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I've had a great time working with a horde of common 4c Lincolns today. I've got a whole slew of them on piece. One of the interesting things about them is all the slogan cancels. There's a great deal of variety in the group. I was able to make out a bunch of them like "At Easter Help Crippled Children", "Fight TB" and others but some of them I can't make out. Maybe some of you have seen the following:
This one talks about a "cultural telecast"????
This one is really strange... "_____ must report their address during January". Is it talking about registering for the draft?
The following starts off with "Sales Abroad" and then it says something "at Home".
This one says something about "under the law"
This one is just neat! "Travel a New World - Visit the U.S.A."
Can someone figure any of these out? MANY THANKS!
-Ernie
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"This one is really strange... "_____ must report their address during January". Is it talking about registering for the draft?"
Aliens must report their address during January.
Seriously.
Roy
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Wow. Just wow. What a difference 50 years makes.
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I'm guessing "SALES ABROAD MAKE JOBS AT HOME".
There are single-country reference works for slogan cancels, to wit:
United States Postal Slogan Cancels by Moe Luff (19501015)
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Ireland had some really interesting slogan cancels. Like - "get your annual Xray", "teach your children to clean their teeth", "Grow more wheat", "license your radio promptly" and others. I may not have those exactly verbatim, but you get the idea.
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"Aliens must report their address during January."
I've always thought that the use of the "alien" to denote someone not a citizen but living in a particular country to be singularly unwelcoming, if not offensive. Besides, it's confusing! If someone says that an alien wants to talk to me, whatever am I to think? Should I say, "Welcome to our planet"?
Fortunately, when my wife and I came to Canada from the U.S. in 1969, were were welcomed not as aliens but as "landed immigrants". That seems more friendly, but it wasn't accurate. We didn't have any land in Canada at all! We had to rent for years!
Canada has in recent years become famous as the home of many true aliens, as in extraterrestrials. At least that's what a former Canadian Defence Minister, Paul Hellyer, believes. See this National Post article: Former Canadian defence minister claims aliens refuse to share technology....
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Alien is less offensive than "foreigner" as it is based purely on national citizenship and NOT race. And as extra-terrestials were not even on the radar when the term was first coined comparison with that concept is irrelevant. It is purely a legal definition and not intended to be in any way derogatory.
There are enough problems about racial overtones to everyday words and expressions already without inventing any more - we have recently had a referendum where "racism" concepts have been played by both sides with equal vitriol over an issue which has ( for most people) absolutely nothing to do with racism.
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As a side note, from my reading old books on mental disorders, I believe the Brits used to call Psychiatrists "Alienists".
They also apparently called (Medical) Doctors "Mister" to differentiate them from "actual" (Ph.D) Doctors.
Now, ain't that a thing!
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Philb, not sure what you mean by "line of land". Sorry. I assume that the "Landed" of "Landed Immigrant" referred originally to immigrants who had arrived — landed — by ship. The Canadian government now uses the term "Permanent Resident" instead of "Landed Immigrant".
I'd never seen the "DECLARE WAR ON ARTHRITIS" slogan cancellation. I can assure you that here in Canada we have not yet won the war, which apparently is now in its 67th year! In fact, it seems we are losing!
I've got both osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis, neither very bad. The RA was diagnosed about seven years ago. I've responded well to two drugs for RA, hydroxychloroquine and sulfasalazine. Interestingly, hydroxychloroquine, so I am told, was developed as a result of the Second World War. Soldiers who were suffering from malaria were given quinine; their doctors noticed that if their malaria patients also had rheumatoid arthritis, both their malaria and their RA improved. Subsequently, hydroxychloroquine was developed specifically for RA. Hydroxychloroquine is not without risks, one of which is sudden blindness that can become irreversible in as little as 24 hours; I have an annual vision test and probably have little risk of developing vision problems. I can't imagine what my life would be like without those drugs. Before I started taking them, every move was painful. I could hardly pick things up off the floor, and just sitting down or getting up was a bit of an ordeal. Much better now! Yesterday, my wife and I took a shopping trip, walking almost 7.6 km (about 4.5 miles). We were both very tired by the end, but we did it!
