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Europe/Great Britain : penny red on cover

 

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TribalErnie

27 Aug 2016
02:13:22pm
Does this stamp look tied to the cover to you?


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michael78651

27 Aug 2016
02:30:22pm
re: penny red on cover

No, and for two reasons:

1 - The bottom left of the cross cancel should be on the envelope. Too much of it is missing. However, it is possible that the cancelling device could have been held with pressure to the right, thus the cancel would miss the envelope.

2 - The right side of the stamp overhangs the envelope. I would expect the right edge of the stamp to be damaged from having gone through the postal system, and from handling ever since. It appears to be completely fault free with no nicks or ceases or little tears.

Also, what is to the left of the stamp? It appears to be black blotches. The extreme left of this area shows a straight line outline at the left and bottom. Was this from a stamp that was removed or fell off the cover?

That's my opinion. I could be wrong, but I would be suspicious of this cover.

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27 Aug 2016
03:38:22pm
re: penny red on cover

i'm with Micheal...... what at first appears to be a faint continueation of the maltese cross to the left of the stamp now appears to be part of the indistinct blobs. pretty stamp, though

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27 Aug 2016
08:35:02pm
re: penny red on cover

Hi Ernie,
I agree with David and Michael, not tied.
Funny that I was looking through some of my scans last night and thought you might like this cover. It is a mourning cover so that it may appear the stamp over hangs but it doesn't, and it is tied. I picked it up for my mourning cover collection but I think it would be happier in your "EJ" collection. Send me your mailing address and I'll get it to you. No charge.
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TribalErnie

27 Aug 2016
08:43:43pm
re: penny red on cover

SPEECHLESS VINCE........I would LOVE to enjoy that cover. I'll be looking for a way to return the generosity


THANK YOU!

You are the bomb.com.

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28 Aug 2016
07:59:14am
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where in the world do we find people like this? Vinman, you astound. And couldn't go to better EJ. very nice. the kinds of transactions that make me blush to be human, so incredibly touched.

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28 Aug 2016
08:02:58am
re: penny red on cover

i couldn't find the original post, and it's not GB, but it's in the same vein. I received Richard Pauls PNCs, mint and on cover, yesterday. It was the same kind of transaction that Vinman and Ernie are doing. Richard, thank you so much.

David

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28 Aug 2016
08:25:14am
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They may be just messages on the DB, but messages like these make me proud to be an stamp collector and a member of such selected group of people, I always thought of stamp collectors as been a notch above regular people and actions like these just prove the camaraderie that exist among us. Without knowing any one personally I have a great respect for
everyone in stamporama and Vince's action just solidifies my believes.

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28 Aug 2016
09:56:38am
re: penny red on cover

I have received quite a few freebies from other members here. I like to have fun with this hobby. Just look at what David (Lemaven) does. All these contests that other members have that just are for passing on material we have but don't have a need for it in our collections. I read Ernie's posts about his penny reds and blacks. It just so happened I was looking at some of scans of my collection that I noticed the penny red and was surprised to see the initials "EJ". What are the odds. I picked up that cover because it was a foreign mourning cover, not the stamp. I still haven't organized or mounted those covers yet so I won't miss it. I was going to tease Ernie with it for awhile first but that would only be fun for me. I'm happy to help out another collector when I can.

Here is another example of the generosity of this club. Melvin (mbo1142), saw my post a few days ago of my exhibition labels and asked for my address so he could send some labels he had because he don't collect them.
Vince

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Mike

28 Aug 2016
11:55:05am
re: penny red on cover

Yes, Melvin has really done quite a lot of the giveaways over the years.
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TribalErnie

27 Aug 2016
02:13:22pm

Does this stamp look tied to the cover to you?


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michael78651

27 Aug 2016
02:30:22pm

re: penny red on cover

No, and for two reasons:

1 - The bottom left of the cross cancel should be on the envelope. Too much of it is missing. However, it is possible that the cancelling device could have been held with pressure to the right, thus the cancel would miss the envelope.

2 - The right side of the stamp overhangs the envelope. I would expect the right edge of the stamp to be damaged from having gone through the postal system, and from handling ever since. It appears to be completely fault free with no nicks or ceases or little tears.

Also, what is to the left of the stamp? It appears to be black blotches. The extreme left of this area shows a straight line outline at the left and bottom. Was this from a stamp that was removed or fell off the cover?

That's my opinion. I could be wrong, but I would be suspicious of this cover.

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27 Aug 2016
03:38:22pm

re: penny red on cover

i'm with Micheal...... what at first appears to be a faint continueation of the maltese cross to the left of the stamp now appears to be part of the indistinct blobs. pretty stamp, though

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vinman

27 Aug 2016
08:35:02pm

re: penny red on cover

Hi Ernie,
I agree with David and Michael, not tied.
Funny that I was looking through some of my scans last night and thought you might like this cover. It is a mourning cover so that it may appear the stamp over hangs but it doesn't, and it is tied. I picked it up for my mourning cover collection but I think it would be happier in your "EJ" collection. Send me your mailing address and I'll get it to you. No charge.
Vince

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TribalErnie

27 Aug 2016
08:43:43pm

re: penny red on cover

SPEECHLESS VINCE........I would LOVE to enjoy that cover. I'll be looking for a way to return the generosity


THANK YOU!

You are the bomb.com.

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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
28 Aug 2016
07:59:14am

re: penny red on cover

where in the world do we find people like this? Vinman, you astound. And couldn't go to better EJ. very nice. the kinds of transactions that make me blush to be human, so incredibly touched.

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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
28 Aug 2016
08:02:58am

re: penny red on cover

i couldn't find the original post, and it's not GB, but it's in the same vein. I received Richard Pauls PNCs, mint and on cover, yesterday. It was the same kind of transaction that Vinman and Ernie are doing. Richard, thank you so much.

David

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StampCollector

28 Aug 2016
08:25:14am

re: penny red on cover

They may be just messages on the DB, but messages like these make me proud to be an stamp collector and a member of such selected group of people, I always thought of stamp collectors as been a notch above regular people and actions like these just prove the camaraderie that exist among us. Without knowing any one personally I have a great respect for
everyone in stamporama and Vince's action just solidifies my believes.

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vinman

28 Aug 2016
09:56:38am

re: penny red on cover

I have received quite a few freebies from other members here. I like to have fun with this hobby. Just look at what David (Lemaven) does. All these contests that other members have that just are for passing on material we have but don't have a need for it in our collections. I read Ernie's posts about his penny reds and blacks. It just so happened I was looking at some of scans of my collection that I noticed the penny red and was surprised to see the initials "EJ". What are the odds. I picked up that cover because it was a foreign mourning cover, not the stamp. I still haven't organized or mounted those covers yet so I won't miss it. I was going to tease Ernie with it for awhile first but that would only be fun for me. I'm happy to help out another collector when I can.

Here is another example of the generosity of this club. Melvin (mbo1142), saw my post a few days ago of my exhibition labels and asked for my address so he could send some labels he had because he don't collect them.
Vince

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Mike
28 Aug 2016
11:55:05am

re: penny red on cover

Yes, Melvin has really done quite a lot of the giveaways over the years.
Mike

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