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General Philatelic/Identify This? : German WWII stamped envelope

 

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JGK62

23 Oct 2016
05:19:59pm
Havent had much luck finding info on the stamps from this envelope.
Not sure if it being during wartime that it may be of some value.
Any and all information would be greatly appreciated!

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In Arduis Fidelis

23 Oct 2016
07:41:25pm
re: German WWII stamped envelope

Hi JGK,

These are German Airmails.
The red one is 1934 C47 valued at 65c
The green one is 1936 C57 valued at 50c.

Although they are fairly common issues they are often sought after by collectors of Third Reich Issues and paraphernalia.

I know, there's no accounting for taste!

The most interesting thing about this cover are the postmarks. The black cancellation is a 'Railway Station' postmark. Although I can't make out the top. However the lower red cancellation is an airmail cancellation, 'German Post (Office) Europe - North America'.

Is there a back stamp?

Hope this is helpful.

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michael78651

23 Oct 2016
07:45:28pm
re: German WWII stamped envelope

They are air mail stamps from Germany (pre-World War II). They are not valuable. The Zeppelin stamp is severely damaged and worthless.

Dambrovski just beat me to the punch on this.

The railway cancel is Frankfurt.

You would not want to remove the stamps from this cover.

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24 Oct 2016
08:02:15am

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the red cancel seems to indicate it's transported by Zeppelin. if so, what makes this envelope so much less remarkable than some eagerly sought after Zeppelin covers?


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24 Oct 2016
09:16:46am
re: German WWII stamped envelope

Just a snippet of information. The cover was carried on the Zeppelin flight of June 30-July 2: Frankfurt-Lakehurst (52hr49min).

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24 Oct 2016
11:47:31am
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It's not wartime, either, is it.

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Tom in Exton, PA

24 Oct 2016
11:59:00am
re: German WWII stamped envelope

"The cover was carried on the Zeppelin flight of June 30-July 2: Frankfurt-Lakehurst (52hr49min)."



Do you know which airship?

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Stampme

24 Oct 2016
12:51:38pm
re: German WWII stamped envelope

The red handstamp with the zeppelin and aircraft portrayed does not necessarily indicate flight by zeppelin--just that the means of transport was air mail.

Often the covers will state the LZ (Airship Zeppelin--Luftshiff Zeppelin)name or number typically at the top or at the left. Or by airship -- luftschiff.

I believe the Hindenburg zeppelin was on a return flight from Lakehurst NJ to Germany for this date. The Graf Zeppelin was on a South American flight.

My guess is that the cover was carried by an airplane across the Atlantic to New York and then as indicated by a U.S. plane via airmail to its location in Pennsylvania.

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JGK62

23 Oct 2016
05:19:59pm

Havent had much luck finding info on the stamps from this envelope.
Not sure if it being during wartime that it may be of some value.
Any and all information would be greatly appreciated!

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Dambrovski

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23 Oct 2016
07:41:25pm

re: German WWII stamped envelope

Hi JGK,

These are German Airmails.
The red one is 1934 C47 valued at 65c
The green one is 1936 C57 valued at 50c.

Although they are fairly common issues they are often sought after by collectors of Third Reich Issues and paraphernalia.

I know, there's no accounting for taste!

The most interesting thing about this cover are the postmarks. The black cancellation is a 'Railway Station' postmark. Although I can't make out the top. However the lower red cancellation is an airmail cancellation, 'German Post (Office) Europe - North America'.

Is there a back stamp?

Hope this is helpful.

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michael78651

23 Oct 2016
07:45:28pm

re: German WWII stamped envelope

They are air mail stamps from Germany (pre-World War II). They are not valuable. The Zeppelin stamp is severely damaged and worthless.

Dambrovski just beat me to the punch on this.

The railway cancel is Frankfurt.

You would not want to remove the stamps from this cover.

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24 Oct 2016
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re: German WWII stamped envelope

the red cancel seems to indicate it's transported by Zeppelin. if so, what makes this envelope so much less remarkable than some eagerly sought after Zeppelin covers?


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Ningpo

24 Oct 2016
09:16:46am

re: German WWII stamped envelope

Just a snippet of information. The cover was carried on the Zeppelin flight of June 30-July 2: Frankfurt-Lakehurst (52hr49min).

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Guthrum

24 Oct 2016
11:47:31am

re: German WWII stamped envelope

It's not wartime, either, is it.

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Tom in Exton, PA
24 Oct 2016
11:59:00am

re: German WWII stamped envelope

"The cover was carried on the Zeppelin flight of June 30-July 2: Frankfurt-Lakehurst (52hr49min)."



Do you know which airship?

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Stampme

24 Oct 2016
12:51:38pm

re: German WWII stamped envelope

The red handstamp with the zeppelin and aircraft portrayed does not necessarily indicate flight by zeppelin--just that the means of transport was air mail.

Often the covers will state the LZ (Airship Zeppelin--Luftshiff Zeppelin)name or number typically at the top or at the left. Or by airship -- luftschiff.

I believe the Hindenburg zeppelin was on a return flight from Lakehurst NJ to Germany for this date. The Graf Zeppelin was on a South American flight.

My guess is that the cover was carried by an airplane across the Atlantic to New York and then as indicated by a U.S. plane via airmail to its location in Pennsylvania.

Bruce




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