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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Collecting #1s

 

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cshahar

02 Feb 2017
06:38:35pm
I was wondering whether there are many people who focus on acquiring only the first stamp from various countries. Some of them are prohibitively expensive, but it seems like an interesting approach. Each has its own special significance just by virtue of being first issue. Any comments?

-Charles

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michael78651

02 Feb 2017
09:08:37pm
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It is a popular theme. You might be surprised at how many #1s are easy to find and light on the wallet.

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02 Feb 2017
09:26:58pm
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In many cases, the first stamp of a country is far from being the most expensive representative of that country. Classic example is Great Britain where a fairly decent looking #1 Penny Black might be acquired for $50 + us dollars if you keep your eyes open.

I have a decent#1 New South Wales - $160. And a not so decent #1 Western Australia - $70. US #1 $330, etc. And there are many countries where #1 is a pittance.

I would not say I focus on #1's, but I will certainly look into it if affordable. It's always nice to get that first position in an album filled. And at that point I start feeling bad I don't have #2. And so it goes.

Eric

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02 Feb 2017
09:34:11pm
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Charles,

I have been collecting #1's of the World for years now.

I also design my own album pages for each issue.

#1 collecting is very popular.







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michael78651

02 Feb 2017
10:33:34pm
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#1s do not normally run in the high dollars. We associate #1s with age and rarity, because in the popular countries that is true to a great extent.

Note also that there are a number of countries that do not have a #1 in Scott. In my discussions with #1 collectors, if it is not #1, they do not want it.

Here are some #1 examples less than $100 with 2017 Scott values (unused-MNH/used):

Guam $20.00/$25.00
Ryukyu Islands $2.00/$2.00
United Nations New York $0.25/$0.25
United Nations Geneva $0.25/$0.25
United Nations Vienna $0.25/$0.30
West New Guinea $0.25/$0.25
Kosovo $1.00/$0.75
Abu Dhabi $3.75/$4.00
Afghanistan used $60.00
Aguera, La $2.50/$2.60
Aitutaki $4.75/$7.00
Ajman $0.25/$0.25
Alaouites $4.00/$4.00
Alexandretta $3.50/$3.50
Algeria $0.40/$0.40
Allenstein $0.40/$1.15
Andorra (Spanish) $0.55/$0.55
Andorra (French) $1.25/$1.25
Angola $4.00/$1.75
Angra $5.00/$2.75
Anguilla $85.00/$32.50
Annam & Tonkin $47.50/$50.00
Argentina $1.50/$40.00
Armenia $2.75/$2.75
Aruba $0.40/$0.25
Ascension $7.50/$27.50
Australia $11.50/$7.50
Azerbaijan $0.40/$0.40

That takes car of the "A" countries. I did not go into the local state issues such as with Argentina and Australia. As can be seen, most of the #1s are less than $100, with almost all valued at $5.00 or less.

As Eric states, if money is an issue, one can always find inferior examples of the higher-priced #1s and use them as a space filler until a better one can be afforded.

It is an interesting challenge to find the #1s, but there are some dealers who set aside #1s for people who collect them. Sometimes they advertise in Linns.

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Tom in Exton, PA

03 Feb 2017
09:54:16am
re: Collecting #1s

Wouldn't ya know... I no sooner read this thread and then went to my email. My stamp club forwarded the newsletter from a club in Delaware and this was on the front page...

"The program for the evening was the APS
presentation “Number Ones of the World” by
Svend Yort. One of the most interesting things
we learned was that catalog number one may not
be the first stamp issued.
Scott’s typically lists stamps
in denomination order, but
the lowest denomination was
not always the first issued.
The program proceeded in
the order in which they first
issued stamps. Great Britain was
first, of course, with the famous
Penny Black and also a 2p blue
(1840). Brazil came next in 1843
with the Bullseye issues (set of 3).
Several Swiss cantons came next
and then the United States. The
program reviewed number ones
issued for the next few decades.
Although not all number ones
are rare and expensive, this was
a great chance to see some
stamps most of us have never
seen.

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cshahar

03 Feb 2017
09:56:23pm
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Wow! This is extremely informative thank you. It seems like an interesting direction to go. I had no idea that some of these #1s are so affordable!

-Charles

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05 Feb 2017
08:42:08pm
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If I were to narrow my collection to one area, I have long thought that would be No.1's

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michael78651

05 Feb 2017
10:46:45pm
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For dead countries, one could carry that one step and collect #1s and #last.

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29 Apr 2018
09:57:43am
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There are a couple of nice videos from Sandafayre showing Number One collections. Just search YouTube.

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20 Oct 2018
02:11:27pm
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And here is the other thread that I have located within the Stamporama discussions regarding the subject of collecting #1's. Looks like I need to pay YouTube a visit as well.

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Bujutsu
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21 Oct 2018
12:51:07pm
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Hi All
I chat online with a fellow in New Jersey who collects #1s of every country. He too stated that a lot of them aren't really that expensive. I bet that #2s can be more expensive Happy

Chimo

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cshahar

02 Feb 2017
06:38:35pm

I was wondering whether there are many people who focus on acquiring only the first stamp from various countries. Some of them are prohibitively expensive, but it seems like an interesting approach. Each has its own special significance just by virtue of being first issue. Any comments?

