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General Philatelic/Identify This? : CUBA STAMPS ??????

 

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30 Apr 2016
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I have received from cuba these stuffs, I do not know if they are stamps or philatelic collectible? can you help me to identify them Many thanks in advanceImage Not Found

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03 May 2016
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85 views, and nobody can help me to identify these stuff Crying

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03 May 2016
08:11:37am
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Well, they "look" like part of a souvenir card set commemorating the 50th Anniversary of the Cuban Revolution.

It would be helpful if you could scan a pic of a SINGLE card front and back. As is, I cannot read any of the details on the card. I can't speak for the others, but I did not reply because I couldn't see the details to verify/correct my assumption.

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03 May 2016
10:58:15am
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I could not tell if we were looking at small cards with stamps or booklet pages with pictures of stamps.

Please scan one, and include a scaling object (eg, a common coin).

Please tell us if these are independent objects (eg, cards) or pages cut from a booklet.

Cheers,

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03 May 2016
10:58:59am
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Windows magnifier comes to mind !

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03 May 2016
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Windows magnifier is only useful if the resolution is sufficient. It also depends on what one is looking at, whether pixelated or blurred is better. I usually prefer to just magnify the picture using successive Ctrl+ key combination. Either way, still cannot read the fine print nor logos.

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03 May 2016
05:13:42pm

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Thank you for first appreciation.
As I am out of home for a week, will add better picture as required as soon as I come back. I have received these after a trade with Cuban exchange partner few years ago.

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03 May 2016
07:49:29pm
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They certainly look interesting. Looking forward to seeing some individual pics!

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15 May 2016
03:32:19pm

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herebelow another scan, may be can help to identify
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15 May 2016
05:45:07pm
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Your new scan is too big. Can you do a smaller one?

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15 May 2016
07:03:15pm
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Although not listed as a sheet, the 2014 Scott catalogue lists this as July 10th. 2002 issue, Perf 12.75 x 12.5 Mint $1.75, used $0.90.
Description is Nicolás Guillén, (1902-1989) Poet. Image number A1183, list number 4232.
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15 May 2016
08:34:34pm
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Have just gone back and re read the original question.
On that basis it looks like they are Post office packs/ souvenir sheets. Here is a link to a website that has details of some of them.
http://www.cubapostal.com/cgi-local/home.cgi?view_mode=&period=5&varieties=excluded
The stamps I have found do not always run catalogue wise in the order of pack number.
Pack 85 Scott 1988 issued July 1st. 1975.
Pack 87 Scott 3027 issued May 23rd. 1988.
Pack 92 as my previous answer.
Pack 99 Not found in Scott but on website as 1998.
Pack 109 Scott 4659 Dec 15th. 2004.
Pack 121 Scott 4260a Nov 1st. 2002.
Possibly these were a special anniversary printing for the 50th. Anniversary of the Revolution but I am unable to read the Spanish/Cuban wording, maybe someone else can translate for you.
Hope this helps.

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15 May 2016
11:01:36pm
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Translation of scan:

His excellence as a poet and his love and devotion to the Fatherland defined him as the National Poet of Cuba.

Nicolas Guillen was born in Camagüey, July 10, 1902. He published, among other works Motivos del Son, Sóngoro Cosongo and Elegies. He excelled not only as a journalist, politician and tireless defender of the most transcendental of identity of peoples. Guillen's poetry is considered genuine expression of the voice of the Cuban nation. He died in Havana in 1989.

(Google translate - I may have typed in a few errors due to magnification of scan)

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15 May 2016
11:47:44pm
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These are not stamps. As I stated before, these are souvenir cards with reproductions of Cuban stamps. Note the relatively sizes of the stamps & S/S's shown and we can recognize that they are not-to-scale reproductions printed on the cards.

Thank you for the bigger picture. I just needed to confirm they were from the card set issued in 2009 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. The set consists of 152 souvenir cards. There is a fairly large album that goes with the set -- several cards can be mounted on a page. Those familiar with products/albums produced by the Postal Commemorative Society will have a rough idea of what it looks like.

In answer to your original question, these would be considered a "philatelic collectible".

Personally, I like them even though I don't collect them. Thanks again for posting the pics! Feel free to post more individual card pics!

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16 May 2016
12:05:47pm
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I am always amazed by what you know, Kim.

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16 May 2016
02:46:47pm
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Thanks for the kind words, Smauggie.

Actually, I really don't know much, but I've always been very good at knowing where to look. Guess I spent too much time at the library when I was in elementary school.

Ever since I first saw a Scott catalog many decades ago, I've tried to build up a half-decent philatelic library. The internet has really opened up an even larger treasure trove of philatelic knowledge. And of course, there's always our good buddy Google.

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16 May 2016
02:59:09pm
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Here's an example of the worldwide information database that Google has allowed us to peer into. Not sure if this is allowed (not my own sales link), and not sure how long this link will stay active, but the product is listed here:

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,324888171,var,CUBAKUBA-2009-NUOVISSIMO-ALBUM-50-ANOS-DE-REVOLUCION-CON-TUTTE-LE-152-POSTALES-MOLTO-RARO,language,E.html

Sorry, but because of the way delcampe sets up their URLs, I cannot convert it to a clickable link here on SoR.

