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metalbender

23 Mar 2016
04:04:50pm
anyone know of any direct distributors for mounts? i need thousands of them and the idea of paying full blown retail for lil packages of 40-50 mounts galls.
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23 Mar 2016
04:13:06pm
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I think that is the holy grail of stamp collecting - affordable stamp mounts. Laughing

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23 Mar 2016
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well thats certainly disheartening, ive got about 30k stamps to inventory and mount :/

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23 Mar 2016
04:31:13pm
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Well, forget about ever buying any more stamps. All of your future earnings will go toward buying mounts.

I'm going the Ralph Anavy route: I've sworn off mounts for all but my more expensive stamps, and I'm going with Scotch 811 tape.

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23 Mar 2016
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23 Mar 2016
04:36:49pm
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Another reason I hate mounts:

Tedski's Law of Stamp Mounts: You never have the correct size on hand, for the stamps you are currently working on.

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23 Mar 2016
04:39:16pm
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one of my projects is a 4 volume mingus global (technically a 3 volume but I added a empty binder and redistrib for space for custom pages) , my "high test" stuff does indeed go into mounts, then glassines, then dealer pages, then the binder,

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23 Mar 2016
04:41:07pm
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Check for mounts on Ebay, Linn's or the American Philatelist for a dealer that sells seconds, which I have never found a fault with and have been using for years. You get twice as many mounts as the originals for the same price. I think one of the sellers is a fellow named Smith, in Sarasota, Florida and I know I've seen his ads either in Linn's or the AP magazine. I just took all of my AP magazines to the stamp club last night, so don't have even one around here.
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23 Mar 2016
04:49:16pm
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I found his name on a different ad in Linn's, but it's the same fellow. Roy Smith, PO box 21117, Sarasota, Florida 34276. I don't have his phone number, but have talked to him a time or two and it shouldn't be hard to get if you want it.
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23 Mar 2016
04:51:37pm
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his web site is http://showgardseconds.com/

Although, I was doing some comparison shopping last week. Subway had a sale on Scott Mounts which beat the prices of showgardseconds.

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TribalErnie

23 Mar 2016
04:57:46pm
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What exactly are the "seconds"? From the manufacturer but not quite ready for prime time?

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TribalErnie

23 Mar 2016
05:00:19pm
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I wouldn't want a collection where there's twice as much value in the albums and mounts as there is in the stamps...many do it but...

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metalbender

23 Mar 2016
05:09:34pm
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Smith, Roy (APS# 165912)
Contact: Mr. Roy Smith
P.O. Box 21117
Sarasota, FL 34276-4117
Phone: (941) 378-4881
Selling Method: Mail, Show Bourses
Dealer Status: Full Time
Services Offered: Approvals, Buys Stamps, Want Lists Service, Supplies/Albums
Specialties: U.S., Supplies
APS Dealer Since: 1992

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michael78651

23 Mar 2016
05:21:14pm
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The "seconds" do not necessarily mean that the mounts are defective. Could also be the packaging.

I know some dealers sell the strips from broken packs as "seconds". If there are any damaged mounts they throw them out.

A long time ago, I made the decision to put all my stamps in mounts. Took a while to do, but I got it done. Now it's just a matter of putting all new purchases in mounts and then the albums. Takes no time at all now. I keep a supply of all mount strip sizes that come in lengths of at least 150mm, and a couple of extra packs of the smaller sizes (80-mm and smaller) and one of each of the larger sizes (up to 150mm). I don't use the sizes larger than 150mm that much, so I don't keep extras of those. I have been dropping from my inventory all the mount sizes that come in sizes less than 200mm. I find that the strip lengths of 200mm and up come in heights close enough to where it doesn't matter that much. Besides, those "specialty" mounts come in packs of very small quantities and very high prices. I'm saving money by dropping those.

I am not sold on that 811 tape. A few months ago I started working from A to Z on the piles of stamps that I had lying around for what I found to be up to 20 years! Some of the stamps that I bought around five years ago had been mounted on APS approval book pages with the 811 tape. The stamps were stuck to the glassines from residue from the tape. I no longer knowingly buy stamps that were mounted using tape. "Tape" and its implications is the operative word for me.

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23 Mar 2016
05:22:59pm
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"What exactly are the "seconds"?"



I've bought quite a few of these "seconds," in the past; I've never discerned any quality issues with them. It could simply be the way Showgard conducts its quality assurance: inspect a sample size from a lot, if a certain number of defects are found, reject the whole lot. That still leaves a very large percentage of perfectly good 1st quality "babies" that get thrown out with the bath water (or sold to Roy Smith).

