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Asia/China : Hong Kong Edward V11

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sheepshanks
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25 Mar 2016
08:14:23pm
Ok thought I was ahead of the game sorting this lot by lower corner design and by colour difference only to turn the SG cat. page and find the later issues were a mix of corner designs and numerals.
Does anyone have any hints or tips for sorting these issues? Guess I will start again by sorting watermark varieties first, knew it should have been my first move, trying to cut corners again, always seems to make the job harder.
Aghhhh, might have to go back to the cross stitch at this rate.
Anyway happy Easter to one and all, enjoy whatever are your celebrations, not too many eggs now!
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Ningpo
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25 Mar 2016
08:33:36pm
re: Hong Kong Edward V11

Sheepshanks

You have me completely discombobulated. I don't know of any Hong Kong KEVII definitive that has anything other than a swastika in each of the four corners.

Perhaps I have misunderstood. Can you post an image to clarify?

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nigelc
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25 Mar 2016
09:07:17pm
re: Hong Kong Edward V11

Hi sheepshanks,

Are you referring to the SG types 27 and 28 for the King George V issues?

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sheepshanks
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25 Mar 2016
09:22:46pm
re: Hong Kong Edward V11

OOPs, just realised I had the Eddie 7 and George 5 mixed in together, the busts are not very distinct under the post marks, or my eyes are getting old!
Have now separated them and will soon, well tomorrow, get the watermark tray out and see how that progresses. Mind you I have great difficulty with watermarks on HK stamps, some seem non existent even when I know they have to be there.
If anyone has a few unused brain cells I think I could do with some new ones. No I do not want any of Trumps even if you could find them. Actually do politicians have brains? as they are richer than us does it matter.
Thanks for the quick responses, glad you are all awake, more so than me.
Vic
PS yes/no Nigelc I was confusing SG 20-23 with 24-28

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Ningpo
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25 Mar 2016
10:21:17pm
re: Hong Kong Edward V11

This can be very tough even with some white paper values. If it is any consolation, at least one of my reference books even states '...where a watermark could not be determined'. This is in reference to the coloured paper GV definitives, overprinted CHINA.

Trying to identify the Script watermark versions of the 50 cent and $1 renders me a gibbering wreck, particularly as these have considerable catalogue value.

And for those without any idea of what we are talking about, here is an example of that series:


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sheepshanks
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26 Mar 2016
10:00:17am
re: Hong Kong Edward V11

Ningpo, thanks for the gibbering wreck bit, having just spent the last 30 minutes watermarking I understand your thoughts entirely.
I ended up with most, from both issues, identified but have around 20 of the more highly coloured papers, upon which I could not see a trace of watermark.
Will have another go at these with a scanner and fluid later to see if it makes any difference.
Now for a lie down in that dark room, cold flannel nurse please.

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Ningpo
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26 Mar 2016
10:49:05pm
re: Hong Kong Edward V11

To illustrate how difficult watermark detection is with some of these GV definitives, here's the very vivid emerald green SG26 Script watermark 50c, with China overprint:


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I bought this copy very recently from a seller who accepted my offer of £15 against his low 'buy it now' price of £20 (catalogued at £300). This definitive was issued at the very end of the 'treaty port' usage in 1927. So late, that it was only used in the last office that remained open at that time, namely Wei Hai Wei.

How he managed to identify this as the script watermark version with that hinge on the back, is beyond me:


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Try as I might, I could not find a watermark with the stamp in that state. I tried all manner of methods with no success until I removed the hinge and gunk.

Only by shining a strong light through a coloured filter revealed that the seller was in fact correct. Lighter fuel and the Morley Bright contraptions were no help at all.





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