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I am using a Scott Specially Series album. As I understand it, the Smiler Sheets basically have a "real" postage stamp, usually the same stamp over, and over, along with a personalized photo, drawing, caption next to the stamp and this attached photo, drawing, caption is the actual "Smiler" and is not a real stamp. Also, if no personal design was attached a "generic" sheet was issued.
They are listed as "Label Sheets" in SG Concise catalogue and given sheet numbers such as LS22. They are listed in Stoneham GB catalogue as "Smilers Sheets" or, "Generic Smilers Sheets", and given numbers as GSS24. I do not see them listed in Scott, at all.
Some have a "real" stamp in several different designs on the same sheet. Scott seems to give each one a number, like the Harry Potter "Coats of Arms", and shows them in the album as a set of stamps with a Smiler attached.
OK, if I am correct on the above basic information then my album should have a spot for every Smiler stamp. After all, every sheet has one "real" stamp (printed up to 20 times, as on LS40) and as many as 12 different stamps, as on LS11.
On e-Bay I came across a half "Smiler Sheet" for sale, GSS13 and LS11. There are 10 "real" stamps on this sheet and not one of them is in my Scott album.
It could be as simple as Scott made an error, but this sheet came out in 2003, or my reason for writing this - I'm missing something here.
Anyone????
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"I'm relatively new to collecting GB so please bear with me.
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Good luck and have fun with Stamps of Great Britain.
"I am using a Scott Specially Series album. As I understand it, the Smiler Sheets basically have a "real" postage stamp, usually the same stamp over, and over, along with a personalized photo, drawing, caption next to the stamp and this attached photo, drawing, caption is the actual "Smiler" and is not a real stamp. Also, if no personal design was attached a "generic" sheet was issued.
"
The term 'Smilers' derives from the first Label sheet issued for the Stamp Show 2000 at Earl's Court, London. 1st class stamps using the same design as the 1990 and 1991 'Smiles' Greetings Booklets were issued in Se-Tenant sheets and thereafter the 'Smilers' term was used for these issues. At the show, one could have there photo taken and this would be used instead of the Royal Mail 'generic' label. For each sheet from 2000 it was possible to personalize your item with a photo, logo, drawing etc. For each sheet, a generic type was issued. So 'Smilers' sheets is the correct term. Personalized or Generic.
" They are listed as "Label Sheets" in SG Concise catalogue and given sheet numbers such as LS22. They are listed in Stoneham GB catalogue as "Smilers Sheets" or, "Generic Smilers Sheets", and given numbers as GSS24. I do not see them listed in Scott, at all."
My GB Scott pages are old so I cannot check-sorry.
"Some have a "real" stamp in several different designs on the same sheet. Scott seems to give each one a number, like the Harry Potter "Coats of Arms", and shows them in the album as a set of stamps with a Smiler attached.
"
Some Smilers sheets have just one stamp design, most often 1st or 2nd class while others do have sets or part sets. 'A set of stamps with a smiler attached' is an incorrect term and actually sounds quite silly !
"OK, if I am correct on the above basic information then my album should have a spot for every Smiler stamp. After all, every sheet has one "real" stamp (printed up to 20 times, as on LS40) and as many as 12 different stamps, as on LS11.
"
I do not know your album so cannot say for sure if there should be a space or not. Many of the stamps contained within Smilers sheets are the same as the original sheet or booklet issue and should get a mention under the original issue as in Gibbons Catalogue. LS11 has 10 different designs, not 12 but the original Booklet issue had Elliptical perforations, was 14½x14 (Not 15x14) and was printed by Walsall. So some stamps found on Smilers sheets are different/unique and should be allowed for in albums as singles as well as sheets.
" On e-Bay I came across a half "Smiler Sheet" for sale, GSS13 and LS11. There are 10 "real" stamps on this sheet and not one of them is in my Scott album.
It could be as simple as Scott made an error, but this sheet came out in 2003, or my reason for writing this - I'm missing something here."
Check in your album if there are spaces for 'Greetings' stamps from Booklets. The Flowers in LS11 were issued in 1997 and the details I gave above.
I wrote a short Stamp Story about Smilers sheets some time ago. It was published in a couple of places, I think because of the little dig at Royal Mail which always goes down well with Philatelic publications. I'll post it if interested.
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Londonbus,
Thank you for the information. Very helpful.
Would love to read "Stamp Stories about Smilers". Please advise.
Terry
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I'm relatively new to collecting GB so please bear with me.
