I believe I may have figured it out. I still need confirmation to make sure that I am correct.
According to Colnect: "Escalier sous la voûte monte plus haut que celui du Type I" Believe this translate to: Stairs under the vault rises higher than that of type I. If the "vault" is the archway entering the building, then I can count 4 and 7 steps. If this is the case I have 3 stamps misplaced
I still need someone smarter than me to confirm.
Thanks, Mel
Here is a Type I on the left and Type II on the right.
Steve,
Thanks for your response. You just confirmed what I suspected after doing further research. Now I have 3 type II in the type I spaces that I have to move to the type II spaces. Saves me from purchasing duplicate stamps.
Again thanks for your help. Will keep your scans for reference.
Regards, Mel
You can also tell the Type 1 from the Type 2 by the hatching in the cornices
The stairs alone don't tell the whole story as there is also a type 1 with 7 stairs
There are 4 varieties of Type 1 to contend with
There are other ways to distinguish between Type 1 & 2 as they were produced by different printers but I think the cornices hatching is the easiest
This whole series Mi73-100 has about 300 varieties with quite a range of CV's
For those of us who do not have a Scott catalogue, it would be interesting to see what stamp this actually is.
"For those of us who do not have a Scott catalogue, it would be interesting to see what stamp this actually is"
Sorry, my scanner has gone on the blitz since I switched to Win 10. I obtained the following from Colnect:
Mi: DEIIwg
Sn: DE 658b
yt: DE=B1Z 65(II)
Stamps issued 1948-51 and show the Holsten Gate. My album has 4 spaces for Type I and 4 Spaces for Type II. The denomination is 1 2 3 and 5 Mark.
JF0505 you have blown my mind. Thank you very much for your outstanding pictures. I now know for sure that my 1 2 and 3 mark are Type II, but at least my 5 mark is type I.
I promise I will get the scanner fixed and will post scans next time.
Thanks for all the responses.
Mel
OOPS, looks like Mr. fredcdobbs answered while I as typing.
In case any other British collectors are following this thread, the stamps referred to here are SG A132-135, under:
Germany
Allied Occupation
C. British and American Zones 1948-49
1948 (1 Sept.)-50
illustration Type A13 'Holstentor, Lubeck'.
I understand there are 2 types of Scott #658-691 having to do with the number of horizontal lines in the stairs. However, if I use the outside steps, I count 5 and if I count the steps entering the building I come up with 8. Type I should have 4 lines and Type II should have 7. Can someone please post a scan of both types so I will know what I am doing wrong.
Mel
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
I believe I may have figured it out. I still need confirmation to make sure that I am correct.
According to Colnect: "Escalier sous la voûte monte plus haut que celui du Type I" Believe this translate to: Stairs under the vault rises higher than that of type I. If the "vault" is the archway entering the building, then I can count 4 and 7 steps. If this is the case I have 3 stamps misplaced
I still need someone smarter than me to confirm.
Thanks, Mel
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
Here is a Type I on the left and Type II on the right.
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
Steve,
Thanks for your response. You just confirmed what I suspected after doing further research. Now I have 3 type II in the type I spaces that I have to move to the type II spaces. Saves me from purchasing duplicate stamps.
Again thanks for your help. Will keep your scans for reference.
Regards, Mel
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
You can also tell the Type 1 from the Type 2 by the hatching in the cornices
The stairs alone don't tell the whole story as there is also a type 1 with 7 stairs
There are 4 varieties of Type 1 to contend with
There are other ways to distinguish between Type 1 & 2 as they were produced by different printers but I think the cornices hatching is the easiest
This whole series Mi73-100 has about 300 varieties with quite a range of CV's
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
For those of us who do not have a Scott catalogue, it would be interesting to see what stamp this actually is.
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
"For those of us who do not have a Scott catalogue, it would be interesting to see what stamp this actually is"
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
Sorry, my scanner has gone on the blitz since I switched to Win 10. I obtained the following from Colnect:
Mi: DEIIwg
Sn: DE 658b
yt: DE=B1Z 65(II)
Stamps issued 1948-51 and show the Holsten Gate. My album has 4 spaces for Type I and 4 Spaces for Type II. The denomination is 1 2 3 and 5 Mark.
JF0505 you have blown my mind. Thank you very much for your outstanding pictures. I now know for sure that my 1 2 and 3 mark are Type II, but at least my 5 mark is type I.
I promise I will get the scanner fixed and will post scans next time.
Thanks for all the responses.
Mel
OOPS, looks like Mr. fredcdobbs answered while I as typing.
re: HELP on ID of German Scott #'s 658-691 Types
In case any other British collectors are following this thread, the stamps referred to here are SG A132-135, under:
Germany
Allied Occupation
C. British and American Zones 1948-49
1948 (1 Sept.)-50
illustration Type A13 'Holstentor, Lubeck'.