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23 Mar 2016
05:42:16pm
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anglophile thanks thats exactly what im looking for!

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23 Mar 2016
05:51:12pm
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I buy the mixed bags - I find that is easier unless I have a significant amount of stamps of one size then I'll buy some individual packages but by buying in the mixed bags I'm able to create so many sizes and can easily turn a top opening to a side opening from a residue of another mount. Or those little pipsqueak USSR stamps will fit into the "ends" left over from cutting a full strip - if calculated out I'll end up with a piece of mount that will match those little stamps!

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michael78651

23 Mar 2016
06:01:14pm
re: wholesale/bulk mounts

If you have a Hobby Lobby near you, and if they sell stamp mounts (the one near me sells them, but only the pre-cut ones), you can use their weekly 40% off coupon to buy mounts.

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23 Mar 2016
06:14:22pm
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Mind you, the Hobby Lobby coupon is good for 40% off one item. At - what? - 40 mounts per pkg, and 30,000 stamps to mount, that's only 750 trips to the store. They are open 6 days a week. You should be done by September 2018, not taking into account any more stamps you buy in the meantime. Big Grin

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23 Mar 2016
06:31:31pm
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O.K. As is often the case when a discussion thread gets detailed something pops up that I've never heard of- which is good- I learn from it and can usually figure it out. But this time ------ What is 811 tape?

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michael78651

23 Mar 2016
06:32:15pm
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Well, it is possible to sometimes work it out with the cashier or manager to use more than one coupon at the same time. At the least, if you run out unexpectedly, you can buy a pack without waiting for the mail. Works good in a pinch.

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michael78651

23 Mar 2016
07:02:06pm
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Here's a little more information on it:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/358878O/811-datablad.pdf

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23 Mar 2016
07:47:55pm
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Thanks for the information. After looking at that spec sheet it's something I doubt I'd ever use.

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23 Mar 2016
08:59:42pm
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Hobby Lobby doesn't stock a big quantity of anything in the stamp area. So don't go there figuring on buying 30,000 mounts. I regularly buy the Super Safe stock book there. They stock ONE. So I will buy it with the 40% off coupon and it's around $10.

I also buy what I believe are Super Safe black stock pages. I buy the ones that have two pockets per page for covers. They stock TWO packs! So I buy the two packs every visit, one gets the 40% off. I still don't have enough to house my G Washington Bicentennial covers!

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23 Mar 2016
11:26:06pm
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You could always try bringing more than one coupon in and see if they honor it. First time I did that the cashier told me that it was only one coupon per visit. I asked her what "visit" meant. She said when someone comes into the store that was a visit, and it ends when they walk out the store. I asked her if I went to my car and put what I just bought in the car and came back in could I use another coupon? She said I could. She then looked at me and told me to just go get what I wanted, because it would be kind of stupid to make me go to the car and come back in. At that store they accepted a coupon for each item that I wanted to buy.

We have several Hobby Lobby stores in the area. When I was really needing to buy alot of scenery material for my train layout, I often did the circuit to at least four of the stores. I did this about once a month. I took coupons with me to each one.

At one of the other stores, the manager told me that I could get all that I wanted (of the scenery items) and he told the cashier to give me 40% off my entire purchase. At this store they only required me to have one coupon.

At the other two, one manager would only accept one per visit (I went to the car and came back). At the other store they only accepted one coupon per day. That one was the farthest away, so I often left that off the circuit.

I did this for about six months until I had all that I needed. All I did was ask what was all right with the store as regards to using the coupon.

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24 Mar 2016
03:07:03pm
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Well, so much for my Scotch 811 idea. Here's the reply I got from 3M, when I queried them on it:

Thank you for contacting 3M, where we Apply Science to Life, Stationery and Office Supplies Division.

Scotch® Removable Tape 811 is not acid free nor is it archival but it is photo safe.


We cannot make any guarantees on how our products will perform on stamps because of the various components used to make stamps (inks, papers, glue, etc.). We do not do any testing on stamps. We would not recommend using Scotch® Removable Tape 811 to mount expensive stamps
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24 Mar 2016
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I use mounts on a couple of focused collections and any HV stamps throughout, but I could only dare to dream of owning a collection worthy of using mounts for every stamp. I love my stamps, but not enough to take out a second mortgage on the house. Hinges will do for the majority.