You can see it's been listed for at least a year with no sales. My guess is the overly-optimistic listed price has a lot to do with it.

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30 Apr 2016
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I have received from cuba these stuffs, I do not know if they are stamps or philatelic collectible? can you help me to identify them Many thanks in advanceImage Not Found

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85 views, and nobody can help me to identify these stuff Crying

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03 May 2016
08:11:37am

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Well, they "look" like part of a souvenir card set commemorating the 50th Anniversary of the Cuban Revolution.

It would be helpful if you could scan a pic of a SINGLE card front and back. As is, I cannot read any of the details on the card. I can't speak for the others, but I did not reply because I couldn't see the details to verify/correct my assumption.

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03 May 2016
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I could not tell if we were looking at small cards with stamps or booklet pages with pictures of stamps.

Please scan one, and include a scaling object (eg, a common coin).

Please tell us if these are independent objects (eg, cards) or pages cut from a booklet.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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03 May 2016
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Windows magnifier comes to mind !

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03 May 2016
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re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

Windows magnifier is only useful if the resolution is sufficient. It also depends on what one is looking at, whether pixelated or blurred is better. I usually prefer to just magnify the picture using successive Ctrl+ key combination. Either way, still cannot read the fine print nor logos.

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03 May 2016
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re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

Thank you for first appreciation.
As I am out of home for a week, will add better picture as required as soon as I come back. I have received these after a trade with Cuban exchange partner few years ago.

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03 May 2016
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They certainly look interesting. Looking forward to seeing some individual pics!

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15 May 2016
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herebelow another scan, may be can help to identify
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15 May 2016
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Your new scan is too big. Can you do a smaller one?

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15 May 2016
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re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

Although not listed as a sheet, the 2014 Scott catalogue lists this as July 10th. 2002 issue, Perf 12.75 x 12.5 Mint $1.75, used $0.90.
Description is Nicolás Guillén, (1902-1989) Poet. Image number A1183, list number 4232.
Hope this helps.

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15 May 2016
08:34:34pm

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Have just gone back and re read the original question.
On that basis it looks like they are Post office packs/ souvenir sheets. Here is a link to a website that has details of some of them.
http://www.cubapostal.com/cgi-local/home.cgi?view_mode=&period=5&varieties=excluded
The stamps I have found do not always run catalogue wise in the order of pack number.
Pack 85 Scott 1988 issued July 1st. 1975.
Pack 87 Scott 3027 issued May 23rd. 1988.
Pack 92 as my previous answer.
Pack 99 Not found in Scott but on website as 1998.
Pack 109 Scott 4659 Dec 15th. 2004.
Pack 121 Scott 4260a Nov 1st. 2002.
Possibly these were a special anniversary printing for the 50th. Anniversary of the Revolution but I am unable to read the Spanish/Cuban wording, maybe someone else can translate for you.
Hope this helps.

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15 May 2016
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re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

Translation of scan:

His excellence as a poet and his love and devotion to the Fatherland defined him as the National Poet of Cuba.

Nicolas Guillen was born in Camagüey, July 10, 1902. He published, among other works Motivos del Son, Sóngoro Cosongo and Elegies. He excelled not only as a journalist, politician and tireless defender of the most transcendental of identity of peoples. Guillen's poetry is considered genuine expression of the voice of the Cuban nation. He died in Havana in 1989.

(Google translate - I may have typed in a few errors due to magnification of scan)

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15 May 2016
11:47:44pm

re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

These are not stamps. As I stated before, these are souvenir cards with reproductions of Cuban stamps. Note the relatively sizes of the stamps & S/S's shown and we can recognize that they are not-to-scale reproductions printed on the cards.

Thank you for the bigger picture. I just needed to confirm they were from the card set issued in 2009 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. The set consists of 152 souvenir cards. There is a fairly large album that goes with the set -- several cards can be mounted on a page. Those familiar with products/albums produced by the Postal Commemorative Society will have a rough idea of what it looks like.

In answer to your original question, these would be considered a "philatelic collectible".

Personally, I like them even though I don't collect them. Thanks again for posting the pics! Feel free to post more individual card pics!

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16 May 2016
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I am always amazed by what you know, Kim.

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16 May 2016
02:46:47pm

re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

Thanks for the kind words, Smauggie.

Actually, I really don't know much, but I've always been very good at knowing where to look. Guess I spent too much time at the library when I was in elementary school.

Ever since I first saw a Scott catalog many decades ago, I've tried to build up a half-decent philatelic library. The internet has really opened up an even larger treasure trove of philatelic knowledge. And of course, there's always our good buddy Google.

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16 May 2016
02:59:09pm

re: CUBA STAMPS ??????

Here's an example of the worldwide information database that Google has allowed us to peer into. Not sure if this is allowed (not my own sales link), and not sure how long this link will stay active, but the product is listed here:

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,324888171,var,CUBAKUBA-2009-NUOVISSIMO-ALBUM-50-ANOS-DE-REVOLUCION-CON-TUTTE-LE-152-POSTALES-MOLTO-RARO,language,E.html

Sorry, but because of the way delcampe sets up their URLs, I cannot convert it to a clickable link here on SoR.

You can see it's been listed for at least a year with no sales. My guess is the overly-optimistic listed price has a lot to do with it.

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