"Ireland VF used example of the screamingly rare January 23rd 2014 issue "Irish Citizen Army" commemorative. The stamp was on sale for 10 minutes, then withdrawn, as it was uncertain as to whether it was the correct image of Captain Jack White as depicted on the stamp. Very few escaped the post office. Estimates are in the low teens for the number of known mint examples and around the same numbers for the used examples that have surfaced. Needless to say that this stamp is missing from 99.9% of Irish collections. Includes catalogue info and several articles. Speculative 2016 Scott US $900.00."
So, did An Post ever resolve the "certainty" one way or the other? And if it is determined the picture is correct, do they re-release the withdrawn stamps, or have they been destroyed?
Just wonderin' while I'm wanderin'. (with apologies to Tusken Raider)
Ted
I have used Weesa several times and were the shipping to Florida or even Texas not so high would have done so more often.
I would point out that their estimates are somewhat Pie in the Sky. However they do post the realizations for the last five auctions on-line so it is a good idea to check out similar material.
Hi Everyone;
I believe that Theresa has a used one in her collection. Linn's even wrote an article about her!
Or did I just wake up from a 25 year nap?
Just dreamin'....
TuskenRaider
I think Theresa found one in a kiloware mix.
Yes, she did... If I remember correctly there was also a write up in Linn's about it.
http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9628#66436
Captain Jack White site:www.linns.com
Linn's ... Ireland withdraws stamp over image dispute (20140131)
Linn's ... Ireland plans revised version of withdrawn stamp (20140408)
Linn's ... Photograph removed from revised version of withdrawn Irish Citizen Army stamp (20140425)
Ireland @ StampWorld
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
Yes - I do have a used copy and every once in a while my Cap'n Jack pops up in the upper left corner here.
I sure don't plan to sell it because I only need one more seahorse to have a complete used collection. I can't find a used copy of that darn elusive 10 shilling seahorse that looks like it has a genuine cancel - too many have courtesy cancels.
Hey bobstamp thanks for sharing this!
Theresa, I had never heard the story behind this modern rarity and to learn that you found a used copy in a batch of Kiloware is outstanding! That's the type of collecting story I love to hear.
Believe it or not, I find myself paying attention to the stamps in the upper left corner. Some I see over and over but I've never seen that one. I love the revolving stamp up there.
Ernie
Hi Everyone;
Hey Ernie, I found one of my most valuable stamps in Kiloware also. It is a machin that is printed
in two colors. The lighter of the two blues is missing.
It's only worth $260+ tho....
TuskenRaider
Considering how quickly this issue was withdrawn that's a remarkable find! Congratulations.
A top margin MNH strip of 3 sold for €1,500 in Dublin last January.
Auction Image.
Lot description.
.
OK it didn't reach the €2,000 estimate but still a nice return for a €1.80 outlay.
For an Irish Times article on some background to the error, people might be interested in the following;
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/dublin-family-claims-mustachioed-mystery-man-on-stamp-1.1667660
John
Thanks for sharing that link - a great read!
Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?
Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?
Didn't want to mention the Auction House in case I was contravening rules ........ it was Macdonnel Whyte Ltd on 23/01/2016
John
Are there known forgeries of this? I may be dreaming, but I recall seeing something like this in HOARD #1. Maybe worth a serious look on a crappy Sunday afternoon?
"Which auction house sold that strip of 3? [b] Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps? [/b]"
David - This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes. But it never hurts to ask!
Can you post a picture of the one stamp you are missing? I'll keep an eye out for it.
"This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes..."
The following are for auction in Dublin on August 6th.
The second item may be the sheet referred to above ?
Seems to be a few of these about, obviously not many.
John
Whew - pricey starting bids. Thanks for sharing this info!