-Charles

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michael78651

02 Feb 2017
09:08:37pm

re: Collecting #1s

It is a popular theme. You might be surprised at how many #1s are easy to find and light on the wallet.

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Winedrinker

02 Feb 2017
09:26:58pm

re: Collecting #1s

In many cases, the first stamp of a country is far from being the most expensive representative of that country. Classic example is Great Britain where a fairly decent looking #1 Penny Black might be acquired for $50 + us dollars if you keep your eyes open.

I have a decent#1 New South Wales - $160. And a not so decent #1 Western Australia - $70. US #1 $330, etc. And there are many countries where #1 is a pittance.

I would not say I focus on #1's, but I will certainly look into it if affordable. It's always nice to get that first position in an album filled. And at that point I start feeling bad I don't have #2. And so it goes.

Eric

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musicman

APS #213005
02 Feb 2017
09:34:11pm

re: Collecting #1s

Charles,

I have been collecting #1's of the World for years now.

I also design my own album pages for each issue.

#1 collecting is very popular.







Randy

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michael78651

02 Feb 2017
10:33:34pm

re: Collecting #1s

#1s do not normally run in the high dollars. We associate #1s with age and rarity, because in the popular countries that is true to a great extent.

Note also that there are a number of countries that do not have a #1 in Scott. In my discussions with #1 collectors, if it is not #1, they do not want it.

Here are some #1 examples less than $100 with 2017 Scott values (unused-MNH/used):

Guam $20.00/$25.00
Ryukyu Islands $2.00/$2.00
United Nations New York $0.25/$0.25
United Nations Geneva $0.25/$0.25
United Nations Vienna $0.25/$0.30
West New Guinea $0.25/$0.25
Kosovo $1.00/$0.75
Abu Dhabi $3.75/$4.00
Afghanistan used $60.00
Aguera, La $2.50/$2.60
Aitutaki $4.75/$7.00
Ajman $0.25/$0.25
Alaouites $4.00/$4.00
Alexandretta $3.50/$3.50
Algeria $0.40/$0.40
Allenstein $0.40/$1.15
Andorra (Spanish) $0.55/$0.55
Andorra (French) $1.25/$1.25
Angola $4.00/$1.75
Angra $5.00/$2.75
Anguilla $85.00/$32.50
Annam & Tonkin $47.50/$50.00
Argentina $1.50/$40.00
Armenia $2.75/$2.75
Aruba $0.40/$0.25
Ascension $7.50/$27.50
Australia $11.50/$7.50
Azerbaijan $0.40/$0.40

That takes car of the "A" countries. I did not go into the local state issues such as with Argentina and Australia. As can be seen, most of the #1s are less than $100, with almost all valued at $5.00 or less.

As Eric states, if money is an issue, one can always find inferior examples of the higher-priced #1s and use them as a space filler until a better one can be afforded.

It is an interesting challenge to find the #1s, but there are some dealers who set aside #1s for people who collect them. Sometimes they advertise in Linns.

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Tom in Exton, PA
03 Feb 2017
09:54:16am

re: Collecting #1s

Wouldn't ya know... I no sooner read this thread and then went to my email. My stamp club forwarded the newsletter from a club in Delaware and this was on the front page...

"The program for the evening was the APS
presentation “Number Ones of the World” by
Svend Yort. One of the most interesting things
we learned was that catalog number one may not
be the first stamp issued.
Scott’s typically lists stamps
in denomination order, but
the lowest denomination was
not always the first issued.
The program proceeded in
the order in which they first
issued stamps. Great Britain was
first, of course, with the famous
Penny Black and also a 2p blue
(1840). Brazil came next in 1843
with the Bullseye issues (set of 3).
Several Swiss cantons came next
and then the United States. The
program reviewed number ones
issued for the next few decades.
Although not all number ones
are rare and expensive, this was
a great chance to see some
stamps most of us have never
seen.

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cshahar

03 Feb 2017
09:56:23pm

re: Collecting #1s

Wow! This is extremely informative thank you. It seems like an interesting direction to go. I had no idea that some of these #1s are so affordable!

-Charles

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AntoniusRa

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05 Feb 2017
08:42:08pm

re: Collecting #1s

If I were to narrow my collection to one area, I have long thought that would be No.1's

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michael78651

05 Feb 2017
10:46:45pm

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For dead countries, one could carry that one step and collect #1s and #last.

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APS# 175366
29 Apr 2018
09:57:43am

re: Collecting #1s

There are a couple of nice videos from Sandafayre showing Number One collections. Just search YouTube.

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jbaxter5256

20 Oct 2018
02:11:27pm

re: Collecting #1s

And here is the other thread that I have located within the Stamporama discussions regarding the subject of collecting #1's. Looks like I need to pay YouTube a visit as well.

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Bujutsu

21 Oct 2018
12:51:07pm

re: Collecting #1s

Hi All
I chat online with a fellow in New Jersey who collects #1s of every country. He too stated that a lot of them aren't really that expensive. I bet that #2s can be more expensive Happy

Chimo

Bujutsu

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