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Europe/Great Britain : Plate Number or No Plate Number

 

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

19 Apr 2017
06:58:01pm
Have the following two stamps ID as Scott #31 or 32 and SG 51-53a (not sure which in either case). According to Scott, #31 is plate 1 and the plate number is not shown. Scott also says that #31 was prepared, but not issued. #32 shows plate number 3. According to Scott, #32a is plate 1 and color is lake red. Scott #31 is plate 1 and lilac rose. Scott 32 is dull rose and plate 3. The following 2 images show what I believe to be, first, Scott #31 or 32a as I cannot see a plate number and Scott #32, because I see what I believe is a 3 for the plate number. Scott and SG also talk about the lettering ie.: OP-PC for CP-PC for which I have no idea where those letters come from.

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(Scott # 31 or 32a)

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(Scott #32)

Now that I have confused everyone with my rant, is there anyone that can shed light on my problem? I suspect that I have a Scott #31a and a Scott #32 or an SG #51-53a. Reason for my suspect is that from Scott, #31 plate 1 has an unused value of $6,500 and SG has a value of 2250 - 4500 Pounds and I ain't that luckyBig Grin

Thanks for any help.

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20 Apr 2017
02:38:12am
re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

I would say you have a used Scott Great Britain 32a (top stamp).

The check letters represent the position of the stamp in the original pane. The bottom left is the row, the bottom right letter is the column.

StampoRama actually has a section mapping out the penny blacks that members have -- Stamporama Penny Page

I visited the page for the very first time, and realize there is an error in the description. The left bottom corner is the row designation, not the column designation as currently stated. I guess I will bring this to attention of one of the webmaster.

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20 Apr 2017
07:29:50am
re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

Thanks for the response. I figured the top stamp was a #32a, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a plate number someplace.

I understand the row and column letters, but that did not register with me at the time. I was trying to figure out if the wording on the stamp had been changed. i.e. something in postage or pence. Makes sense now.D'Oh

So, where my top stamp shows letters E and K, the stamp in question, normally would be C and P, but because of an error the C was changed to an O. Don't have one of those, but will keep looking.

Again thanks for the help.

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20 Apr 2017
10:42:28am
re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

"So, where my top stamp shows letters E and K, the stamp in question, normally would be C and P, but because of an error the C was changed to an O. Don't have one of those, but will keep looking."



Just to clarify, it would be "P and C", as the order does make a difference. Always used the bottom check letters.

On a normal stamp, there is a "C" in the top left and bottom right corners.

On the error stamp, there is an "O" at top left and a "C" at bottom right.
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20 Apr 2017
03:14:58pm
re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

Aha! I got it.

Thanks.

Mel

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20 Apr 2017
04:11:22pm
re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

The OP-PC error only exists on Plate 1 (don't bother if it's Plate 3), and it exists for ALL printings of Plate 1.

I found it interesting that the error was not reported in the philatelic press until 24 years after the stamp was first issued!

Hope you find one!

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
19 Apr 2017
06:58:01pm

Have the following two stamps ID as Scott #31 or 32 and SG 51-53a (not sure which in either case). According to Scott, #31 is plate 1 and the plate number is not shown. Scott also says that #31 was prepared, but not issued. #32 shows plate number 3. According to Scott, #32a is plate 1 and color is lake red. Scott #31 is plate 1 and lilac rose. Scott 32 is dull rose and plate 3. The following 2 images show what I believe to be, first, Scott #31 or 32a as I cannot see a plate number and Scott #32, because I see what I believe is a 3 for the plate number. Scott and SG also talk about the lettering ie.: OP-PC for CP-PC for which I have no idea where those letters come from.

Image Not Found

(Scott # 31 or 32a)

Image Not Found

(Scott #32)

Now that I have confused everyone with my rant, is there anyone that can shed light on my problem? I suspect that I have a Scott #31a and a Scott #32 or an SG #51-53a. Reason for my suspect is that from Scott, #31 plate 1 has an unused value of $6,500 and SG has a value of 2250 - 4500 Pounds and I ain't that luckyBig Grin

Thanks for any help.

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20 Apr 2017
02:38:12am

re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

I would say you have a used Scott Great Britain 32a (top stamp).

The check letters represent the position of the stamp in the original pane. The bottom left is the row, the bottom right letter is the column.

StampoRama actually has a section mapping out the penny blacks that members have -- Stamporama Penny Page

I visited the page for the very first time, and realize there is an error in the description. The left bottom corner is the row designation, not the column designation as currently stated. I guess I will bring this to attention of one of the webmaster.

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20 Apr 2017
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re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

Thanks for the response. I figured the top stamp was a #32a, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a plate number someplace.

I understand the row and column letters, but that did not register with me at the time. I was trying to figure out if the wording on the stamp had been changed. i.e. something in postage or pence. Makes sense now.D'Oh

So, where my top stamp shows letters E and K, the stamp in question, normally would be C and P, but because of an error the C was changed to an O. Don't have one of those, but will keep looking.

Again thanks for the help.

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20 Apr 2017
10:42:28am

re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

"So, where my top stamp shows letters E and K, the stamp in question, normally would be C and P, but because of an error the C was changed to an O. Don't have one of those, but will keep looking."



Just to clarify, it would be "P and C", as the order does make a difference. Always used the bottom check letters.

On a normal stamp, there is a "C" in the top left and bottom right corners.

On the error stamp, there is an "O" at top left and a "C" at bottom right.
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20 Apr 2017
03:14:58pm

re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

Aha! I got it.

Thanks.

Mel

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20 Apr 2017
04:11:22pm

re: Plate Number or No Plate Number

The OP-PC error only exists on Plate 1 (don't bother if it's Plate 3), and it exists for ALL printings of Plate 1.

I found it interesting that the error was not reported in the philatelic press until 24 years after the stamp was first issued!

Hope you find one!

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