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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

 

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jkcoffer

07 Mar 2016
04:07:11pm
Image Not FoundImage Not FoundNew kid in town,
I have been sitting on my father's stamp collection, after he died for some 28 years know. My father loves his stamps. I can remember some of the thing he shows me; however that was a long time ago. My question to everyone is, How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same. The stamp on the bottom, not sure if it’s a 1902 or a1903 and the one on the top is a 1908.
So much to learn!!!

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07 Mar 2016
04:36:35pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Welcome JKCoffer,
This is a journey-no rush-no pressure-just find the joy that your father before you found, and in doing so you will honor the man & the treasure he left.

If you're lucky, you will discover that the hobby will last you forever.

Happy discovery,
Dan C.

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Tim
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07 Mar 2016
07:09:31pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Hi Dan,
I agree with your thoughts completely. I'm not a US collector, so do you have any initial thoughts on what would help JK on the issue that he posted about?

Regards ... Tim.

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jkcoffer

07 Mar 2016
07:29:43pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

YES PLEASE
How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

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07 Mar 2016
07:48:15pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Dear Tim and JK,
Thanks for asking, but I'm afraid that by answering I would be depriving JK part of the thrill of the hunt.

Let me say the following: We are looking at 2 examples of Scott # 319. There are two recognized types, type 1 and type 11

There are several different shades of color that are recognized varieties that go from a-q

There are earliest recorded dates of use from 1903-1908 for the different varieties

What JK has shown us is actually two different types of stamps altogether, one a regular 319 ( of unknown type), and a coil example. Let me mention that the coil types could be a number 321 or 322. Those have a perf count of 12. (If the perf count is exactly 12, the values are extraordinary. If the perf count is 12 1/2 , don't give up the day job yet.)

Happy hunting my friend.
Dan C.


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jkcoffer

07 Mar 2016
08:25:42pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Thank you, that helps As far as the thrill of the hunt.There is a whole lot more to do and learn.

Thanks for your help, I'm sure you will hear from again, with question.

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07 Mar 2016
09:01:49pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Dan is correct that they are the same stamp but different types. The top stamp appears like the perfs were cut from the bottom of the stamp, so probably not a coil.

Vince

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08 Mar 2016
12:53:45am
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

The best way to tell the difference is to buy, or borrow from your local library, a Scott's catalog, or one similar, for the country you are interested in. If it is only US stamps, a Scott's specialized of US stamps will get you well on your way to identifying US stamps.

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08 Mar 2016
08:17:45am
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Ah Vince, you are likely correct, but for the pot of gold awaiting the finding of a 321 or 322 the search must be made.

JK, did I not mention that a find like that catalogs at $450,000 or $7,000 respectively? Of course my 2009 Scott Specialized catalog is out of date as to current pricing, but surely worth the effort, no? This hobby is a treasure search, be it for $ or knowledge or just plain fun. Along the way you will find other seekers, and together much fun can be had.

Good hunting and feel free to raise all the questions you may have.

Dan C.

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jkcoffer

08 Mar 2016
02:17:33pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Dan : It funny at first all i saw was a way to pay off the house. But know the is on to learn whatever i can, Yes I'm shill lost at times Dad had stamp in 10 album none of them are fill and then he has stamp in folder with differ country on them and them there are the bags. So yes i was thinking about selling them. But then i started to dig in, and then i found a small box with one stamp in it and name on it. i Just got the Scott catalogue from the library, so know the hunt is on.
check out the stamp.
Dam thank for your help, talk to you soon JK Image Not Found

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08 Mar 2016
02:51:09pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Excellent JK,
Welcome to the family, and I wish you good hunting. Always feel free to raise all the questions you may have.

Best,
Dan

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10 Mar 2016
02:57:02pm
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Austrian revenue stamp, from the third issue of 1866, used. You won't find this in Scott catalog.

