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13 Mar 2017
02:29:29pm
I'm currently look at the 1876 Numerals and Scott lists Olive Yellow and then Yellow. It looks like my 3 are Yellow. Would Olive Yellow be a darker colour?
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13 Mar 2017
02:36:54pm
re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Also a question on the 1c one - my 1961 Scott catalogue only lists green and an alternate on laid paper.

My 2000 Scott lists green and emerald green.

I have what appears to be yellow green, green and emerald green. The three that look yellow green do not appear to look faded, they actually do look like yellow green ink.

Any help from other catalogues?

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13 Mar 2017
02:43:12pm
re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Hi Kelly,

Yes olive yellow is darker.

On all values, printings from 1894 use different pigments, and are darker.

Once you have sorted a few by date, the difference is usually obvious.

In the 1 cent, the earlier printings are more yellow green.

For the laid paper, you only need to look at copies dated 1893. They are scarce though, I once looked through several thousand copies and only found a handful.

Jan

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13 Mar 2017
02:59:50pm
re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Thanks Jan! It takes a lot of work to go through them with my bad eyesight but laid out I'm able to see the varieties side by side.

The ones that are "green" have a darker frame on them than the yellow green and the emerald green ones definitely stand out against the other two.

Likewise with the 2.5c - my 1961 shows only dull violet whereas my 2009 shows violet, dark violet and lilac. I have a few that are dark violet, and a few that appear to be just violet, then two that look dull or washed out but uniform in colour including the frames. The other two appear to be a light rose violet which would appear to be lilac?

Any thoughts?

Sorry to be using everyone else's brain to work through these.

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13 Mar 2017
08:11:42pm
re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

They're often times many shades for certain stamps and most likely more in other catalogues. It is of course very difficult to tell some apart. I keep any stamps that vary in color to the other ones I have. After you get several shades of a stamp you need to guess as best you can what shades they are. You are not always going to get it right but looking at color charts and visualizing variances will be most helpful. Greens and Reds are the most difficult so it is important to know the variances in each spectrum.
Note. Emerald Green is not what most people would think. It is not the deep very rich Green of the finest Emeralds but the much lighter Green very slightly Bluish of the lesser quality of Emerald gem.
If you don't know the exact catalog shade, just keep it and someday you may figure it out.
The more variants you have the better it is to decide which is which.

Everything is darker than just Yellow.

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13 Mar 2017
08:46:25pm
re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Thanks for the input. The ones I set aside as Emerald Green appear to be a Bluish Green so that appears to match your description for the Emerald Green but much richer in colour than the Yellow Green and the other Green.

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14 Mar 2017
01:27:50pm
re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Mum,
Below are the Southern Cross issues of Brazil showing many different color variants.
Emerald Green would be the last stamp in the first row.
I failed to mention that the best way to learn colors is not by charts but by looking at stamps that have only color variant. Comparing these with others will give you the best
reference point to work from. When determining stamp color you need to look at the darkest areas of the stamp. Since many stamps only have small parts where the ink is solid and using a magnifier is often required.

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A Service Dog gives a person with a disability independence. Never approach, distract or pet a working dog, especially when (s)he is in harness. Never be afraid to ask questions to the handler (parent).
13 Mar 2017
02:29:29pm

I'm currently look at the 1876 Numerals and Scott lists Olive Yellow and then Yellow. It looks like my 3 are Yellow. Would Olive Yellow be a darker colour?

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13 Mar 2017
02:36:54pm

re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Also a question on the 1c one - my 1961 Scott catalogue only lists green and an alternate on laid paper.

My 2000 Scott lists green and emerald green.

I have what appears to be yellow green, green and emerald green. The three that look yellow green do not appear to look faded, they actually do look like yellow green ink.

Any help from other catalogues?

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simothecat

13 Mar 2017
02:43:12pm

re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Hi Kelly,

Yes olive yellow is darker.

On all values, printings from 1894 use different pigments, and are darker.

Once you have sorted a few by date, the difference is usually obvious.

In the 1 cent, the earlier printings are more yellow green.

For the laid paper, you only need to look at copies dated 1893. They are scarce though, I once looked through several thousand copies and only found a handful.

Jan

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13 Mar 2017
02:59:50pm

re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Thanks Jan! It takes a lot of work to go through them with my bad eyesight but laid out I'm able to see the varieties side by side.

The ones that are "green" have a darker frame on them than the yellow green and the emerald green ones definitely stand out against the other two.

Likewise with the 2.5c - my 1961 shows only dull violet whereas my 2009 shows violet, dark violet and lilac. I have a few that are dark violet, and a few that appear to be just violet, then two that look dull or washed out but uniform in colour including the frames. The other two appear to be a light rose violet which would appear to be lilac?

Any thoughts?

Sorry to be using everyone else's brain to work through these.

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13 Mar 2017
08:11:42pm

re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

They're often times many shades for certain stamps and most likely more in other catalogues. It is of course very difficult to tell some apart. I keep any stamps that vary in color to the other ones I have. After you get several shades of a stamp you need to guess as best you can what shades they are. You are not always going to get it right but looking at color charts and visualizing variances will be most helpful. Greens and Reds are the most difficult so it is important to know the variances in each spectrum.
Note. Emerald Green is not what most people would think. It is not the deep very rich Green of the finest Emeralds but the much lighter Green very slightly Bluish of the lesser quality of Emerald gem.
If you don't know the exact catalog shade, just keep it and someday you may figure it out.
The more variants you have the better it is to decide which is which.

Everything is darker than just Yellow.

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13 Mar 2017
08:46:25pm

re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Thanks for the input. The ones I set aside as Emerald Green appear to be a Bluish Green so that appears to match your description for the Emerald Green but much richer in colour than the Yellow Green and the other Green.

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AntoniusRa

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14 Mar 2017
01:27:50pm

re: Netherlands - 1876 Numerals

Mum,
Below are the Southern Cross issues of Brazil showing many different color variants.
Emerald Green would be the last stamp in the first row.
I failed to mention that the best way to learn colors is not by charts but by looking at stamps that have only color variant. Comparing these with others will give you the best
reference point to work from. When determining stamp color you need to look at the darkest areas of the stamp. Since many stamps only have small parts where the ink is solid and using a magnifier is often required.

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