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Europe/Other : French Andorra....Overprint authentication

 

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rrraphy
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26 Dec 2016
01:54:31pm
Still working on my last Andorra collection holes. Expensive stamps, and when you see them offered at low prices, all kind of alarm bells are set off. Especially when the stamps have overprints.

Here are 3 offered by the same dealer, on ebay. I am pretty sure that 2 of them have the o/p on top of the cancel. And the type of the o/p is a bit fuzzy and malformed, with the last letter missing the bottom bar, or barely registering it!

Does that make the third stamp (the 3F) doubtful as well..it does seem to have some of the same printing flaws, even if not on top of the cancel. An opinion please.

Would you report these to ebay?

rrr...

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as a reference, two stamp with a Calves signature (but no certificate)
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nl0547

26 Dec 2016
05:11:45pm
re: French Andorra....Overprint authentication

1. All 3 are forgeries
This is what the genuine looks like

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The 2fr & 5fr you can especially notice it in the A & the O, the short serifs on the R and essentially something with each letter

The 3fr was made by another forger, it is better but still has issues esp. the inclined D

As for anything with Calves...
it is one of the most forged expert marks
The bottom one does look quite good however.

As for reporting to eBay, without an "expert's" opinion - not worth the trouble.

As for value, forgeries of the stamp itself may have value
Overprints - none



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rrraphy
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27 Dec 2016
12:37:15am
re: French Andorra....Overprint authentication

Thanks for the info. wrote to the seller. Will see what he does
rrr...

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30 Dec 2016
01:14:59pm
re: French Andorra....Overprint authentication

Nice response from a reputable stamp dealer. We need more like him:


New message from: billschn (6,805 Green Star)
Hi: Thanks for informing me about these fakes.I have removed them from eBay and I will destroy the stamps.

Regards,
Bill Schneider

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rrraphy

Retired Consultant
26 Dec 2016
01:54:31pm

Still working on my last Andorra collection holes. Expensive stamps, and when you see them offered at low prices, all kind of alarm bells are set off. Especially when the stamps have overprints.

Here are 3 offered by the same dealer, on ebay. I am pretty sure that 2 of them have the o/p on top of the cancel. And the type of the o/p is a bit fuzzy and malformed, with the last letter missing the bottom bar, or barely registering it!

Does that make the third stamp (the 3F) doubtful as well..it does seem to have some of the same printing flaws, even if not on top of the cancel. An opinion please.

Would you report these to ebay?

rrr...

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as a reference, two stamp with a Calves signature (but no certificate)
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"E. Rutherford: All science is either physics or stamp collecting."
nl0547

26 Dec 2016
05:11:45pm

re: French Andorra....Overprint authentication

1. All 3 are forgeries
This is what the genuine looks like

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The 2fr & 5fr you can especially notice it in the A & the O, the short serifs on the R and essentially something with each letter

The 3fr was made by another forger, it is better but still has issues esp. the inclined D

As for anything with Calves...
it is one of the most forged expert marks
The bottom one does look quite good however.

As for reporting to eBay, without an "expert's" opinion - not worth the trouble.

As for value, forgeries of the stamp itself may have value
Overprints - none



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rrraphy

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27 Dec 2016
12:37:15am

re: French Andorra....Overprint authentication

Thanks for the info. wrote to the seller. Will see what he does
rrr...

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rrraphy

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30 Dec 2016
01:14:59pm

re: French Andorra....Overprint authentication

Nice response from a reputable stamp dealer. We need more like him:


New message from: billschn (6,805 Green Star)
Hi: Thanks for informing me about these fakes.I have removed them from eBay and I will destroy the stamps.

Regards,
Bill Schneider

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"E. Rutherford: All science is either physics or stamp collecting."
        

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