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jkcoffer

11 Mar 2016
10:02:50am
re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

THANK YOU. I been looking every where for it, Scott catalogue are nice to a point,that if you can get all six book at one time.Thanks for the help JK

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jkcoffer

07 Mar 2016
04:07:11pm

Image Not FoundImage Not FoundNew kid in town,
I have been sitting on my father's stamp collection, after he died for some 28 years know. My father loves his stamps. I can remember some of the thing he shows me; however that was a long time ago. My question to everyone is, How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same. The stamp on the bottom, not sure if it’s a 1902 or a1903 and the one on the top is a 1908.
So much to learn!!!

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dani20

07 Mar 2016
04:36:35pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Welcome JKCoffer,
This is a journey-no rush-no pressure-just find the joy that your father before you found, and in doing so you will honor the man & the treasure he left.

If you're lucky, you will discover that the hobby will last you forever.

Happy discovery,
Dan C.

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Tim
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07 Mar 2016
07:09:31pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Hi Dan,
I agree with your thoughts completely. I'm not a US collector, so do you have any initial thoughts on what would help JK on the issue that he posted about?

Regards ... Tim.

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jkcoffer

07 Mar 2016
07:29:43pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

YES PLEASE
How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

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dani20

07 Mar 2016
07:48:15pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Dear Tim and JK,
Thanks for asking, but I'm afraid that by answering I would be depriving JK part of the thrill of the hunt.

Let me say the following: We are looking at 2 examples of Scott # 319. There are two recognized types, type 1 and type 11

There are several different shades of color that are recognized varieties that go from a-q

There are earliest recorded dates of use from 1903-1908 for the different varieties

What JK has shown us is actually two different types of stamps altogether, one a regular 319 ( of unknown type), and a coil example. Let me mention that the coil types could be a number 321 or 322. Those have a perf count of 12. (If the perf count is exactly 12, the values are extraordinary. If the perf count is 12 1/2 , don't give up the day job yet.)

Happy hunting my friend.
Dan C.


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jkcoffer

07 Mar 2016
08:25:42pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Thank you, that helps As far as the thrill of the hunt.There is a whole lot more to do and learn.

Thanks for your help, I'm sure you will hear from again, with question.

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vinman

07 Mar 2016
09:01:49pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Dan is correct that they are the same stamp but different types. The top stamp appears like the perfs were cut from the bottom of the stamp, so probably not a coil.

Vince

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seanpashby

08 Mar 2016
12:53:45am

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

The best way to tell the difference is to buy, or borrow from your local library, a Scott's catalog, or one similar, for the country you are interested in. If it is only US stamps, a Scott's specialized of US stamps will get you well on your way to identifying US stamps.

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dani20

08 Mar 2016
08:17:45am

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Ah Vince, you are likely correct, but for the pot of gold awaiting the finding of a 321 or 322 the search must be made.

JK, did I not mention that a find like that catalogs at $450,000 or $7,000 respectively? Of course my 2009 Scott Specialized catalog is out of date as to current pricing, but surely worth the effort, no? This hobby is a treasure search, be it for $ or knowledge or just plain fun. Along the way you will find other seekers, and together much fun can be had.

Good hunting and feel free to raise all the questions you may have.

Dan C.

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jkcoffer

08 Mar 2016
02:17:33pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Dan : It funny at first all i saw was a way to pay off the house. But know the is on to learn whatever i can, Yes I'm shill lost at times Dad had stamp in 10 album none of them are fill and then he has stamp in folder with differ country on them and them there are the bags. So yes i was thinking about selling them. But then i started to dig in, and then i found a small box with one stamp in it and name on it. i Just got the Scott catalogue from the library, so know the hunt is on.
check out the stamp.
Dam thank for your help, talk to you soon JK Image Not Found

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dani20

08 Mar 2016
02:51:09pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Excellent JK,
Welcome to the family, and I wish you good hunting. Always feel free to raise all the questions you may have.

Best,
Dan

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HungaryForStamps

10 Mar 2016
02:57:02pm

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

Austrian revenue stamp, from the third issue of 1866, used. You won't find this in Scott catalog.

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jkcoffer

11 Mar 2016
10:02:50am

re: How can you tell differ in the years when they look the same.

THANK YOU. I been looking every where for it, Scott catalogue are nice to a point,that if you can get all six book at one time.Thanks for the help JK

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