If you were hoping to complete your Ireland collection, here's a deal for you! Maybe. If you have deep pockets and work fast. I suspect the stamps won't last long, even at the starting price of U.S. $1,260:
Weeda Stamps, a well-known dealer in Victoria, BC is offering the stamps in their new Dutch auction. Here's their explanation:
"Ireland VF used example of the screamingly rare January 23rd 2014 issue "Irish Citizen Army" commemorative. The stamp was on sale for 10 minutes, then withdrawn, as it was uncertain as to whether it was the correct image of Captain Jack White as depicted on the stamp. Very few escaped the post office. Estimates are in the low teens for the number of known mint examples and around the same numbers for the used examples that have surfaced. Needless to say that this stamp is missing from 99.9% of Irish collections. Includes catalogue info and several articles. Speculative 2016 Scott US $900.00."
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
So, did An Post ever resolve the "certainty" one way or the other? And if it is determined the picture is correct, do they re-release the withdrawn stamps, or have they been destroyed?
Just wonderin' while I'm wanderin'. (with apologies to Tusken Raider)
Ted
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
I have used Weesa several times and were the shipping to Florida or even Texas not so high would have done so more often.
I would point out that their estimates are somewhat Pie in the Sky. However they do post the realizations for the last five auctions on-line so it is a good idea to check out similar material.
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Hi Everyone;
I believe that Theresa has a used one in her collection. Linn's even wrote an article about her!
Or did I just wake up from a 25 year nap?
Just dreamin'....
TuskenRaider
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
I think Theresa found one in a kiloware mix.
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Yes, she did... If I remember correctly there was also a write up in Linn's about it.
http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9628#66436
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Captain Jack White site:www.linns.com
Linn's ... Ireland withdraws stamp over image dispute (20140131)
Linn's ... Ireland plans revised version of withdrawn stamp (20140408)
Linn's ... Photograph removed from revised version of withdrawn Irish Citizen Army stamp (20140425)
Ireland @ StampWorld
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Yes - I do have a used copy and every once in a while my Cap'n Jack pops up in the upper left corner here.
I sure don't plan to sell it because I only need one more seahorse to have a complete used collection. I can't find a used copy of that darn elusive 10 shilling seahorse that looks like it has a genuine cancel - too many have courtesy cancels.
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Hey bobstamp thanks for sharing this!
Theresa, I had never heard the story behind this modern rarity and to learn that you found a used copy in a batch of Kiloware is outstanding! That's the type of collecting story I love to hear.
Believe it or not, I find myself paying attention to the stamps in the upper left corner. Some I see over and over but I've never seen that one. I love the revolving stamp up there.
Ernie
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Hi Everyone;
Hey Ernie, I found one of my most valuable stamps in Kiloware also. It is a machin that is printed
in two colors. The lighter of the two blues is missing.
It's only worth $260+ tho....
TuskenRaider
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Considering how quickly this issue was withdrawn that's a remarkable find! Congratulations.
A top margin MNH strip of 3 sold for €1,500 in Dublin last January.
Auction Image.
Lot description.
.
OK it didn't reach the €2,000 estimate but still a nice return for a €1.80 outlay.
For an Irish Times article on some background to the error, people might be interested in the following;
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/dublin-family-claims-mustachioed-mystery-man-on-stamp-1.1667660
John
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Thanks for sharing that link - a great read!
Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Which auction house sold that strip of 3? Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps?
Didn't want to mention the Auction House in case I was contravening rules ........ it was Macdonnel Whyte Ltd on 23/01/2016
John
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Are there known forgeries of this? I may be dreaming, but I recall seeing something like this in HOARD #1. Maybe worth a serious look on a crappy Sunday afternoon?
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
"Which auction house sold that strip of 3? [b] Was it the fellow in Cork - um Raven stamps? [/b]"
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
David - This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes. But it never hurts to ask!
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Can you post a picture of the one stamp you are missing? I'll keep an eye out for it.
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
"This is a very new issue - I doubt it would show up in the hordes..."
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
The following are for auction in Dublin on August 6th.
The second item may be the sheet referred to above ?
Seems to be a few of these about, obviously not many.
John
re: Good luck in completing your Ireland collection…
Whew - pricey starting bids. Thanks for sharing this info!