I've often thought that a topical collection of stamps about common human diseases would be interesting. I just did a search for "arthritis" on eBay and found several stamps and special cancellations.
Here's some information about Canadian slogan cancels, including re-issues of two books, which don't appear to be readily available but can probably be found:
The Handbook of Air Mail Slogan Cancels of Canada (Second Edition, Updated November 2011), 2012 by Cecil Coutts. 62 pages, 8.5X11, spiral bound, 2011. ISBN: 978-1-897391-90-7. Published by the British North America Philatelic Society (BNAPS). Stock # B4h389.3 - $C29.95
The Handbook of Air Mail Slogan Cancels of Canada was originally published in 1990. As a result of continuing work by members of the Slogan Study Group of BNAPS, a Second Edition was published in 1999 by Cecil Coutts and the late Daniel G. Rosenblat. The new update includes a separate eight page section of additions and corrections to the Second Edition, followed by the complete Second Edition reproduced from electronic scans of an original 1999 copy. Previous purchasers of the Second Edition of the Air Mail slogan catalogue can obtain a PDF file of the update by email from the author at cec.coutts@telus.net.
Slogan Postmarks of Canada, by Coutts, Cecil, 2012 reprint of the original 2007 catalogue, 328 pages, 8.5 X 11, spiral bound, 2011. ISBN: 978-0-9680225-2-8. Published by the British North America Philatelic Society (BNAPS). Stock # B4h051 - $C52.95
Beginning in 1987, research by the Slogan Study Group of the British North America Philatelic Society Ltd. was based on official post office documentation and proof impressions that certainly gave the work credibility. The efforts of this Group culminated in the release in 1996 of the first edition of Slogan Postmarks of Canada, a compilation of all slogan cancellation including those relating to air mail. This was followed by Supplement Number One in 1999 and the Second Edition in 2002. The Third Edition, published in 2007, went out of print without fully satisfying demand, leading to this BNAPS reprint which includes among the listings 165 post-2007 updates of specific slogan cancellations. Previous purchasers of the 2007 Third Edition of the full Slogan catalogue can obtain a PDF file containing the post-2007 updates by email from the author at cec.coutts@telus.net.
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"They also apparently called (Medical) Doctors "Mister" to differentiate them from "actual" (Ph.D) Doctors."
This is a little distorted. Medical doctors are addressed as Doctor, surgeons on the other hand are addressed as Mister.
Until the mid 19th century, only doctors had to study for a degree in medicine. Trainee surgeons, only had to obtain a diploma after serving as an apprentice under a surgeon. Consequently, as surgeons had no right to call themselves Doctor (they had no doctorate), they had to be called Mister.
All of course has changed. Surgeons have to obtain a medical doctorate first, before qualifying as a surgeon. Yet, in order to distinguish themselves from doctors, they have chosen to be addressed as Mister.
Thus the tradition of a surgeon being referred to as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs has continued, meaning that in effect a person starts as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs, becomes a Doctor and then goes back to being a Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs again!
Sorry for the distraction from the purpose of this thread.
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Here's another one that is not as "politically correct" today:
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no problems on deviations...i do it all the time ! Bob, in my case they call it polyarthritis...seems like every 2 1/2 or 3 years it hits...the VA puts me on a low dosage of prednazone for a couple of months and that knocks it out..til next time.Sorry about the joking on landed immigrant ! I found someone who can take a joke.
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In this case, Philb, I'm afraid I didn't get the joke! 
But I bet it was funny!
I hadn't heard of polyarthritis, which isn't surprising. My rheumatologist tells me that there are more than 200 types, and that they aren't always easily diagnosed.
