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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Off centering and value

 

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xxxdanimal

26 Oct 2016
11:31:54am
Hi. I am new to this site and have a lot of questions. Ill start with this stamp. I believe this is from 1861 3c Washington not sure on color variation. The stamp is way off center would this add to the value or diminish from it.Image Not Found

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26 Oct 2016
11:43:22am
re: Off centering and value

Hi xxxdDanimal and welcome,
It could be either worth more or worth less, depending upon the marketplace demand. If the collector buying prefers well centered items, then the offcenter copy would fetch less. If the collector is into EFO's(errors,freaks,oddities) then the offcenter copy with a piece of a neighboring stamp would be more preferred, and fetch a higher price.
Dan C.

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xxxdanimal

26 Oct 2016
11:58:33am
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Thanks for the info. There is so much to know about stamps. I have been trying to read up on them.

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harley14

27 Oct 2016
09:45:50am
re: Off centering and value

Just when I think I've read alot about stamps..another article pops up... I don't think this hobby will run out of reading or learning material...and this is a great site for that purposeHappy It has been very helpful at our house!!

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28 Oct 2016
02:00:02am
re: Off centering and value

" .... Just when I think I've read a lot about stamps..ano ther article pops up... ...."

I've been reading and studying articles, monographs and reference books for over fifty years about stamping, and I still find interesting information so you're in for a grist ride.
Today there are fewer magazines or stamp newspapers, but even more knowledge is available at the tips of your fingers.

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28 Oct 2016
09:06:12am
re: Off centering and value

visit ezstamp.com

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28 Oct 2016
03:26:01pm
re: Off centering and value

Whether the grossly off-center copy is worth something to a collector of oddities likely depends on how common this is for the stamp in question. For this particular stamp, I don't know for sure, but my hunch is its not worth much in that condition. Most collectors, myself included, would prefer at least VF centering.

But, research this stamp to find more information and satisfy yourself. Surely there are collectors specializing in this issue that have published their findings.

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APS member since 2004

28 Oct 2016
03:35:21pm
re: Off centering and value

Note that in the front part of the Scott catalogue, it is noted that stamps are priced in the grade of Very Fine.

David
Ottawa, Canada

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28 Oct 2016
06:44:34pm
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Good point, David G.,

and a good reminder for all of us to keep in mind when using said catalogs!






Randy

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20 Dec 2024
09:32:56am
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Can't believe an eBayer is describing this one as XF+

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This is the same stamp that I got beat out on auction last night.

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1899

20 Dec 2024
11:52:14am
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I'm a shade tree stamp collector, not an EXPERT!

As far as U. S. Revenues go, the issues vary in centering.

Most revenue stamp issued from 1862 - 1914 more of them are off center. Their are exceptions.

R120 it is estimated (not by me, but I agree) 95% are off centered.

Value is very subjected. Both dealers and buyers have their own idea of their on value.

I use the cat. value (but I use a 10 year old cat.) as a starting value, then based on my over 60 years of stamp collecting, establish what I think a stamp is worth.

XXXdanimal hope this helps you.

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20 Dec 2024
12:17:59pm
re: Off centering and value

Ernie,
I would say that stamp is Vf, I wouldn’t mind adding it to my US collection.
You lost it with a bid of $15, it’s available for $12, are you going to buy it?

Vince

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1899

20 Dec 2024
12:34:39pm
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@vinman

Too bad there is not a scan of the reverse side!

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20 Dec 2024
01:51:18pm
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Hey Vince! Not in a rush. That's one that is readily available. I really liked the copy in the Hipstamp auction. Do you collect US singles?

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20 Dec 2024
10:15:48pm
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I have a US mint and used collection. I haven’t added to it lately. Focusing on fancy cancels and postal history.

