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On Scott #O1-17, the background inside the emblem does not have vertical lines. Scott #O18-27 does. Scott #O37-43 is similar to #O18-27, but the stamps were printed on granite paper.
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That's very helpful Michael, thank you. Is there any help you (or others) can offer in identifying the granite paper?
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Michael,
I believe it may be the other way around. I think the #01-017 have the dots and the #018-27 have the vertical lines. I may be wrong. Also the arc of the compass projects to the left on the 01-017 and projects to the right on the 018-27, except for the #022.
If wrong, I apologize in advance.
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The granite paper stamps, #037-043 have a different WM than the others. #01-036 are watermarked Letters and Post Horn, while the #037-043 are watermarked Quatrefoil and DDR.
Other than that I have no idea about granite paper.
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I was stumped by the granite paper as well until I ran across an article (not on stamps) about that type having small black "threads" or similar artifacts in the paper, visible on the gum side.
Sure enough, when I looked through them again I found exactly that feature and realized I had miscategorized a few.
Sadly, of the hundred or so CTOs I had there were just two MNH; one of which was the version of the second issue (with compass to the right and left) with a CV of something like $250 or $500 (can't remember) that turned out to be the granite paper CV 25c version.
Dave.
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Hey, lucky me - I found a scan I had saved! You can see the threads. The expensive (non-granite) stamp in MNH is the #O22 (perhaps called "Type II").
Dave.
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I just did a Google search and found a wikipedia article on the different papers used in postage stamps. It mentions red and/or blue fibers, but also says the granite paper should have a somewhat gray appearance. I also see the compass protrusion to the left or right, so that is also helpful.
With roughly 5-600 of these to go through, it may be a long day.
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Mel is also correct (of course!) with the background dots in the first issue and lines in the second.
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OK, I'll fix my original reply. Thanks. Sorry about the mix up.
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Here's a listing of the stamps, grouped in sets, and the distinguishing features.
O1-17 - do not have vertical lines in the emblem background
O18-27 - have vertical lines in emblem background; watermarked "DDR and Posthorn"
O18, O19, O21, O22, O25 also printed on granite paper (same Scott numbers)
O22 has the compass arc pointing to the left
O22a has the compass arc pointing to the right
O37-43 - have vertical lines in emblem background; watermarked "DDR and Quatrefoil"; printed on granite paper; issued perforated 13 x 12.5
O37-40 were also issued perforated 14 (same Scott numbers)
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That looks like everything I could possibly need to know in order to properly i.d. these. I've started sorting them by denomination and distinguishing features.
Thanks much!!
WB
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According to Stamp World, these were all issued with 13 x 12-1/2 perfs and WM1. Some have quite high CV's and there are, in some cases, color variations that help, but many it does not. Is there a definitive way of identifying these?
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re: 1954-1960 DDR Official Stamps
On Scott #O1-17, the background inside the emblem does not have vertical lines. Scott #O18-27 does. Scott #O37-43 is similar to #O18-27, but the stamps were printed on granite paper.
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That's very helpful Michael, thank you. Is there any help you (or others) can offer in identifying the granite paper?
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re: 1954-1960 DDR Official Stamps
Michael,
I believe it may be the other way around. I think the #01-017 have the dots and the #018-27 have the vertical lines. I may be wrong. Also the arc of the compass projects to the left on the 01-017 and projects to the right on the 018-27, except for the #022.
If wrong, I apologize in advance.
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The granite paper stamps, #037-043 have a different WM than the others. #01-036 are watermarked Letters and Post Horn, while the #037-043 are watermarked Quatrefoil and DDR.
Other than that I have no idea about granite paper.
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I was stumped by the granite paper as well until I ran across an article (not on stamps) about that type having small black "threads" or similar artifacts in the paper, visible on the gum side.
Sure enough, when I looked through them again I found exactly that feature and realized I had miscategorized a few.
Sadly, of the hundred or so CTOs I had there were just two MNH; one of which was the version of the second issue (with compass to the right and left) with a CV of something like $250 or $500 (can't remember) that turned out to be the granite paper CV 25c version.
Dave.
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re: 1954-1960 DDR Official Stamps
Hey, lucky me - I found a scan I had saved! You can see the threads. The expensive (non-granite) stamp in MNH is the #O22 (perhaps called "Type II").
Dave.
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I just did a Google search and found a wikipedia article on the different papers used in postage stamps. It mentions red and/or blue fibers, but also says the granite paper should have a somewhat gray appearance. I also see the compass protrusion to the left or right, so that is also helpful.
With roughly 5-600 of these to go through, it may be a long day.
Thanks for the help,
WB
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Mel is also correct (of course!) with the background dots in the first issue and lines in the second.
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OK, I'll fix my original reply. Thanks. Sorry about the mix up.
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re: 1954-1960 DDR Official Stamps
Here's a listing of the stamps, grouped in sets, and the distinguishing features.
O1-17 - do not have vertical lines in the emblem background
O18-27 - have vertical lines in emblem background; watermarked "DDR and Posthorn"
O18, O19, O21, O22, O25 also printed on granite paper (same Scott numbers)
O22 has the compass arc pointing to the left
O22a has the compass arc pointing to the right
O37-43 - have vertical lines in emblem background; watermarked "DDR and Quatrefoil"; printed on granite paper; issued perforated 13 x 12.5
O37-40 were also issued perforated 14 (same Scott numbers)
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That looks like everything I could possibly need to know in order to properly i.d. these. I've started sorting them by denomination and distinguishing features.
Thanks much!!
WB
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