Several years ago I developed polymyalgia rheumatica, "polymyalgia" meaning "pain in many muscles". That's an understatement! Before it was diagnosed, pain on movement was so bad that I could hardly move. It's diagnosed with a simple blood test checking the erythrocyte sedimentation rate, an indicator of inflammation, and mine was right off the scale. Right away (it was about 11 a.m.) I was given 50mg of prednisone and by 4 p.m. I was symptom free. Wonderful stuff, prednisone. Horrible stuff, prednisone. It took me almost two years to wean myself off it, and it left me with thin nails and skin that is so easily bruised that I can't stand a brush-off from a good looking woman. Oh, wait, that's my ego that gets bruised!
I think I'm lucky to have avoided serious vision problems. I mentioned in my earlier post that the hydroxychloroquine that I take can cause blindness. Polymyalgia rheumatica often comes with temporal arteritis, inflammation of the temporal nerve that can also blindness, and very quickly.
Back to slogan cancellations: I have an largish collection of wartime Canadian slogan cancels on cover (and some on piece), as well as a similar collection of the wartime slogan cancellations of Great Britain. They mostly deal with conservation and recycling. Here are two of my Canadian items, a twice-used war-economy window envelope franked with a Scott O254 "Small O.H.M.S." stamp, and a postcard, Scott #UX77.
My Canada specialized catalogue lists three types of the post card, Type 1 ( "No inscription"), Type 5 ("Straight Line 'CANADA POST CARD' top centre of card"), and Type 7 ("Bilingual 'CANADA/POST CARD' top centre"). I guess that Type 7 comes closest, but that's not the way I would describe it. In fact, the catalogue includes French in its descriptions of other bilingual post card types. Perhaps we have a Canada specialist who can comment?
The "SAVE FAT FOR EXPLOSIVES" slogan cancellation certainly makes no bones about the fact that Canadian housewives could help to blow up Germans and Germany. In this context, the return address for the second usage of the cover is interesting — "Marketing Service/Union Stockyards/Toronto 9". Canada was perhaps following Britain's lead: A 1940 British slogan cancellation urges Brits to "SAVE WASTE PAPER/METALS/BONES/RAGS". Both fat and bones contained glycerin, used in the manufacture of explosives.
It's interesting to note that while Canada did not apparently suffer a shortage of coal during the war, someone felt it necessary to encourage people to save it by designing the "CONSERVE COAL/CONSERVEZ LE CHARBON" slogan cancellation. Curiously, although coal shortages were common in Great Britain, there are no British "CONSERVE COAL" slogan cancellations. I've wondered if that was a political decision:
When war was declared on Germany, coal miners quit in droves to volunteer for the military. I'm sure they figured that the working conditions and pay made enlistment worthwhile. With the coal mines basically emptying of miners, the government ordered soldiers to work in the mines, and there followed many strikes for better pay and working conditions. Perhaps the government thought that a "CONSERVE COAL" slogan cancellation would anger miners, who may have perceived that their jobs would be threatened? I would certainly like to learn more about that aspect of the war.
Bob
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"... although coal shortages were common in Great Britain, there are no British "CONSERVE COAL" slogan cancellations ..."
It could be a question of bandwidth, eg, perhaps the campaigns for scrap steel (people gave their staircase banisters & garden fences) and lead (children gave their toy soldiers) were considered more critical.
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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Bob,
You may already be aware of this site, nonetheless it may useful to others:
Postal History Corner; wartime slogans
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speaking of slogan cancels, I noticed one listed in the current auction selection, that's been there since Saturday.
" DIPHTHERIA KILLS cancel "
not intended as self promotion, just informational only.
Mike
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@Ningpo: Thank you for the Postal History Corner link, where I spotted this interesting cover...
which is a version in green of this cover in my collection:
Halliday Hamilton was a manufacturer of prefab homes. I haven't taken the time to do any serious research, but my guess is that their business really took off during the Second World War, when housing was at a premium all across Canada. Archive.org offers a Halliday Hamilton catalogue published in 1942. Prices start at $852 for delivery within 100 miles of Hamilton, Ontario.
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Obviously, I have too many covers! After I'd posted the image of the other one in my collection I found this Hallidays Hamilton cover, with a different cachet, printed in dark blue (almost purple), and with quite a clear "V ••• —" cancellation, and franked with a 2-cent stamp rather than 4-stamps like the others. Is the 2-cent rate must be the local "drop letter" rate? (I wonder if the covers enclosed copies of the Simplex System catalogue.)
