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Brian
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Yes, I agree. There are probably a quarter of a million lots sitting there taking up space, but to delete them one at a time would take each of us many hours and in some cases even days.
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Just prompted me total a look and see I've accumulated about 2 dozen unsold lots (had totally forgotten about them).
If we're talking programming wish lists (and the time/cost might be prohibitive) another enhancement would be to choose multiple items and a percentage of initial offering cost to relist.
Not to dig up a previous heated controversy, but would the large number of unsold lots perhaps be because of rrraphy's famous overpricing/gouging theory? If so, maybe the only rule we need is that once you hit "x" unsold lots you need to manually remove them before you can list a new one. Making punishment fit the crime.
Related to that, I (unfortunately) used StampWorld prices as a guide to listing my "Dirty (2) Dozen" mentioned above and even with a 50% reduction they went unsold (I later checked a random sample and found a few were still priced at/above CV).
When I went to relist I discovered I have to price at least 80% of initial. Is there some rationale for that? I want to offer a great deal to put these in a good home so will have to resist at 80% (to comply) then immediately reopen and edit to reduce the price further. Now that is punishment that doesn't fit the crime.
Thoughts?
Thanks, Dave.
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If when you relist an item you select put on hold instead of activate you can then go in to edit and change the price to what ever you want.
You can also change it when you go to relist you just change the price that it shows .
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Thanks for the tip Brian.
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"When I went to relist I discovered I have to price at least 80% of initial. Is there some rationale for that? I want to offer a great deal to put these in a good home so will have to resist at 80% (to comply) then immediately reopen and edit to reduce the price further."
The 20% reduction in the previous minimum opening bid price is the default for relisting an auction lot.
When you use the manual auction lot relisting function, you get the relist screen in which you can change the minimum opening bid price to anything that you want. For example, if you relist an item that previously had a minimum opening bid of $1.00, the system will show you a minimum opening bid of $0.80. That is an editable field. You can change that $0.80 to any amount lower all the way down to 1 cent if you want. You can change it to a higher amount as well (not recommended). Or, you can simply click on the submit button, and the item will be relisted at the 20% default reduction.
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If I remember correctly, during the "relist" function, you can NOT change the minimum bid up past the recommended 80%, but do have to edit to do so, unless it has been changed recently, or my memory is failing once again.
Lemaven:
""Just prompted me total a look and see I've accumulated about 2 dozen unsold lots (had totally forgotten about them).""
I only wish there were only a couple of dozen lots needed to be relisted in my files. Also we have quite a few big sellers having been here for years that would make my list look very puny, unless they delete items much more often than I do anyway. We did have a seller that would list 5,000 or so lots a week, so I can't imagine what his unsold list would look like. Actually, every item falls off of the list in 160 days, so that does help limit the amount of work needing to be done, but it is still a lot of items to be deleted.
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Mike, that is correct.
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Thanks, I mistakenly thought the 80% was mandatory not just a helpful default option.
And from my perspective, if it doesn't sell after 2 Auctions it will go in my "Big Box of The Hoard To Sell Cheap In Future".
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Hi Everyone;
You are only partly correct Mike. There are currently only 4,615 lots listed. I have tracked that total since January of 2015, and there were never more than 6,000 (Jan 27th 2015) lots, to a all time low of 3,081 (Jan 22nd 2016), and that is the total from all sellers combined.
It is very possible you are thinking of sellers that have totals of over 5,000 lots sold, but only over a period of several months. Nobody has ever listed more that 800-1,000 lots at one go. I have listed 800+ for 14 days, but I was only about the third highest volume lister on here, over a period of about from Jan 2015 thru Nov 2015.
Just stayin' cool & dry....
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Yes Tusken, you are correct, but there was a time on SOR, before you joined, that we had over 10,000 auction lots a week as an average. It happened somewhere after the time sellers were only allowed to add somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 lots per day. Quite a difference from today's auctions or approvals allow, eh?
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we did, indeed, have times where our auction totals were above 10,000 lots, but they were exceptions, not the rule, if memory serves. That was pre-approvals time. It may be that approvals siphoned some of those lots (AND added many more).
if one uses the relist software in the auction, one is forced to reduce the lot by a minimum of 20% each of three relistings. One doesn't need to reduce the price if one posts the lot anew. The limit of 4 total listings on a discrete lot holds, regardless of how one lists and relists.
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I distinctly recall a short time ago when I started scanning the lots listed on the "Close in 24 hours" page where there was a total of over 1,600 lots listed. Noting that one seller who has listed and relisted hundreds of lots that do not interest me, I put his name in the "Exclude" box and immediately the remaining lots to be closed that day dropped to about 300.
I didn't bother to see if he had more closing at a later date, but on that morning, at that time, he had at least 1,300 lots closing within 24 hours.
What that has to do with the price of hats in Panama I do not pretend to know..
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Just wondered if it would be possible to have a select box put in next to each item ( as in our mail messages ) so instead of having to delete each item individually we could select all the items that need to be deleted in one go?
