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Brechinite

24 Apr 2017
07:14:16pm

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I keep getting Number 25 This has been downloaded the maximum number of times (or words to that effect)

The scans I have tried to download are from this brand spanking new laptop, so they cannot have been downloaded before!!!!!

Is it about time that this 3 times rule be removed from the Scans to somewhere else??


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Al
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24 Apr 2017
09:27:47pm
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Please explain this limitation?

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24 Apr 2017
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What are you trying to download and from where?

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24 Apr 2017
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Ian, are you actually trying to upload images to this site? If so try altering the image name. Think there is a thread somewhere here that dealt with the same problem.

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24 Apr 2017
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OK this is the link to the thread.
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=16852#127143

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
04:12:59am

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I had this problem trying to download images for auction items.

I know exactly how to get round this problem.

But why should I have to?

It screws up scan numbers and causes problems in the future. It may actually result in buyers getting the wrong stamps.

There is obviously a problem somewhere when an image is not accepted from a brand new computer. (The images have never, never ever been used before).

Changing scan numbers, re-writing different codes to scan numbers, transferring all your scans to different folders etc etc is a pain in the neck.

What is the time limit on a particular scan? Is it three months, six months, a year or two years before that scan number can be re-used?

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25 Apr 2017
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Hi Brechinite
It has nothing to do with your new computer,this is an on going problem for anyone trying to upload an image that has a title/name you have already used before.
You can delete the images on your computer but the are held in SOR ,Well the names are and that is was causes the problem ,it happens to me all the time I have to go back and rename the image ,I know it's a pain in the rear.Hypertheticaly you could keep picking a name you have used.We will soon have images with 20/30 letters in !!!!!
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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
05:07:28am

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Hi Snowy12,

When you say names, is it the code used by the computer (the code/file numbers will be different from different computers), or the actual Number like Scan004, or (004) Isle of Man, MNH, 1997 SG 567-570, cv in 2011 £3.35. i.e. the full description.

How come stamporama allowed 390 images with the same Scan nos to be downloaded from a different computer but refused several others?

How long does stamporama hold the images?

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25 Apr 2017
05:26:51am

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There was talk of changing the rules but I do not think it has happened yet. Currently my images are up to 0166 and 01-66 (66 weeks of images). Only 33 weeks left until I need to switch to Alpha named images so I hope the change happens soon. Its one thing to type numbers, another to have to mess around with letters as part of an image name. Unless of course there is some way for us to go into the images and perform our own deletes (I have 16000+ images and I don't have the time to keep displaying 30 images at a time until I get to the beginning. A simple change might be to allow the images to be sorted by date uploaded and display the oldest first)

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25 Apr 2017
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Hi Brechinite
It's the file name you give the image AFAIK.
Brian

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
06:27:19am

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The file name is entirely different from any other computer I have used.
I say again why did it accept 390 others?

I know how to get around it but it is a pain in the neck.

I know why this "lock" was put in. To stop sellers constantly putting up cheap stamps continuously, but there has to be a better way.

e.g. Put a block on any item with an auction price of less than 25 cents but still allow the 20% off on two further listings.

Mind you wise Sellers can still continuously list items by rescanning and using a different code.

Snowy12:- What do you mean by the initials AFAIK. Please spell it out for a dopey Scotsman.

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25 Apr 2017
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That would eliminate mine (and any other) penny auctions! I still think the best way is to allow sellers to delete old images easily. Still, what makes no sense to me is why this is a problem with auctions and not approvals. Every book I create uses the same logic for images. It is price followed by page number. My first page of 5 cent approvals is called 005-1 every time. Oddly enough these images don't appear in the image list in the members area. Where are they? Maybe secured so they don't accidentally get deleted? Do they get deleted when a book is deleted?

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Al
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25 Apr 2017
07:00:12am
re: Cannot Download Scans

AFAIK = As far as I know..

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
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Hi Greg,

I know that would harm your penny auctions but I was trying to stimulate thought and possible answers to the problem.
There is also a difference between the quality of your penny auctions and some of the very,very,very common stamps that are sometimes listed by others.

I assume the Approval System does not have this "Three Times Lock" in it, just the Auctions. That is why you can use the same image in Approvals time and time again.

I run up to 500/600 images for auctions then tranfer them to another folder, then start anew but change the numbers with a letter prefix. It was a lot easier to do that on my 2004 computer than this new Windows 10 Laptop. They call it progress but I have found in all areas that this "improved" system is pretty rubbish.

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25 Apr 2017
07:23:59am

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I too keep my images in folders as those that don't sell here get moved elsewhere and why reshoot everything? I use XP. I dread even upgrading to WIN7. I have a boxed machine (WIN7) in the basement should the XP die. I'd get another XP as a backup, but I am concerned my anti virus software will eventually not be updated in XP. Chrome has become a pain with XP but I am not completely won over with Firefox get. I know, off topic.