Bob
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My Father was a mineworker in the UK prior to WW2. However as a surface worker his was not a reserved occupation - despite being a key safety worker. His call up was deferred until 1941 - so presumably there was some arrangement that certain key workers went to the bottom of the queue.
My Mother ( who was single at the time), was however conscripted into essential war work. While some women went into the forces,some into munitions factories and some onto the land to release men for the forces, my Mother worked on the buses ( in UK speak conductor or guard ) -on the back collecting fares. There were a few women drivers, but in the days of manual gearboxes and non-power steering, not many were considered to be physically strong enough.There were many female Railway station workers,signalmen,locomotive and rolling stock cleaners. Some women even delivered aircraft ( including Spitfires ) from factories and repair works to airfields.
It is true that many underground workers in the mines volunteered for military service, and some of these were replaced by "conscientious objectors" such as Jehovah's Witnesses and Quakers(unlike in Germany where they were put in concentration camps).
Malcolm
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The woollen rags were shredded,the wool blended with new wool and turned into "shoddy" (using knitted wool) or "Mungo" (using wool cloth). These cloths were then turned into battledress uniforms for the armed forces.
My home town, Dewsbury in the West Riding of Yorkshire, was the worlds largest centre for the production of shoddy and mungo (in fact the process was invented in the next door town of Batley ). In fact reclaimed wool is still used there, but now it is turned into manure(the mind boggles !). And we think that recycling is something new.
It is difficult to imagine today how the concept of "total war" crept into absolutely every part and detail of people's lives - when every person, product and company was harnessed for the war effort. Even children used to collect Rose Hips to make medicine.
Malcolm
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Speaking of the war effort, Chislehurst Caves made it into The Paper:
An All-Purpose Maze Deep Beneath a London Suburb
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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i kill a good part of two days at Orapex going through my favorite wholesale dealers stamps and covers. .There were many hundreds of covers similar to these..if i were looking for a new topic like Canadian slogan cancels i could have built it right on the spot !
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I've had a great time working with a horde of common 4c Lincolns today. I've got a whole slew of them on piece. One of the interesting things about them is all the slogan cancels. There's a great deal of variety in the group. I was able to make out a bunch of them like "At Easter Help Crippled Children", "Fight TB" and others but some of them I can't make out. Maybe some of you have seen the following:
This one talks about a "cultural telecast"????
This one is really strange... "_____ must report their address during January". Is it talking about registering for the draft?
The following starts off with "Sales Abroad" and then it says something "at Home".
This one says something about "under the law"
This one is just neat! "Travel a New World - Visit the U.S.A."
Can someone figure any of these out? MANY THANKS!
-Ernie
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"This one is really strange... "_____ must report their address during January". Is it talking about registering for the draft?"
Aliens must report their address during January.
Seriously.
Roy
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Wow. Just wow. What a difference 50 years makes.
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I'm guessing "SALES ABROAD MAKE JOBS AT HOME".
There are single-country reference works for slogan cancels, to wit:
United States Postal Slogan Cancels by Moe Luff (19501015)
Cheers,
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Ireland had some really interesting slogan cancels. Like - "get your annual Xray", "teach your children to clean their teeth", "Grow more wheat", "license your radio promptly" and others. I may not have those exactly verbatim, but you get the idea.
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Roy wrote,
"Aliens must report their address during January."
I've always thought that the use of the "alien" to denote someone not a citizen but living in a particular country to be singularly unwelcoming, if not offensive. Besides, it's confusing! If someone says that an alien wants to talk to me, whatever am I to think? Should I say, "Welcome to our planet"?
Fortunately, when my wife and I came to Canada from the U.S. in 1969, were were welcomed not as aliens but as "landed immigrants". That seems more friendly, but it wasn't accurate. We didn't have any land in Canada at all! We had to rent for years!