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24 Mar 2016
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CapeStampMan mentioned Roy Smith for mount seconds. Roy sells Showgard seconds. I have purchased from him in the past. Excellent service. He advertises in Linns. His phone number is (941)378-4881. Another source for Showgard seconds is showgardseconds.com.

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metalbender

23 Mar 2016
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anyone know of any direct distributors for mounts? i need thousands of them and the idea of paying full blown retail for lil packages of 40-50 mounts galls.

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23 Mar 2016
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I think that is the holy grail of stamp collecting - affordable stamp mounts. Laughing

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23 Mar 2016
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well thats certainly disheartening, ive got about 30k stamps to inventory and mount :/

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23 Mar 2016
04:31:13pm

re: wholesale/bulk mounts

Well, forget about ever buying any more stamps. All of your future earnings will go toward buying mounts.

I'm going the Ralph Anavy route: I've sworn off mounts for all but my more expensive stamps, and I'm going with Scotch 811 tape.

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23 Mar 2016
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just got off the phone with vidiforms, ill be stopping by their facilities and placing a order I think this summer when im out east.

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23 Mar 2016
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Another reason I hate mounts:

Tedski's Law of Stamp Mounts: You never have the correct size on hand, for the stamps you are currently working on.

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23 Mar 2016
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one of my projects is a 4 volume mingus global (technically a 3 volume but I added a empty binder and redistrib for space for custom pages) , my "high test" stuff does indeed go into mounts, then glassines, then dealer pages, then the binder,

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23 Mar 2016
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Check for mounts on Ebay, Linn's or the American Philatelist for a dealer that sells seconds, which I have never found a fault with and have been using for years. You get twice as many mounts as the originals for the same price. I think one of the sellers is a fellow named Smith, in Sarasota, Florida and I know I've seen his ads either in Linn's or the AP magazine. I just took all of my AP magazines to the stamp club last night, so don't have even one around here.
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I found his name on a different ad in Linn's, but it's the same fellow. Roy Smith, PO box 21117, Sarasota, Florida 34276. I don't have his phone number, but have talked to him a time or two and it shouldn't be hard to get if you want it.
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23 Mar 2016
04:51:37pm

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his web site is http://showgardseconds.com/

Although, I was doing some comparison shopping last week. Subway had a sale on Scott Mounts which beat the prices of showgardseconds.

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23 Mar 2016
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What exactly are the "seconds"? From the manufacturer but not quite ready for prime time?

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23 Mar 2016
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I wouldn't want a collection where there's twice as much value in the albums and mounts as there is in the stamps...many do it but...

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metalbender

23 Mar 2016
05:09:34pm

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Smith, Roy (APS# 165912)
Contact: Mr. Roy Smith
P.O. Box 21117
Sarasota, FL 34276-4117
Phone: (941) 378-4881
Selling Method: Mail, Show Bourses
Dealer Status: Full Time
Services Offered: Approvals, Buys Stamps, Want Lists Service, Supplies/Albums
Specialties: U.S., Supplies
APS Dealer Since: 1992

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michael78651

23 Mar 2016
05:21:14pm

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The "seconds" do not necessarily mean that the mounts are defective. Could also be the packaging.

I know some dealers sell the strips from broken packs as "seconds". If there are any damaged mounts they throw them out.

A long time ago, I made the decision to put all my stamps in mounts. Took a while to do, but I got it done. Now it's just a matter of putting all new purchases in mounts and then the albums. Takes no time at all now. I keep a supply of all mount strip sizes that come in lengths of at least 150mm, and a couple of extra packs of the smaller sizes (80-mm and smaller) and one of each of the larger sizes (up to 150mm). I don't use the sizes larger than 150mm that much, so I don't keep extras of those. I have been dropping from my inventory all the mount sizes that come in sizes less than 200mm. I find that the strip lengths of 200mm and up come in heights close enough to where it doesn't matter that much. Besides, those "specialty" mounts come in packs of very small quantities and very high prices. I'm saving money by dropping those.

I am not sold on that 811 tape. A few months ago I started working from A to Z on the piles of stamps that I had lying around for what I found to be up to 20 years! Some of the stamps that I bought around five years ago had been mounted on APS approval book pages with the 811 tape. The stamps were stuck to the glassines from residue from the tape. I no longer knowingly buy stamps that were mounted using tape. "Tape" and its implications is the operative word for me.

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23 Mar 2016
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"What exactly are the "seconds"?"