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
07:40:54am

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Aye.

I was "forced" into renewing as all the browsers do not support XP

AND

You will never believe this but " I was given 41GB/month of Broadband by BT ".

FREE OF CHARGE.

Yes FREE OF CHARGE. No monthly bills, A Years Contract with no payments after a Year and yes I have that in writing!!!!!!!!!!

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michael78651

25 Apr 2017
08:24:50am
re: Cannot Download Scans

Guys, relax... take some deep breaths... if you're in the western hemisphere take that drink of morning coffee or tea... if you're in the eastern hemisphere take a nip of some brandy... let that blood pressure calm down... that's it... now another deep breath... and another sip of whatever you're drinking... now, doesn't that feel better? The problem will be fixed as soon as our resident wizard has a moment to work his programming magic.

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25 Apr 2017
09:51:12am

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I know, he'll get to it. Ian I have fought upgrading for years for multiple reasons. I will NEVER go to WIN10. I may get a Chromebook to use when traveling. I'd consider Apple except I don't like their everything together approach that the iMac uses. The way it looks to me, if the monitor goes, you have a $1500 doorstop. A lot of other problems as well. Yes, browsers are an issue with XP.

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Tim
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25 Apr 2017
10:49:00am
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Ian, Greg, Brian et al,
Try again now. Let me know if you have any problems upload files.

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
10:53:52am

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Tim:-

It'll probably be a couple of days before I list anything new.


Micheal:- We are calm. (That third cup of coffee has dissipated and been replaced by a more soothing vodka).

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25 Apr 2017
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Tim, I never have a problem. I began creating unique image names over a year ago when I first encountered the problem with duplicate names

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28 Apr 2017
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"The way it looks to me, if the monitor goes, you have a $1500 doorstop. A lot of other problems as well. "



Here in OZ $800.00 AUD will get a new Apple computer Without a monitor or keyboard - Just hook up ANY monitor and input device of your choosing.

Maybe you should visit an apple store to see what the real options are.

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28 Apr 2017
03:13:26am

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Here it looks like they have gone away from the traditional desktop that Windows uses. Actually more people probably use laptops and such than desk tops. I like the large monitor. When I use my wifes netbook when we go away I hunch over it, take off my glasses and do my best to see a 9" screen - which is why I'll opt for a 16" chromebook to take away rather than a ordinary laptop, which is difficult to find without WIN10.

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Brechinite

29 Apr 2017
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Tim:-

I did some listing last night and everything went through OK.

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Brechinite

24 Apr 2017
07:14:16pm

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I keep getting Number 25 This has been downloaded the maximum number of times (or words to that effect)

The scans I have tried to download are from this brand spanking new laptop, so they cannot have been downloaded before!!!!!

Is it about time that this 3 times rule be removed from the Scans to somewhere else??


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24 Apr 2017
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re: Cannot Download Scans

Please explain this limitation?

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24 Apr 2017
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What are you trying to download and from where?

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24 Apr 2017
10:16:34pm

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Ian, are you actually trying to upload images to this site? If so try altering the image name. Think there is a thread somewhere here that dealt with the same problem.

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24 Apr 2017
10:18:56pm

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OK this is the link to the thread.
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=16852#127143

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
04:12:59am

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I had this problem trying to download images for auction items.

I know exactly how to get round this problem.

But why should I have to?

It screws up scan numbers and causes problems in the future. It may actually result in buyers getting the wrong stamps.

There is obviously a problem somewhere when an image is not accepted from a brand new computer. (The images have never, never ever been used before).

Changing scan numbers, re-writing different codes to scan numbers, transferring all your scans to different folders etc etc is a pain in the neck.

What is the time limit on a particular scan? Is it three months, six months, a year or two years before that scan number can be re-used?

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25 Apr 2017
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Hi Brechinite
It has nothing to do with your new computer,this is an on going problem for anyone trying to upload an image that has a title/name you have already used before.
You can delete the images on your computer but the are held in SOR ,Well the names are and that is was causes the problem ,it happens to me all the time I have to go back and rename the image ,I know it's a pain in the rear.Hypertheticaly you could keep picking a name you have used.We will soon have images with 20/30 letters in !!!!!
Brian

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
05:07:28am

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Hi Snowy12,

When you say names, is it the code used by the computer (the code/file numbers will be different from different computers), or the actual Number like Scan004, or (004) Isle of Man, MNH, 1997 SG 567-570, cv in 2011 £3.35. i.e. the full description.

How come stamporama allowed 390 images with the same Scan nos to be downloaded from a different computer but refused several others?

How long does stamporama hold the images?

