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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : An Unforeseen Blunder

 

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whitebuffalo
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10 Mar 2016
08:26:59am
I've spent quite a few hours over the years acquiring and hoarding MNH Israel issues with tabs. Diligently storing them in glassine and tucked away in a stockbook until I had assembled a "collection" worth mounting. It was to be my first stab at "one country", "one album", "well mounted" and all MNH.
Well, with a few recent purchases, (SOR ApprovalsThumbs Up) along with the PDF downloads for Israel w/tabs pages, it was time to get started.
A fair showing '48-'50, but the collection really kicks in from 1950 on. About half way through the 60's, it was time to order more mounts. After going online, it seemed the only place I could find them, was a few scattered out through Ebay. It made me wonder if they had been discontinued. Sooo...I did a search here at SOR and what was one of the first things I read? "DO NOT USE CRYSTAL MOUNTS!"D'Oh
I had purchased a large hoard of stamps and supplies last summer and there were 3 or 4 packages of "Crystal Mounts" included. Up until now, with very few exceptions, my collection had been used stamps and mounted with hinges. It never occurred to me that there were "bad mounts".
So anyway, it's back to the drawing board. All stamps have been removed and put back into proper storage. I'm in the process of printing off replacement pages and will hopefully get some "good mounts" ordered over the weekend.

A lesson learned,

WB

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10 Mar 2016
08:30:16am
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

WB, disaster averted.

if it's any consolation, I bought a truck load of these things decades ago. I hated them immediately, and that was without knowing their killing properties. they're a slight step up from Elmer's glue.

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whitebuffalo
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10 Mar 2016
09:27:24am
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Well maybe a little consolation. Happy

I'm just glad there weren't 30 or 40 packages instead of 3 or 4 and that I found the info here to keep me from a total meltdown.

SOR to the rescue!Whew


WB

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10 Mar 2016
10:26:37am
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

"... I did a search here at SOR and what was one of the first things I read? ..."



Just when you thought it was safe to go back into your album ...
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10 Mar 2016
10:56:10am

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And the thing is they are still in business and advertising in the APS magazine !

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10 Mar 2016
11:24:11am
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Well in all of this, I did manage to avoid using the 2 packages of Marlate mounts. From first glance I didn't like the looks of those. The clear fronts seem to have shrunken a bit, compared to the backing. I wasn't sure if they'd lay out flat once they were cut to size, but opted to not even try them.


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michael78651

10 Mar 2016
11:40:36am
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Good decision. Marlate mounts are absolutely horrible. They seal the stamp on all four sides, and it is very difficult to remove the stamp from the mount later without damaging the stamp. Also, I have seen collections where Marlate mounts were incorrectly used. The result was a collection of damaged stamps.

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10 Mar 2016
01:01:30pm
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All of the problems with mounts and hinges drove me to avoid them completely and use Hagnar and Vario sheets exclusively.

But - I do want to eventually make up a few exhibits and I'm wondering - has anyone ever seen an exhibit that was arranged on black stock sheets? I never have myself but I don't make it to too many WSP type shows.

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10 Mar 2016
02:27:20pm
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Mounting your stamps for an exhibit (temporary) (weeks?) is not really the same thing as consigning your stamps to those mounts for years/decades.

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Tom in Exton, PA

11 Mar 2016
12:31:11pm
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

I'm hoping to attend a large show with framed exhibits sometime soon. The last big APS style show I attended was in the late 1970s. The last world type one was the 1976 Philadelphia one!

Back then there were 8.5x11 pages, but the preferred size was 11x11 then. Some folks hand lettered the pages with ink, but most were typed on typewriters. I bought a special one that used a black film cartridge, and gave more professional results since it was actually engraving each letter from the film. I can't wait to see what people are doing today with the technology advances!

I have my original Ben Franklin exhibit (APS Silver) from that era. I had the pages sandwiched between cardboard all these years, and only recently realized that the 12x12 scrap books were a perfect size to hold this collection. Now it's in one of those. I believe I showed it to Vince a few weeks ago.


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12 Mar 2016
12:07:33am
re: An Unforeseen Blunder

"...has anyone ever seen an exhibit that was arranged on black stock sheets?"



Yes, not unusual here in Europe.

If thinking FIP rules, then presentation gets only 5 points out of 100 both in traditional and thematic philatelic classes. The color of the page really doesn't make the presentation better or worse; it's all about how you do the layout, presentation, organize stuff etc.

