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Bobstamp
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01 Mar 2016
11:10:22pm
If you were hoping to complete your Ireland collection, here's a deal for you! Maybe. If you have deep pockets and work fast. I suspect the stamps won't last long, even at the starting price of U.S. $1,260:

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Weeda Stamps, a well-known dealer in Victoria, BC is offering the stamps in their new Dutch auction. Here's their explanation:

"Ireland VF used example of the screamingly rare January 23rd 2014 issue "Irish Citizen Army" commemorative. The stamp was on sale for 10 minutes, then withdrawn, as it was uncertain as to whether it was the correct image of Captain Jack White as depicted on the stamp. Very few escaped the post office. Estimates are in the low teens for the number of known mint examples and around the same numbers for the used examples that have surfaced. Needless to say that this stamp is missing from 99.9% of Irish collections. Includes catalogue info and several articles. Speculative 2016 Scott US $900.00."



It's an interesting example of that shows the futility of trying to complete a country collection unless "completeness" is defined as "complete except for some impossibly rare/expensive stamps".

Weeda stamps, by the way, is an excellent stamp company. For many years, it was located here in Vancouver, offering high quality stamps (specializing in Canada) and exceptional service. Originally it operated from a brick-and-mortar shop (literally), but now, like so many stamp shops, it has moved to on-line sales and frequent auctions. And no, I don't work for Weeda, although I know the owners and recommend them unequivocally.
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01 Mar 2016
11:37:38pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

So, did An Post ever resolve the "certainty" one way or the other? And if it is determined the picture is correct, do they re-release the withdrawn stamps, or have they been destroyed?

Just wonderin' while I'm wanderin'. (with apologies to Tusken RaiderBig Grin)
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01 Mar 2016
11:42:17pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

I have used Weesa several times and were the shipping to Florida or even Texas not so high would have done so more often.
I would point out that their estimates are somewhat Pie in the Sky. However they do post the realizations for the last five auctions on-line so it is a good idea to check out similar material.

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02 Mar 2016
12:18:05am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Hi Everyone;

I believe that Theresa has a used one in her collection. Linn's even wrote an article about her!Applause

Or did I just wake up from a 25 year nap?

Just dreamin'....
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02 Mar 2016
08:52:36am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

I think Theresa found one in a kiloware mix.

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02 Mar 2016
08:57:22am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Yes, she did... If I remember correctly there was also a write up in Linn's about it.

http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9628#66436

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02 Mar 2016
11:37:41am
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Captain Jack White site:www.linns.com

Linn's ... Ireland withdraws stamp over image dispute (20140131)

Linn's ... Ireland plans revised version of withdrawn stamp (20140408)

Linn's ... Photograph removed from revised version of withdrawn Irish Citizen Army stamp (20140425)

Ireland @ StampWorld

Cheers,

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02 Mar 2016
12:41:06pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Yes - I do have a used copy and every once in a while my Cap'n Jack pops up in the upper left corner here.

I sure don't plan to sell it because I only need one more seahorse to have a complete used collection. I can't find a used copy of that darn elusive 10 shilling seahorse that looks like it has a genuine cancel - too many have courtesy cancels.


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02 Mar 2016
09:42:07pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Hey bobstamp thanks for sharing this!

Theresa, I had never heard the story behind this modern rarity and to learn that you found a used copy in a batch of Kiloware is outstanding! That's the type of collecting story I love to hear.

Believe it or not, I find myself paying attention to the stamps in the upper left corner. Some I see over and over but I've never seen that one. I love the revolving stamp up there.

Ernie

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02 Mar 2016
11:12:17pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Hi Everyone;

Hey Ernie, I found one of my most valuable stamps in Kiloware also. It is a machin that is printed
in two colors. The lighter of the two blues is missing.

It's only worth $260+ tho....
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15 May 2016
11:41:33am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Considering how quickly this issue was withdrawn that's a remarkable find! Congratulations.

A top margin MNH strip of 3 sold for €1,500 in Dublin last January.


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OK it didn't reach the €2,000 estimate but still a nice return for a €1.80 outlay. Surprise


For an Irish Times article on some background to the error, people might be interested in the following;

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/dublin-family-claims-mustachioed-mystery-man-on-stamp-1.1667660



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15 May 2016
11:44:52am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Thanks for sharing that link - a great read!

Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?

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15 May 2016
11:55:59am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?

Didn't want to mention the Auction House in case I was contravening rules Angel ........ it was Macdonnel Whyte Ltd on 23/01/2016

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15 May 2016
11:56:33am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Are there known forgeries of this? I may be dreaming, but I recall seeing something like this in HOARD #1. Maybe worth a serious look on a crappy Sunday afternoon?

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15 May 2016
12:45:16pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

"Which auction house sold that strip of 3? [b] Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps? [/b]"




The fellow from Cork (Padraig O'Shea of Ravenstamps), was certainly ahead of the posse Theresa see link below;

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/collector-pays-3000-for-9-sheet-of-withdrawn-stamps-257081.html


Not sure if he was upset at being referred to as a collector though Happy


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15 May 2016
01:47:21pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

David - This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes. But it never hurts to ask!

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15 May 2016
02:07:11pm
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Can you post a picture of the one stamp you are missing? I'll keep an eye out for it.

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15 May 2016
03:20:02pm
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

"This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes..."



Right!

Now that I think of it I may have been having a vision of ikeyPikey in his avatar or thinking of my New Zealand ANZAC stamps. I'll still look, just not today now!


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25 Jul 2016
10:41:11am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

The following are for auction in Dublin on August 6th.

The second item may be the sheet referred to above ?