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25 Apr 2017
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There was talk of changing the rules but I do not think it has happened yet. Currently my images are up to 0166 and 01-66 (66 weeks of images). Only 33 weeks left until I need to switch to Alpha named images so I hope the change happens soon. Its one thing to type numbers, another to have to mess around with letters as part of an image name. Unless of course there is some way for us to go into the images and perform our own deletes (I have 16000+ images and I don't have the time to keep displaying 30 images at a time until I get to the beginning. A simple change might be to allow the images to be sorted by date uploaded and display the oldest first)

Greg

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25 Apr 2017
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Hi Brechinite
It's the file name you give the image AFAIK.
Brian

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Brechinite

25 Apr 2017
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The file name is entirely different from any other computer I have used.
I say again why did it accept 390 others?

I know how to get around it but it is a pain in the neck.

I know why this "lock" was put in. To stop sellers constantly putting up cheap stamps continuously, but there has to be a better way.

e.g. Put a block on any item with an auction price of less than 25 cents but still allow the 20% off on two further listings.

Mind you wise Sellers can still continuously list items by rescanning and using a different code.

Snowy12:- What do you mean by the initials AFAIK. Please spell it out for a dopey Scotsman.

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25 Apr 2017
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That would eliminate mine (and any other) penny auctions! I still think the best way is to allow sellers to delete old images easily. Still, what makes no sense to me is why this is a problem with auctions and not approvals. Every book I create uses the same logic for images. It is price followed by page number. My first page of 5 cent approvals is called 005-1 every time. Oddly enough these images don't appear in the image list in the members area. Where are they? Maybe secured so they don't accidentally get deleted? Do they get deleted when a book is deleted?

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25 Apr 2017
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re: Cannot Download Scans

AFAIK = As far as I know..

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25 Apr 2017
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Hi Greg,

I know that would harm your penny auctions but I was trying to stimulate thought and possible answers to the problem.
There is also a difference between the quality of your penny auctions and some of the very,very,very common stamps that are sometimes listed by others.

I assume the Approval System does not have this "Three Times Lock" in it, just the Auctions. That is why you can use the same image in Approvals time and time again.

I run up to 500/600 images for auctions then tranfer them to another folder, then start anew but change the numbers with a letter prefix. It was a lot easier to do that on my 2004 computer than this new Windows 10 Laptop. They call it progress but I have found in all areas that this "improved" system is pretty rubbish.

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25 Apr 2017
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I too keep my images in folders as those that don't sell here get moved elsewhere and why reshoot everything? I use XP. I dread even upgrading to WIN7. I have a boxed machine (WIN7) in the basement should the XP die. I'd get another XP as a backup, but I am concerned my anti virus software will eventually not be updated in XP. Chrome has become a pain with XP but I am not completely won over with Firefox get. I know, off topic.

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25 Apr 2017
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Aye.

I was "forced" into renewing as all the browsers do not support XP

AND

You will never believe this but " I was given 41GB/month of Broadband by BT ".

FREE OF CHARGE.

Yes FREE OF CHARGE. No monthly bills, A Years Contract with no payments after a Year and yes I have that in writing!!!!!!!!!!

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25 Apr 2017
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re: Cannot Download Scans

Guys, relax... take some deep breaths... if you're in the western hemisphere take that drink of morning coffee or tea... if you're in the eastern hemisphere take a nip of some brandy... let that blood pressure calm down... that's it... now another deep breath... and another sip of whatever you're drinking... now, doesn't that feel better? The problem will be fixed as soon as our resident wizard has a moment to work his programming magic.

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25 Apr 2017
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I know, he'll get to it. Ian I have fought upgrading for years for multiple reasons. I will NEVER go to WIN10. I may get a Chromebook to use when traveling. I'd consider Apple except I don't like their everything together approach that the iMac uses. The way it looks to me, if the monitor goes, you have a $1500 doorstop. A lot of other problems as well. Yes, browsers are an issue with XP.

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25 Apr 2017
10:49:00am

re: Cannot Download Scans

Ian, Greg, Brian et al,
Try again now. Let me know if you have any problems upload files.

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25 Apr 2017
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Tim:-

It'll probably be a couple of days before I list anything new.


Micheal:- We are calm. (That third cup of coffee has dissipated and been replaced by a more soothing vodka).

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25 Apr 2017
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Tim, I never have a problem. I began creating unique image names over a year ago when I first encountered the problem with duplicate names

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28 Apr 2017
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"The way it looks to me, if the monitor goes, you have a $1500 doorstop. A lot of other problems as well. "



Here in OZ $800.00 AUD will get a new Apple computer Without a monitor or keyboard - Just hook up ANY monitor and input device of your choosing.

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28 Apr 2017
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Here it looks like they have gone away from the traditional desktop that Windows uses. Actually more people probably use laptops and such than desk tops. I like the large monitor. When I use my wifes netbook when we go away I hunch over it, take off my glasses and do my best to see a 9" screen - which is why I'll opt for a 16" chromebook to take away rather than a ordinary laptop, which is difficult to find without WIN10.

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I did some listing last night and everything went through OK.

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