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whitebuffalo

10 Mar 2016
08:26:59am

I've spent quite a few hours over the years acquiring and hoarding MNH Israel issues with tabs. Diligently storing them in glassine and tucked away in a stockbook until I had assembled a "collection" worth mounting. It was to be my first stab at "one country", "one album", "well mounted" and all MNH.
Well, with a few recent purchases, (SOR ApprovalsThumbs Up) along with the PDF downloads for Israel w/tabs pages, it was time to get started.
A fair showing '48-'50, but the collection really kicks in from 1950 on. About half way through the 60's, it was time to order more mounts. After going online, it seemed the only place I could find them, was a few scattered out through Ebay. It made me wonder if they had been discontinued. Sooo...I did a search here at SOR and what was one of the first things I read? "DO NOT USE CRYSTAL MOUNTS!"D'Oh
I had purchased a large hoard of stamps and supplies last summer and there were 3 or 4 packages of "Crystal Mounts" included. Up until now, with very few exceptions, my collection had been used stamps and mounted with hinges. It never occurred to me that there were "bad mounts".
So anyway, it's back to the drawing board. All stamps have been removed and put back into proper storage. I'm in the process of printing off replacement pages and will hopefully get some "good mounts" ordered over the weekend.

A lesson learned,

WB

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10 Mar 2016
08:30:16am

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

WB, disaster averted.

if it's any consolation, I bought a truck load of these things decades ago. I hated them immediately, and that was without knowing their killing properties. they're a slight step up from Elmer's glue.

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whitebuffalo

10 Mar 2016
09:27:24am

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Well maybe a little consolation. Happy

I'm just glad there weren't 30 or 40 packages instead of 3 or 4 and that I found the info here to keep me from a total meltdown.

SOR to the rescue!Whew


WB

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ikeyPikey

10 Mar 2016
10:26:37am

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

"... I did a search here at SOR and what was one of the first things I read? ..."



Just when you thought it was safe to go back into your album ...
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10 Mar 2016
10:56:10am

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re: An Unforeseen Blunder

And the thing is they are still in business and advertising in the APS magazine !

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10 Mar 2016
11:24:11am

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Well in all of this, I did manage to avoid using the 2 packages of Marlate mounts. From first glance I didn't like the looks of those. The clear fronts seem to have shrunken a bit, compared to the backing. I wasn't sure if they'd lay out flat once they were cut to size, but opted to not even try them.


WB


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michael78651

10 Mar 2016
11:40:36am

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Good decision. Marlate mounts are absolutely horrible. They seal the stamp on all four sides, and it is very difficult to remove the stamp from the mount later without damaging the stamp. Also, I have seen collections where Marlate mounts were incorrectly used. The result was a collection of damaged stamps.

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philatelia

10 Mar 2016
01:01:30pm

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

All of the problems with mounts and hinges drove me to avoid them completely and use Hagnar and Vario sheets exclusively.

But - I do want to eventually make up a few exhibits and I'm wondering - has anyone ever seen an exhibit that was arranged on black stock sheets? I never have myself but I don't make it to too many WSP type shows.

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ikeyPikey

10 Mar 2016
02:27:20pm

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

Mounting your stamps for an exhibit (temporary) (weeks?) is not really the same thing as consigning your stamps to those mounts for years/decades.

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Tom in Exton, PA
11 Mar 2016
12:31:11pm

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

I'm hoping to attend a large show with framed exhibits sometime soon. The last big APS style show I attended was in the late 1970s. The last world type one was the 1976 Philadelphia one!

Back then there were 8.5x11 pages, but the preferred size was 11x11 then. Some folks hand lettered the pages with ink, but most were typed on typewriters. I bought a special one that used a black film cartridge, and gave more professional results since it was actually engraving each letter from the film. I can't wait to see what people are doing today with the technology advances!

I have my original Ben Franklin exhibit (APS Silver) from that era. I had the pages sandwiched between cardboard all these years, and only recently realized that the 12x12 scrap books were a perfect size to hold this collection. Now it's in one of those. I believe I showed it to Vince a few weeks ago.


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Collecting the world 1840 to date - one stamp at a time!
12 Mar 2016
12:07:33am

re: An Unforeseen Blunder

"...has anyone ever seen an exhibit that was arranged on black stock sheets?"



Yes, not unusual here in Europe.

If thinking FIP rules, then presentation gets only 5 points out of 100 both in traditional and thematic philatelic classes. The color of the page really doesn't make the presentation better or worse; it's all about how you do the layout, presentation, organize stuff etc.

-k-

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