I am using a Scott Specially Series album. As I understand it, the Smiler Sheets basically have a "real" postage stamp, usually the same stamp over, and over, along with a personalized photo, drawing, caption next to the stamp and this attached photo, drawing, caption is the actual "Smiler" and is not a real stamp. Also, if no personal design was attached a "generic" sheet was issued.
They are listed as "Label Sheets" in SG Concise catalogue and given sheet numbers such as LS22. They are listed in Stoneham GB catalogue as "Smilers Sheets" or, "Generic Smilers Sheets", and given numbers as GSS24. I do not see them listed in Scott, at all.
Some have a "real" stamp in several different designs on the same sheet. Scott seems to give each one a number, like the Harry Potter "Coats of Arms", and shows them in the album as a set of stamps with a Smiler attached.
OK, if I am correct on the above basic information then my album should have a spot for every Smiler stamp. After all, every sheet has one "real" stamp (printed up to 20 times, as on LS40) and as many as 12 different stamps, as on LS11.
On e-Bay I came across a half "Smiler Sheet" for sale, GSS13 and LS11. There are 10 "real" stamps on this sheet and not one of them is in my Scott album.
It could be as simple as Scott made an error, but this sheet came out in 2003, or my reason for writing this - I'm missing something here.
Anyone????
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re: Smilers
"I'm relatively new to collecting GB so please bear with me.
"
Good luck and have fun with Stamps of Great Britain.
"I am using a Scott Specially Series album. As I understand it, the Smiler Sheets basically have a "real" postage stamp, usually the same stamp over, and over, along with a personalized photo, drawing, caption next to the stamp and this attached photo, drawing, caption is the actual "Smiler" and is not a real stamp. Also, if no personal design was attached a "generic" sheet was issued.
"
The term 'Smilers' derives from the first Label sheet issued for the Stamp Show 2000 at Earl's Court, London. 1st class stamps using the same design as the 1990 and 1991 'Smiles' Greetings Booklets were issued in Se-Tenant sheets and thereafter the 'Smilers' term was used for these issues. At the show, one could have there photo taken and this would be used instead of the Royal Mail 'generic' label. For each sheet from 2000 it was possible to personalize your item with a photo, logo, drawing etc. For each sheet, a generic type was issued. So 'Smilers' sheets is the correct term. Personalized or Generic.
" They are listed as "Label Sheets" in SG Concise catalogue and given sheet numbers such as LS22. They are listed in Stoneham GB catalogue as "Smilers Sheets" or, "Generic Smilers Sheets", and given numbers as GSS24. I do not see them listed in Scott, at all."
My GB Scott pages are old so I cannot check-sorry.
"Some have a "real" stamp in several different designs on the same sheet. Scott seems to give each one a number, like the Harry Potter "Coats of Arms", and shows them in the album as a set of stamps with a Smiler attached.
"
Some Smilers sheets have just one stamp design, most often 1st or 2nd class while others do have sets or part sets. 'A set of stamps with a smiler attached' is an incorrect term and actually sounds quite silly !
"OK, if I am correct on the above basic information then my album should have a spot for every Smiler stamp. After all, every sheet has one "real" stamp (printed up to 20 times, as on LS40) and as many as 12 different stamps, as on LS11.
"
I do not know your album so cannot say for sure if there should be a space or not. Many of the stamps contained within Smilers sheets are the same as the original sheet or booklet issue and should get a mention under the original issue as in Gibbons Catalogue. LS11 has 10 different designs, not 12 but the original Booklet issue had Elliptical perforations, was 14½x14 (Not 15x14) and was printed by Walsall. So some stamps found on Smilers sheets are different/unique and should be allowed for in albums as singles as well as sheets.
" On e-Bay I came across a half "Smiler Sheet" for sale, GSS13 and LS11. There are 10 "real" stamps on this sheet and not one of them is in my Scott album.
It could be as simple as Scott made an error, but this sheet came out in 2003, or my reason for writing this - I'm missing something here."
Check in your album if there are spaces for 'Greetings' stamps from Booklets. The Flowers in LS11 were issued in 1997 and the details I gave above.
I wrote a short Stamp Story about Smilers sheets some time ago. It was published in a couple of places, I think because of the little dig at Royal Mail which always goes down well with Philatelic publications. I'll post it if interested.
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Londonbus,
Thank you for the information. Very helpful.
Would love to read "Stamp Stories about Smilers". Please advise.
Terry
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