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xxxdanimal

26 Oct 2016
11:31:54am

Hi. I am new to this site and have a lot of questions. Ill start with this stamp. I believe this is from 1861 3c Washington not sure on color variation. The stamp is way off center would this add to the value or diminish from it.Image Not Found

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dani20

26 Oct 2016
11:43:22am

re: Off centering and value

Hi xxxdDanimal and welcome,
It could be either worth more or worth less, depending upon the marketplace demand. If the collector buying prefers well centered items, then the offcenter copy would fetch less. If the collector is into EFO's(errors,freaks,oddities) then the offcenter copy with a piece of a neighboring stamp would be more preferred, and fetch a higher price.
Dan C.

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xxxdanimal

26 Oct 2016
11:58:33am

re: Off centering and value

Thanks for the info. There is so much to know about stamps. I have been trying to read up on them.

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harley14

27 Oct 2016
09:45:50am

re: Off centering and value

Just when I think I've read alot about stamps..another article pops up... I don't think this hobby will run out of reading or learning material...and this is a great site for that purposeHappy It has been very helpful at our house!!

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
28 Oct 2016
02:00:02am

re: Off centering and value

" .... Just when I think I've read a lot about stamps..ano ther article pops up... ...."

I've been reading and studying articles, monographs and reference books for over fifty years about stamping, and I still find interesting information so you're in for a grist ride.
Today there are fewer magazines or stamp newspapers, but even more knowledge is available at the tips of your fingers.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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phos45

28 Oct 2016
09:06:12am

re: Off centering and value

visit ezstamp.com

ezgrader and ezstamp usa will solve your problems

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28 Oct 2016
03:26:01pm

re: Off centering and value

Whether the grossly off-center copy is worth something to a collector of oddities likely depends on how common this is for the stamp in question. For this particular stamp, I don't know for sure, but my hunch is its not worth much in that condition. Most collectors, myself included, would prefer at least VF centering.

But, research this stamp to find more information and satisfy yourself. Surely there are collectors specializing in this issue that have published their findings.

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APS member since 2004
28 Oct 2016
03:35:21pm

re: Off centering and value

Note that in the front part of the Scott catalogue, it is noted that stamps are priced in the grade of Very Fine.

David
Ottawa, Canada

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APS #213005
28 Oct 2016
06:44:34pm

re: Off centering and value

Good point, David G.,

and a good reminder for all of us to keep in mind when using said catalogs!






Randy

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APS 203949
20 Dec 2024
09:32:56am

re: Off centering and value

Can't believe an eBayer is describing this one as XF+

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This is the same stamp that I got beat out on auction last night.

Image Not Found

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1899

20 Dec 2024
11:52:14am

re: Off centering and value

I'm a shade tree stamp collector, not an EXPERT!

As far as U. S. Revenues go, the issues vary in centering.

Most revenue stamp issued from 1862 - 1914 more of them are off center. Their are exceptions.

R120 it is estimated (not by me, but I agree) 95% are off centered.

Value is very subjected. Both dealers and buyers have their own idea of their on value.

I use the cat. value (but I use a 10 year old cat.) as a starting value, then based on my over 60 years of stamp collecting, establish what I think a stamp is worth.

XXXdanimal hope this helps you.

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vinman

20 Dec 2024
12:17:59pm

re: Off centering and value

Ernie,
I would say that stamp is Vf, I wouldn’t mind adding it to my US collection.
You lost it with a bid of $15, it’s available for $12, are you going to buy it?

Vince

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1899

20 Dec 2024
12:34:39pm

re: Off centering and value

@vinman

Too bad there is not a scan of the reverse side!

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ernieinjax

APS 203949
20 Dec 2024
01:51:18pm

re: Off centering and value

Hey Vince! Not in a rush. That's one that is readily available. I really liked the copy in the Hipstamp auction. Do you collect US singles?

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vinman

20 Dec 2024
10:15:48pm

re: Off centering and value

I have a US mint and used collection. I haven’t added to it lately. Focusing on fancy cancels and postal history.

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