I've bought quite a few of these "seconds," in the past; I've never discerned any quality issues with them. It could simply be the way Showgard conducts its quality assurance: inspect a sample size from a lot, if a certain number of defects are found, reject the whole lot. That still leaves a very large percentage of perfectly good 1st quality "babies" that get thrown out with the bath water (or sold to Roy Smith).

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I buy the mixed bags - I find that is easier unless I have a significant amount of stamps of one size then I'll buy some individual packages but by buying in the mixed bags I'm able to create so many sizes and can easily turn a top opening to a side opening from a residue of another mount. Or those little pipsqueak USSR stamps will fit into the "ends" left over from cutting a full strip - if calculated out I'll end up with a piece of mount that will match those little stamps!

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23 Mar 2016
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If you have a Hobby Lobby near you, and if they sell stamp mounts (the one near me sells them, but only the pre-cut ones), you can use their weekly 40% off coupon to buy mounts.

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23 Mar 2016
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Mind you, the Hobby Lobby coupon is good for 40% off one item. At - what? - 40 mounts per pkg, and 30,000 stamps to mount, that's only 750 trips to the store. They are open 6 days a week. You should be done by September 2018, not taking into account any more stamps you buy in the meantime. Big Grin

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23 Mar 2016
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O.K. As is often the case when a discussion thread gets detailed something pops up that I've never heard of- which is good- I learn from it and can usually figure it out. But this time ------ What is 811 tape?

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michael78651

23 Mar 2016
06:32:15pm

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Well, it is possible to sometimes work it out with the cashier or manager to use more than one coupon at the same time. At the least, if you run out unexpectedly, you can buy a pack without waiting for the mail. Works good in a pinch.

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23 Mar 2016
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Here's a little more information on it:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/358878O/811-datablad.pdf

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23 Mar 2016
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Thanks for the information. After looking at that spec sheet it's something I doubt I'd ever use.

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23 Mar 2016
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Hobby Lobby doesn't stock a big quantity of anything in the stamp area. So don't go there figuring on buying 30,000 mounts. I regularly buy the Super Safe stock book there. They stock ONE. So I will buy it with the 40% off coupon and it's around $10.

I also buy what I believe are Super Safe black stock pages. I buy the ones that have two pockets per page for covers. They stock TWO packs! So I buy the two packs every visit, one gets the 40% off. I still don't have enough to house my G Washington Bicentennial covers!

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23 Mar 2016
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You could always try bringing more than one coupon in and see if they honor it. First time I did that the cashier told me that it was only one coupon per visit. I asked her what "visit" meant. She said when someone comes into the store that was a visit, and it ends when they walk out the store. I asked her if I went to my car and put what I just bought in the car and came back in could I use another coupon? She said I could. She then looked at me and told me to just go get what I wanted, because it would be kind of stupid to make me go to the car and come back in. At that store they accepted a coupon for each item that I wanted to buy.

We have several Hobby Lobby stores in the area. When I was really needing to buy alot of scenery material for my train layout, I often did the circuit to at least four of the stores. I did this about once a month. I took coupons with me to each one.

At one of the other stores, the manager told me that I could get all that I wanted (of the scenery items) and he told the cashier to give me 40% off my entire purchase. At this store they only required me to have one coupon.

At the other two, one manager would only accept one per visit (I went to the car and came back). At the other store they only accepted one coupon per day. That one was the farthest away, so I often left that off the circuit.

I did this for about six months until I had all that I needed. All I did was ask what was all right with the store as regards to using the coupon.

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24 Mar 2016
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Well, so much for my Scotch 811 idea. Here's the reply I got from 3M, when I queried them on it:

Thank you for contacting 3M, where we Apply Science to Life, Stationery and Office Supplies Division.

Scotch® Removable Tape 811 is not acid free nor is it archival but it is photo safe.


We cannot make any guarantees on how our products will perform on stamps because of the various components used to make stamps (inks, papers, glue, etc.). We do not do any testing on stamps. We would not recommend using Scotch® Removable Tape 811 to mount expensive stamps
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24 Mar 2016
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I use mounts on a couple of focused collections and any HV stamps throughout, but I could only dare to dream of owning a collection worthy of using mounts for every stamp. I love my stamps, but not enough to take out a second mortgage on the house. Hinges will do for the majority.


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24 Mar 2016
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CapeStampMan mentioned Roy Smith for mount seconds. Roy sells Showgard seconds. I have purchased from him in the past. Excellent service. He advertises in Linns. His phone number is (941)378-4881. Another source for Showgard seconds is showgardseconds.com.

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