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This printing error only happens by pure chance and when seen ya grab it.
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04:13:54am
Nice item, but isn't a circular spot like that caused by a speck od dirt on
the plate and while several examples may be printed it eventually is rubbed away, which makes it (If I am correct. ) an EFO rather than a printing flaw ?
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you are both right
the "freak" is by chance and likely reflects some alien substance interferring with the application of ink to the paper
and by definition it is not an "error" in that it is not the process itself
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I think of these as a bubble of ink on the plate. As the top of the bubble touches the paper it creates a channel for ink around the bubble to soak into the paper, leaving a circle where the ink has been wicked away. Just my 2 cents.
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Gents it's a foreign body that got in-between the plate and ink and would disappear after a few had been run off sadly it's the sort of event that would never be picked up by quality control on automated presses.
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"... it's the sort of event that would never be picked up by quality control on automated presses ..."
Just a matter of money. COTS automated inspection systems can detect sub-micron (very sub-micron) defects, but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money.
Q/ When was the last time you bought a book with an inking defect?
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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01:32:13pm
" .... but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money. ...."
Yes and no, Ike.
Temporary freaks are sometimes interesting attention getters, and generally of no particular value.
But defects, such as the left band ½p, or the missing "£" on the £2,oo issue fetch a significant premium.
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the un-cut pane of 20 I can guarantee you will fetch a significant premium.
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That fault is far more impressive than the regular "ring-flaw" of dirt on the plate which usually requires close examination to see it.
I am sure that there would be a few Machin specialist who would want it in their collection.After all there are so few errors in modern printing these days -the quality control now is awesome.
Malcolm
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"... but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money ..."
"... Temporary freaks are sometimes interesting attention getters, and generally of no particular value. But defects, such as the left band ½p, or the missing "£" on the £2,oo issue fetch a significant premium ..."
Permit me to clarify:
"... but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money to the printer, eg, so as to be worth the investment to catch them in the first place ..."
Hope that helps,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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.This printing error only happens by pure chance and when seen ya grab it.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
11 Jun 2016
04:13:54am
re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
Nice item, but isn't a circular spot like that caused by a speck od dirt on
the plate and while several examples may be printed it eventually is rubbed away, which makes it (If I am correct. ) an EFO rather than a printing flaw ?
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re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
you are both right
the "freak" is by chance and likely reflects some alien substance interferring with the application of ink to the paper
and by definition it is not an "error" in that it is not the process itself
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re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
I think of these as a bubble of ink on the plate. As the top of the bubble touches the paper it creates a channel for ink around the bubble to soak into the paper, leaving a circle where the ink has been wicked away. Just my 2 cents.
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re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
Gents it's a foreign body that got in-between the plate and ink and would disappear after a few had been run off sadly it's the sort of event that would never be picked up by quality control on automated presses.
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re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
"... it's the sort of event that would never be picked up by quality control on automated presses ..."
Just a matter of money. COTS automated inspection systems can detect sub-micron (very sub-micron) defects, but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money.
Q/ When was the last time you bought a book with an inking defect?
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
11 Jun 2016
01:32:13pm
re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
" .... but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money. ...."
Yes and no, Ike.
Temporary freaks are sometimes interesting attention getters, and generally of no particular value.
But defects, such as the left band ½p, or the missing "£" on the £2,oo issue fetch a significant premium.
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re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
the un-cut pane of 20 I can guarantee you will fetch a significant premium.
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02:18:21pm
re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
That fault is far more impressive than the regular "ring-flaw" of dirt on the plate which usually requires close examination to see it.
I am sure that there would be a few Machin specialist who would want it in their collection.After all there are so few errors in modern printing these days -the quality control now is awesome.
Malcolm
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re: A Wee Beastie in the Printing
"... but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money ..."
"... Temporary freaks are sometimes interesting attention getters, and generally of no particular value. But defects, such as the left band ½p, or the missing "£" on the £2,oo issue fetch a significant premium ..."
Permit me to clarify:
"... but stamp defects aren't worth that kind of money to the printer, eg, so as to be worth the investment to catch them in the first place ..."
Hope that helps,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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