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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Yemen and Beyond

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popeye56
07 Jan 2017
03:11:43pm
In an ongoing effort to catalog Red Cross & Red Crescent stamp issues, I'm at the back of volume 6 of the Scott's catalog for Yemen and find little or nothing. In my 2011 set on page 1362, in the 1963 issue area, there is a note of the Red Cross Centenary set of six and a souvenir sheet. Issue notes a printing in October and given #'s 6301 to 6307. I've located some info that there are several issues noted in Michel as MK259-65, MK621-3,A MK623B Mi727 Mi52-6A MiB1.7 Mi64a,B,66-8 Mi135-7 Mi231-4 Mi248-50. Is there a place I can locate these issues and view them? The American Topical Association Check Lists are based solely from the Scott Catalogs, and are only intended to "help" a new collector in the listing they have. There last Red Cross listing was back in October of 2008.
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07 Jan 2017
03:40:07pm
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I can usually find images on the StampWorld website, such as these. It can be a very useful tool, but I often find pics to be incorrect.

https://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/North-Yemen/Postage%20stamps?type=GK&view=

I recently looked these up because I just loaded my store up with a couple hundred Red Cross/Red Crescent topic stamps over X-Mas, including some of these Yemeni ones.

http://noernbergstamps.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=redcross&x=0&y=0

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07 Jan 2017
04:28:32pm
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Quite by coincidence, I was starting to work on breaking down a Trucial States collection last night, and I just happen to accidentally discover that Scott now catalogs some Yemen. I don't know when they started, and I was surprised to see them there, because I, too, thought they were only listed in Michel.

Scott doesn't list all Yemen permutations: only Yemen, Yemen Arab Republic (both listed under "Yemen"), and People's Democratic Republic of Yemen. (Listed right behind "Yemen.") They don't, however, list the "Mukawakelite Kingdom of Yemen", which I also seem to have a lot of.

If the stamps you're looking for are the ones that Doug linked to a picture of (and I believe they are, as they were issued in Oct 1963), they are now Scott #188A-F, with a 2017 catalog value of $4.50 for the set of 6 mint and $2.60 used for the perforated issue. They also reference the imperf set of 6, and value them at $12 mint. Then they also mention a souvenir sheet of 188D-188E (the 4b & 8b values), with a catalog value of $9.

Hope that's a bit helpful!

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07 Jan 2017
04:33:38pm
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Oh wow, you're right! I just got the 2017 Volume 6 catalogue out of the library and see now what you're talking about! I have some database files to udpate!

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07 Jan 2017
04:45:12pm
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I know -- surprising, right? Perhaps Michael-numbers or someone else knows when that happened.

From the looks of the numbering, it seems more like they restored their old numbers, rather than starting from square one. (Otherwise, that Red Cross set would've had regular sequential numbers, I think, the way some other sets issued around the same time do.)

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07 Jan 2017
08:04:29pm
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It was several years ago. My guess would be around 2013, or even a few years earlier Scott added those Yemen issues to the catalog.

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07 Jan 2017
08:31:15pm
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Some of us are a little slower at figuring this stuff out :-)

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07 Jan 2017
09:15:06pm
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The original poster said he looked in his 2011 set, and items then were referenced in that peculiar way Scott "recorded" items but didn't list, by year + sequence number.

So, must've been around 2012-13.

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michael78651
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07 Jan 2017
11:23:01pm
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That's also when Scott added many stamps to many countries, such as Paraguay and Jordan. You can tell by the large number of listings where the stamps in sets are listed with major alpha suffixes.

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08 Jan 2017
01:06:01am

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From my Yemen album (many know I specialize in Middle East stamps), with Scott numbers dating quite a way back. Not a rare set, and readily available in perf and imperf format
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08 Jan 2017
02:29:03am
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Ralph, the numbers you have written on your pages is the numbering system Scott used for stamps that they were not going to list in the catalog (you can still see it in the Equatorial Guinea listings). The numbering was the two digit year of issue, and the order in which the stamps were listed in the Scott Monthly Journal. They dropped it sometime in the early 1980s, and removed most of them from the catalogs. You would need the old journals to reference them.

Now, most of those stamps have been given major catalog status as I stated in an earlier response. Bhutan and Afghanistan were other countries in that group that just now came to mind. There are more, and Scott continues to add previously non-listed stamps and sets that had never even been mentioned here and there to many country listings.

As these stamps have been added to the Scott catalogs, Steiner pages have been created for most of them. On the Sand Dune Sheikdoms, Steiner has pages for the non-Scott listed stamps as well.

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