Canada has in recent years become famous as the home of many true aliens, as in extraterrestrials. At least that's what a former Canadian Defence Minister, Paul Hellyer, believes. See this National Post article: Former Canadian defence minister claims aliens refuse to share technology....
Bob
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Alien is less offensive than "foreigner" as it is based purely on national citizenship and NOT race. And as extra-terrestials were not even on the radar when the term was first coined comparison with that concept is irrelevant. It is purely a legal definition and not intended to be in any way derogatory.
There are enough problems about racial overtones to everyday words and expressions already without inventing any more - we have recently had a referendum where "racism" concepts have been played by both sides with equal vitriol over an issue which has ( for most people) absolutely nothing to do with racism.
Malcolm
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As a side note, from my reading old books on mental disorders, I believe the Brits used to call Psychiatrists "Alienists".
They also apparently called (Medical) Doctors "Mister" to differentiate them from "actual" (Ph.D) Doctors.
Now, ain't that a thing!
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Philb, not sure what you mean by "line of land". Sorry. I assume that the "Landed" of "Landed Immigrant" referred originally to immigrants who had arrived — landed — by ship. The Canadian government now uses the term "Permanent Resident" instead of "Landed Immigrant".
I'd never seen the "DECLARE WAR ON ARTHRITIS" slogan cancellation. I can assure you that here in Canada we have not yet won the war, which apparently is now in its 67th year! In fact, it seems we are losing!
I've got both osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis, neither very bad. The RA was diagnosed about seven years ago. I've responded well to two drugs for RA, hydroxychloroquine and sulfasalazine. Interestingly, hydroxychloroquine, so I am told, was developed as a result of the Second World War. Soldiers who were suffering from malaria were given quinine; their doctors noticed that if their malaria patients also had rheumatoid arthritis, both their malaria and their RA improved. Subsequently, hydroxychloroquine was developed specifically for RA. Hydroxychloroquine is not without risks, one of which is sudden blindness that can become irreversible in as little as 24 hours; I have an annual vision test and probably have little risk of developing vision problems. I can't imagine what my life would be like without those drugs. Before I started taking them, every move was painful. I could hardly pick things up off the floor, and just sitting down or getting up was a bit of an ordeal. Much better now! Yesterday, my wife and I took a shopping trip, walking almost 7.6 km (about 4.5 miles). We were both very tired by the end, but we did it!
I've often thought that a topical collection of stamps about common human diseases would be interesting. I just did a search for "arthritis" on eBay and found several stamps and special cancellations.
Here's some information about Canadian slogan cancels, including re-issues of two books, which don't appear to be readily available but can probably be found:
The Handbook of Air Mail Slogan Cancels of Canada (Second Edition, Updated November 2011), 2012 by Cecil Coutts. 62 pages, 8.5X11, spiral bound, 2011. ISBN: 978-1-897391-90-7. Published by the British North America Philatelic Society (BNAPS). Stock # B4h389.3 - $C29.95
The Handbook of Air Mail Slogan Cancels of Canada was originally published in 1990. As a result of continuing work by members of the Slogan Study Group of BNAPS, a Second Edition was published in 1999 by Cecil Coutts and the late Daniel G. Rosenblat. The new update includes a separate eight page section of additions and corrections to the Second Edition, followed by the complete Second Edition reproduced from electronic scans of an original 1999 copy. Previous purchasers of the Second Edition of the Air Mail slogan catalogue can obtain a PDF file of the update by email from the author at cec.coutts@telus.net.
Slogan Postmarks of Canada, by Coutts, Cecil, 2012 reprint of the original 2007 catalogue, 328 pages, 8.5 X 11, spiral bound, 2011. ISBN: 978-0-9680225-2-8. Published by the British North America Philatelic Society (BNAPS). Stock # B4h051 - $C52.95
Beginning in 1987, research by the Slogan Study Group of the British North America Philatelic Society Ltd. was based on official post office documentation and proof impressions that certainly gave the work credibility. The efforts of this Group culminated in the release in 1996 of the first edition of Slogan Postmarks of Canada, a compilation of all slogan cancellation including those relating to air mail. This was followed by Supplement Number One in 1999 and the Second Edition in 2002. The Third Edition, published in 2007, went out of print without fully satisfying demand, leading to this BNAPS reprint which includes among the listings 165 post-2007 updates of specific slogan cancellations. Previous purchasers of the 2007 Third Edition of the full Slogan catalogue can obtain a PDF file containing the post-2007 updates by email from the author at cec.coutts@telus.net.