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Yes, I agree. There are probably a quarter of a million lots sitting there taking up space, but to delete them one at a time would take each of us many hours and in some cases even days.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
Just prompted me total a look and see I've accumulated about 2 dozen unsold lots (had totally forgotten about them).
If we're talking programming wish lists (and the time/cost might be prohibitive) another enhancement would be to choose multiple items and a percentage of initial offering cost to relist.
Not to dig up a previous heated controversy, but would the large number of unsold lots perhaps be because of rrraphy's famous overpricing/gouging theory? If so, maybe the only rule we need is that once you hit "x" unsold lots you need to manually remove them before you can list a new one. Making punishment fit the crime.
Related to that, I (unfortunately) used StampWorld prices as a guide to listing my "Dirty (2) Dozen" mentioned above and even with a 50% reduction they went unsold (I later checked a random sample and found a few were still priced at/above CV).
When I went to relist I discovered I have to price at least 80% of initial. Is there some rationale for that? I want to offer a great deal to put these in a good home so will have to resist at 80% (to comply) then immediately reopen and edit to reduce the price further. Now that is punishment that doesn't fit the crime.
Thoughts?
Thanks, Dave.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
If when you relist an item you select put on hold instead of activate you can then go in to edit and change the price to what ever you want.
You can also change it when you go to relist you just change the price that it shows .
Brian
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
Thanks for the tip Brian.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
"When I went to relist I discovered I have to price at least 80% of initial. Is there some rationale for that? I want to offer a great deal to put these in a good home so will have to resist at 80% (to comply) then immediately reopen and edit to reduce the price further."
The 20% reduction in the previous minimum opening bid price is the default for relisting an auction lot.
When you use the manual auction lot relisting function, you get the relist screen in which you can change the minimum opening bid price to anything that you want. For example, if you relist an item that previously had a minimum opening bid of $1.00, the system will show you a minimum opening bid of $0.80. That is an editable field. You can change that $0.80 to any amount lower all the way down to 1 cent if you want. You can change it to a higher amount as well (not recommended). Or, you can simply click on the submit button, and the item will be relisted at the 20% default reduction.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
If I remember correctly, during the "relist" function, you can NOT change the minimum bid up past the recommended 80%, but do have to edit to do so, unless it has been changed recently, or my memory is failing once again.
Lemaven:
""Just prompted me total a look and see I've accumulated about 2 dozen unsold lots (had totally forgotten about them).""
I only wish there were only a couple of dozen lots needed to be relisted in my files. Also we have quite a few big sellers having been here for years that would make my list look very puny, unless they delete items much more often than I do anyway. We did have a seller that would list 5,000 or so lots a week, so I can't imagine what his unsold list would look like. Actually, every item falls off of the list in 160 days, so that does help limit the amount of work needing to be done, but it is still a lot of items to be deleted.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
Mike, that is correct.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
Thanks, I mistakenly thought the 80% was mandatory not just a helpful default option.
And from my perspective, if it doesn't sell after 2 Auctions it will go in my "Big Box of The Hoard To Sell Cheap In Future".
Thanks, Dave.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
Hi Everyone;
You are only partly correct Mike. There are currently only 4,615 lots listed. I have tracked that total since January of 2015, and there were never more than 6,000 (Jan 27th 2015) lots, to a all time low of 3,081 (Jan 22nd 2016), and that is the total from all sellers combined.
It is very possible you are thinking of sellers that have totals of over 5,000 lots sold, but only over a period of several months. Nobody has ever listed more that 800-1,000 lots at one go. I have listed 800+ for 14 days, but I was only about the third highest volume lister on here, over a period of about from Jan 2015 thru Nov 2015.
Just stayin' cool & dry....
TuskenRaider
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
Yes Tusken, you are correct, but there was a time on SOR, before you joined, that we had over 10,000 auction lots a week as an average. It happened somewhere after the time sellers were only allowed to add somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 lots per day. Quite a difference from today's auctions or approvals allow, eh?
Mike
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
we did, indeed, have times where our auction totals were above 10,000 lots, but they were exceptions, not the rule, if memory serves. That was pre-approvals time. It may be that approvals siphoned some of those lots (AND added many more).
if one uses the relist software in the auction, one is forced to reduce the lot by a minimum of 20% each of three relistings. One doesn't need to reduce the price if one posts the lot anew. The limit of 4 total listings on a discrete lot holds, regardless of how one lists and relists.
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re: Deleting items in the unsold /relist listBri
I distinctly recall a short time ago when I started scanning the lots listed on the "Close in 24 hours" page where there was a total of over 1,600 lots listed. Noting that one seller who has listed and relisted hundreds of lots that do not interest me, I put his name in the "Exclude" box and immediately the remaining lots to be closed that day dropped to about 300.
I didn't bother to see if he had more closing at a later date, but on that morning, at that time, he had at least 1,300 lots closing within 24 hours.
What that has to do with the price of hats in Panama I do not pretend to know..
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