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United States/Stamps : help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

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ernieinjax
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19 Jun 2016
05:53:16pm
I see that the 4c Lincoln stamp is either 1036 or 1036c. I've got a bunch that are coil stamps. Is there not a seperate Scott number for the coils? Am I missing something?


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Ernie
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Cactusjack
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19 Jun 2016
06:08:42pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

Hello Ernie,

The 1958 4c Violet Lincoln coil is 1058.

Jim

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Cactusjack
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19 Jun 2016
06:11:09pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

Hello again Ernie,

I forgot to mention that there are 2 types of 1058, small holes and large holes.

Jim

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ernieinjax
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19 Jun 2016
06:23:12pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

Awesome. Now I see it. Thanks CactusJack. So how many stamps were in a sheet for 1036? And so I guess 1036c (booklet pane of 6) would be perforated on either 2 or 3 sides depending on position in the pane?

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ernieinjax
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19 Jun 2016
06:56:40pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

So I'm thinking this one is 1036c...
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and this one is 1058.
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Cactusjack
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19 Jun 2016
10:22:23pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

Hello Ernie,

The top scan is either a 1036c (wet printing) or 1036 (dry printing). In either case it is from a sheet of 100 perfed on all 4 sides. See the Scott catalog in the Liberty Series (1o30-1059A) for the definition of wet and dry printings.

The bottom scan is 1058, two perfed sides opposite each other and 2 straight edged sides opposite each other.

The booklet stamps were printed in a pane of 6 (2 stamps in 3 rows). The top 2 pairs (next to the tab) are perfed on 3 sides and straight edged on 1 side. The bottom pair is perfed on 2 adjacent sides and straight edged on 2 adjacent sides.

To the best of my knowledge there is no Scott number to designate a booklet single.

Jim

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ernieinjax
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19 Jun 2016
10:38:56pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

Thank you Jim. When you lay a bunch of these stamps out and look at them closely you can see the difference between the wet and dry printing. Tough to convey with the camera. Pretty cool.

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michael78651
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20 Jun 2016
12:25:26am
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

Scott a couple of years ago screwed up (in my opinion) the listings for the Liberty series.

The coil is not Scott #1058. The 1058 is wet printing method and only known pre-canceled. The coil stamp in the image is 1058a.

The terms wet printing and dry printing can be misleading. The "dry" printing method also used paper that was wet, but to a lesser degree (usually) than wet printing. The wet paper was necessary to get the ink to absorb into the paper. However, there is an overlap in the paper wetness with the two printing methods, and it can be difficult to tell the difference on some stamps. I used to have the specifications for the paper, but of course can't find it now.

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seanpashby
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20 Jun 2016
09:57:43pm
re: help with Scott 1036. 4c red violet Abraham Lincoln

To take all the guesswork out of this series, I opted to collect a plate number single for all of the sheet stamps. With an absolutely known reference of each, comparing the coils to the corresponding sheet stamps makes identification easy.

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