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My bet is that it's a cutout of postal stationery from the era.
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01:48:38pm
I agree - it's been cut from a post card. I'll check later to give you the info on it off someone doesn't beat me to it while I'm out. 
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Hi Everyone;
Whenever you have imperferate stamps with wide margins, they are postal stationary. This is because the printers never place the subjects that far apart.
The opposite can be seen in Great Britain, Victorian period stamps that are perforated. The subjects are so close together that finding a stamp where the perf holes clear of the stamp design on all four sides, commands a significant premium over Scott's pricing. This is according to a notice placed on the first page of the Scott's catalog.
Your next question should be, is this a postcard or an envelope. If the item feels more like the thickness of a stamp, then it is most likely a stamped envelope cut square. Or if the stock is thicker and stiffer it is from a postal card. It is also possible to be a stamped wrapper used for mailing newspapers or other printed matter. I have a very old Queen Victoria stamped wrapper, cut square somewhere on this forum.
By the way, if this item interests you and you want to collect postal stationary cut squares, here are the accepted standards for this.
The cut square should have a ¼" margin all the way around. If the distance from the stamp design to the edge of the envelope is too narrow, then do this; make the bottom margin as wide as the distance from the stamp to the top of envelope, and the left margin as wide as the space from the stamp to the end of the envelope. This give a nice looking stamp with equal margins and a nice tidy appearance.
Just sortin'....
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I'm not sure I'd make such a blanket rule about wide margins..... essays and SS come to mind that might confound that.
as to collecting cut squares, it all kinda depends. In the States, envelopes are sometimes collected as cut squares, while the convention is that postal cards are not.
just bein' contradictory
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Thanks everyone for there response.
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Generally over this side of the pond "cut squares" are a no-no. Collectors of postal stationery want the whole thing. The only market is postmark collectors (with complete postmark) when it is considered " on piece".
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I can't find this color of this stamp in my catalogs. I have the Scott #4525 in Red and the Scott #4604 in Red. For the live of me, I can't find when it was produced in Blue. As you can see it is also un-perforated.
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re: Is this a Russian stamp or not?
My bet is that it's a cutout of postal stationery from the era.
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01:48:38pm
re: Is this a Russian stamp or not?
I agree - it's been cut from a post card. I'll check later to give you the info on it off someone doesn't beat me to it while I'm out.
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re: Is this a Russian stamp or not?
Hi Everyone;
Whenever you have imperferate stamps with wide margins, they are postal stationary. This is because the printers never place the subjects that far apart.
The opposite can be seen in Great Britain, Victorian period stamps that are perforated. The subjects are so close together that finding a stamp where the perf holes clear of the stamp design on all four sides, commands a significant premium over Scott's pricing. This is according to a notice placed on the first page of the Scott's catalog.
Your next question should be, is this a postcard or an envelope. If the item feels more like the thickness of a stamp, then it is most likely a stamped envelope cut square. Or if the stock is thicker and stiffer it is from a postal card. It is also possible to be a stamped wrapper used for mailing newspapers or other printed matter. I have a very old Queen Victoria stamped wrapper, cut square somewhere on this forum.
By the way, if this item interests you and you want to collect postal stationary cut squares, here are the accepted standards for this.
The cut square should have a ¼" margin all the way around. If the distance from the stamp design to the edge of the envelope is too narrow, then do this; make the bottom margin as wide as the distance from the stamp to the top of envelope, and the left margin as wide as the space from the stamp to the end of the envelope. This give a nice looking stamp with equal margins and a nice tidy appearance.
Just sortin'....
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re: Is this a Russian stamp or not?
I'm not sure I'd make such a blanket rule about wide margins..... essays and SS come to mind that might confound that.
as to collecting cut squares, it all kinda depends. In the States, envelopes are sometimes collected as cut squares, while the convention is that postal cards are not.
just bein' contradictory
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re: Is this a Russian stamp or not?
Thanks everyone for there response.
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06:18:04pm
re: Is this a Russian stamp or not?
Generally over this side of the pond "cut squares" are a no-no. Collectors of postal stationery want the whole thing. The only market is postmark collectors (with complete postmark) when it is considered " on piece".
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