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Seems to be a few of these about, obviously not many.


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26 Jul 2016
09:55:34am
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Whew - pricey starting bids. Thanks for sharing this info!

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01 Mar 2016
11:10:22pm

If you were hoping to complete your Ireland collection, here's a deal for you! Maybe. If you have deep pockets and work fast. I suspect the stamps won't last long, even at the starting price of U.S. $1,260:

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Weeda Stamps, a well-known dealer in Victoria, BC is offering the stamps in their new Dutch auction. Here's their explanation:

"Ireland VF used example of the screamingly rare January 23rd 2014 issue "Irish Citizen Army" commemorative. The stamp was on sale for 10 minutes, then withdrawn, as it was uncertain as to whether it was the correct image of Captain Jack White as depicted on the stamp. Very few escaped the post office. Estimates are in the low teens for the number of known mint examples and around the same numbers for the used examples that have surfaced. Needless to say that this stamp is missing from 99.9% of Irish collections. Includes catalogue info and several articles. Speculative 2016 Scott US $900.00."



It's an interesting example of that shows the futility of trying to complete a country collection unless "completeness" is defined as "complete except for some impossibly rare/expensive stamps".

Weeda stamps, by the way, is an excellent stamp company. For many years, it was located here in Vancouver, offering high quality stamps (specializing in Canada) and exceptional service. Originally it operated from a brick-and-mortar shop (literally), but now, like so many stamp shops, it has moved to on-line sales and frequent auctions. And no, I don't work for Weeda, although I know the owners and recommend them unequivocally.
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01 Mar 2016
11:37:38pm

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

So, did An Post ever resolve the "certainty" one way or the other? And if it is determined the picture is correct, do they re-release the withdrawn stamps, or have they been destroyed?

Just wonderin' while I'm wanderin'. (with apologies to Tusken RaiderBig Grin)
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11:42:17pm

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

I have used Weesa several times and were the shipping to Florida or even Texas not so high would have done so more often.
I would point out that their estimates are somewhat Pie in the Sky. However they do post the realizations for the last five auctions on-line so it is a good idea to check out similar material.

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02 Mar 2016
12:18:05am

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Hi Everyone;

I believe that Theresa has a used one in her collection. Linn's even wrote an article about her!Applause

Or did I just wake up from a 25 year nap?

Just dreamin'....
TuskenRaider

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I think Theresa found one in a kiloware mix.

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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Yes, she did... If I remember correctly there was also a write up in Linn's about it.

http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9628#66436

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02 Mar 2016
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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…


Captain Jack White site:www.linns.com

Linn's ... Ireland withdraws stamp over image dispute (20140131)

Linn's ... Ireland plans revised version of withdrawn stamp (20140408)

Linn's ... Photograph removed from revised version of withdrawn Irish Citizen Army stamp (20140425)

Ireland @ StampWorld

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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02 Mar 2016
12:41:06pm

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Yes - I do have a used copy and every once in a while my Cap'n Jack pops up in the upper left corner here.

I sure don't plan to sell it because I only need one more seahorse to have a complete used collection. I can't find a used copy of that darn elusive 10 shilling seahorse that looks like it has a genuine cancel - too many have courtesy cancels.


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02 Mar 2016
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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Hey bobstamp thanks for sharing this!

Theresa, I had never heard the story behind this modern rarity and to learn that you found a used copy in a batch of Kiloware is outstanding! That's the type of collecting story I love to hear.

Believe it or not, I find myself paying attention to the stamps in the upper left corner. Some I see over and over but I've never seen that one. I love the revolving stamp up there.

Ernie

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02 Mar 2016
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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Hi Everyone;

Hey Ernie, I found one of my most valuable stamps in Kiloware also. It is a machin that is printed
in two colors. The lighter of the two blues is missing.

It's only worth $260+ tho....
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15 May 2016
11:41:33am

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Considering how quickly this issue was withdrawn that's a remarkable find! Congratulations.

A top margin MNH strip of 3 sold for €1,500 in Dublin last January.


Auction Image.
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Lot description.
Image Not Found.


OK it didn't reach the €2,000 estimate but still a nice return for a €1.80 outlay. Surprise


For an Irish Times article on some background to the error, people might be interested in the following;

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/dublin-family-claims-mustachioed-mystery-man-on-stamp-1.1667660



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11:44:52am

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Thanks for sharing that link - a great read!

Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?

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15 May 2016
11:55:59am

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?

Didn't want to mention the Auction House in case I was contravening rules Angel ........ it was Macdonnel Whyte Ltd on 23/01/2016

John

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15 May 2016
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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

Are there known forgeries of this? I may be dreaming, but I recall seeing something like this in HOARD #1. Maybe worth a serious look on a crappy Sunday afternoon?

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15 May 2016
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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

"Which auction house sold that strip of 3? [b] Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps? [/b]"




The fellow from Cork (Padraig O'Shea of Ravenstamps), was certainly ahead of the posse Theresa see link below;

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/collector-pays-3000-for-9-sheet-of-withdrawn-stamps-257081.html


Not sure if he was upset at being referred to as a collector though Happy


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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

David - This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes. But it never hurts to ask!

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15 May 2016
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re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

"This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes..."



Right!

Now that I think of it I may have been having a vision of ikeyPikey in his avatar or thinking of my New Zealand ANZAC stamps. I'll still look, just not today now!


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25 Jul 2016
10:41:11am

re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…

The following are for auction in Dublin on August 6th.

The second item may be the sheet referred to above ?

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Image Not Found


Seems to be a few of these about, obviously not many.


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Whew - pricey starting bids. Thanks for sharing this info!

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