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"They also apparently called (Medical) Doctors "Mister" to differentiate them from "actual" (Ph.D) Doctors."
This is a little distorted. Medical doctors are addressed as Doctor, surgeons on the other hand are addressed as Mister.
Until the mid 19th century, only doctors had to study for a degree in medicine. Trainee surgeons, only had to obtain a diploma after serving as an apprentice under a surgeon. Consequently, as surgeons had no right to call themselves Doctor (they had no doctorate), they had to be called Mister.
All of course has changed. Surgeons have to obtain a medical doctorate first, before qualifying as a surgeon. Yet, in order to distinguish themselves from doctors, they have chosen to be addressed as Mister.
Thus the tradition of a surgeon being referred to as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs has continued, meaning that in effect a person starts as Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs, becomes a Doctor and then goes back to being a Mr/Miss/Ms/Mrs again!
Sorry for the distraction from the purpose of this thread.
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no problems on deviations...i do it all the time ! Bob, in my case they call it polyarthritis...seems like every 2 1/2 or 3 years it hits...the VA puts me on a low dosage of prednazone for a couple of months and that knocks it out..til next time.Sorry about the joking on landed immigrant ! I found someone who can take a joke.
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In this case, Philb, I'm afraid I didn't get the joke! But I bet it was funny!
I hadn't heard of polyarthritis, which isn't surprising. My rheumatologist tells me that there are more than 200 types, and that they aren't always easily diagnosed.
Several years ago I developed polymyalgia rheumatica, "polymyalgia" meaning "pain in many muscles". That's an understatement! Before it was diagnosed, pain on movement was so bad that I could hardly move. It's diagnosed with a simple blood test checking the erythrocyte sedimentation rate, an indicator of inflammation, and mine was right off the scale. Right away (it was about 11 a.m.) I was given 50mg of prednisone and by 4 p.m. I was symptom free. Wonderful stuff, prednisone. Horrible stuff, prednisone. It took me almost two years to wean myself off it, and it left me with thin nails and skin that is so easily bruised that I can't stand a brush-off from a good looking woman. Oh, wait, that's my ego that gets bruised!
I think I'm lucky to have avoided serious vision problems. I mentioned in my earlier post that the hydroxychloroquine that I take can cause blindness. Polymyalgia rheumatica often comes with temporal arteritis, inflammation of the temporal nerve that can also blindness, and very quickly.
Back to slogan cancellations: I have an largish collection of wartime Canadian slogan cancels on cover (and some on piece), as well as a similar collection of the wartime slogan cancellations of Great Britain. They mostly deal with conservation and recycling. Here are two of my Canadian items, a twice-used war-economy window envelope franked with a Scott O254 "Small O.H.M.S." stamp, and a postcard, Scott #UX77.
My Canada specialized catalogue lists three types of the post card, Type 1 ( "No inscription"), Type 5 ("Straight Line 'CANADA POST CARD' top centre of card"), and Type 7 ("Bilingual 'CANADA/POST CARD' top centre"). I guess that Type 7 comes closest, but that's not the way I would describe it. In fact, the catalogue includes French in its descriptions of other bilingual post card types. Perhaps we have a Canada specialist who can comment?
The "SAVE FAT FOR EXPLOSIVES" slogan cancellation certainly makes no bones about the fact that Canadian housewives could help to blow up Germans and Germany. In this context, the return address for the second usage of the cover is interesting — "Marketing Service/Union Stockyards/Toronto 9". Canada was perhaps following Britain's lead: A 1940 British slogan cancellation urges Brits to "SAVE WASTE PAPER/METALS/BONES/RAGS". Both fat and bones contained glycerin, used in the manufacture of explosives.
