am

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Wow this was a bit of fun hey?

Best read I've had for my morning coffee ever.

Thanks to everyone who posted and for all the research too.

Just sortin' things out....
TuskenRaider

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