It's interesting to note that while Canada did not apparently suffer a shortage of coal during the war, someone felt it necessary to encourage people to save it by designing the "CONSERVE COAL/CONSERVEZ LE CHARBON" slogan cancellation. Curiously, although coal shortages were common in Great Britain, there are no British "CONSERVE COAL" slogan cancellations. I've wondered if that was a political decision:
When war was declared on Germany, coal miners quit in droves to volunteer for the military. I'm sure they figured that the working conditions and pay made enlistment worthwhile. With the coal mines basically emptying of miners, the government ordered soldiers to work in the mines, and there followed many strikes for better pay and working conditions. Perhaps the government thought that a "CONSERVE COAL" slogan cancellation would anger miners, who may have perceived that their jobs would be threatened? I would certainly like to learn more about that aspect of the war.
Bob
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"... although coal shortages were common in Great Britain, there are no British "CONSERVE COAL" slogan cancellations ..."
It could be a question of bandwidth, eg, perhaps the campaigns for scrap steel (people gave their staircase banisters & garden fences) and lead (children gave their toy soldiers) were considered more critical.
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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Bob,
You may already be aware of this site, nonetheless it may useful to others:
Postal History Corner; wartime slogans
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speaking of slogan cancels, I noticed one listed in the current auction selection, that's been there since Saturday.
" DIPHTHERIA KILLS cancel "
not intended as self promotion, just informational only.
Mike
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@Ningpo: Thank you for the Postal History Corner link, where I spotted this interesting cover...
which is a version in green of this cover in my collection:
Halliday Hamilton was a manufacturer of prefab homes. I haven't taken the time to do any serious research, but my guess is that their business really took off during the Second World War, when housing was at a premium all across Canada. Archive.org offers a Halliday Hamilton catalogue published in 1942. Prices start at $852 for delivery within 100 miles of Hamilton, Ontario.
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Obviously, I have too many covers! After I'd posted the image of the other one in my collection I found this Hallidays Hamilton cover, with a different cachet, printed in dark blue (almost purple), and with quite a clear "V ••• —" cancellation, and franked with a 2-cent stamp rather than 4-stamps like the others. Is the 2-cent rate must be the local "drop letter" rate? (I wonder if the covers enclosed copies of the Simplex System catalogue.)
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My Father was a mineworker in the UK prior to WW2. However as a surface worker his was not a reserved occupation - despite being a key safety worker. His call up was deferred until 1941 - so presumably there was some arrangement that certain key workers went to the bottom of the queue.
My Mother ( who was single at the time), was however conscripted into essential war work. While some women went into the forces,some into munitions factories and some onto the land to release men for the forces, my Mother worked on the buses ( in UK speak conductor or guard ) -on the back collecting fares. There were a few women drivers, but in the days of manual gearboxes and non-power steering, not many were considered to be physically strong enough.There were many female Railway station workers,signalmen,locomotive and rolling stock cleaners. Some women even delivered aircraft ( including Spitfires ) from factories and repair works to airfields.
It is true that many underground workers in the mines volunteered for military service, and some of these were replaced by "conscientious objectors" such as Jehovah's Witnesses and Quakers(unlike in Germany where they were put in concentration camps).
Malcolm
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The woollen rags were shredded,the wool blended with new wool and turned into "shoddy" (using knitted wool) or "Mungo" (using wool cloth). These cloths were then turned into battledress uniforms for the armed forces.
My home town, Dewsbury in the West Riding of Yorkshire, was the worlds largest centre for the production of shoddy and mungo (in fact the process was invented in the next door town of Batley ). In fact reclaimed wool is still used there, but now it is turned into manure(the mind boggles !). And we think that recycling is something new.
It is difficult to imagine today how the concept of "total war" crept into absolutely every part and detail of people's lives - when every person, product and company was harnessed for the war effort. Even children used to collect Rose Hips to make medicine.
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Speaking of the war effort, Chislehurst Caves made it into The Paper:
An All-Purpose Maze Deep Beneath a London Suburb
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