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Here is the second group. The first cover is a stampless cover from Kingston, RI with a red 5 rate marking.
This cover has a patent cancel from Buffalo, NY.
Another area I collect is Railroad markings. This has an Wm Sons & Ash AGT CDS with a letter "E" indicating an eastbound train.
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Vince,
Any historical background on Wm Sons & Ash AGT?
And what does the AGT stand for?
Thanks in advance for the info!
Randy
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Here are the last three covers for tonight.
This is a third class marking from Washington, D.C.
This is a Large Boston Negative 5 in square.
Here is the last cover for tonight. It is a negative "X" from Hartford, CT.
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Hi Randy, The AGT stands for agent.
Here is a quote from "U.S. Route and Station Agent Postmarks" by C.L.Towle, copyright 1986.
"Local Agent-A Post Office Dept. employee stationed at a junction point between railways, or a large city, to receive and deliver mail between different railroads, as well as the local post office. In Later years he cancelled mail posted at station boxes or received it in uncancelled condition. Typical points at which local agents were employed were Agusta, GA, Elmira, NY and Richmond IN."
Wm Sons & Ash is an abbreviation for Williamson's and Ashland which I believe is the name of the rail road.
I will check if I have any other information on Wm Sons & Ash AGT.
Vince
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Here are a few new covers in my collection I'd like to share.
This cover is a stampless from Brattleboro, VT. The numeral '3' has the word 'Paid' incised in it.
This is another unusual paid 3 on a Folded Letter Sheet (FLS), 1853. Below the "paid 3' are the letters 'cts'.
This is another FLS from Utica, NY with Roman Numeral V. The CDS is not uncommon, it can be found on covers with numbers or Roman numerals for the different rates at the time. I like this cover because it is a clean with nice strikes, I consider it a gem.
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Very interesting. I have a few 19th century covers but just common postmarks. The special cancellations makes for some interesting study.
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Cool! I like the one with the "Paid" inset! It's unique! Someone probably sat down and carved it!
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Here are a few more covers I recently purchased.
'76' cancel from Gloucester, mass.
Pretty 'Paid' in arch above '3'.
Inverted negative '76' from Lancaster, PA.
Upright scan of '76' cancel.
Nice 'Free' cancel from Utica, NY to Postmaster of Hogansburgh. Here is some information on William Hogan.
"Hogan, William (1792-1874) — of Hogansburg, Franklin County, N.Y. Born in England, July 17, 1792. Member of New York state assembly from Franklin County, 1823; state court judge in New York, 1829; U.S. Representative from New York 19th District, 1831-33. Died November 25, 1874 (age 82 years, 131 days). Interment at Trinity Churchyard, Manhattan, N.Y"
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This group of covers are not new, I came across them while I was organizing my stampless covers.
Red Utica, NY Free April 14, 1836
Blue Hollidaysburg, PA December 1, 1847 negative 5 in circle
Red Greensboro, N.C October 9, 1846 negative 10 in circle
Red Troy, NY November 30, 1821 Free
Black Washington, DC August 26, 1837 Post Office Department Official Business, 1st Assistant Postmaster General, L.D. Jacobs
Red Washington, DC March 26, 1847 Post Office Department official Business 2nd Assistant Postmaster General, W.J. Brown
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Love the Mar 26, 1847 cancellation!
By that time, production of the first postage stamp must have already been underway, in prep for issuance on July 1, 1847.
-Paul
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"By that time, production of the first postage stamp must have already been underway, in prep for issuance on July 1, 1847."
Which brings up the question... I've seen stampless covers all the way into the 1850s. When was there a mandate that post offices needed to use stamps?
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Here are a few more covers with fancy "paid 3".
Joliet, Il June 27, Paid 3 "cts"
Bridge, CT "paid" incised in 3.
Penningtonville, PA 'paid" incised 3.
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Hey Vince,
NICE STUFF! That Penningtonville to Paradise cover is a BEAUT!
Here's a cover in my collection:
From Pennsville, Ohio to Penningtonville. Penningtonville became Atglen, in 1876. Since both our Penningtonville covers are stampless, they were probably posted much, much earlier than 1876! Atglen is a very small town a few miles from where I lived for many years. I still pass through Atglen on a regular basis...
Some backstory on my cover:
Thomas Wood bred Chester White hogs (named for Chester County, PA) and sold over 4000 breeding animals between 1854 and 1874, earning an average of $400 each (in today's dollars) according to manuscripts at the Chester County Historical Society. That works out to about $80,000 a year, so he was QUITE a successful seedstock producer.
Wood received the award for Best Swine in 1856 at the US Agricultural Society exhibit in Philadelphia. In June, 1860, he proclaimed that had sold Chester Whites to "all states in the Union except Oregon". On December 20, 1862, he sold a three-year-old breeding sow for $42.50, almost $1200 in today's dollars. That's about 4X the going price for breeding females today!
I did a little more research on Pennsville, Ohio. There was a hog breeder from there named J.E. Link. He exhibited a Chester White sow named Link's Pride that farrowed a litter of 14 pigs on October 1, 1911.
Maybe the sender of this letter was J.E.'s father...
"In all parts of our country from Maine to Texas, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, the grunt of the Chester County hog may be heard."
-Paul
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I picked up some new covers at the Sarasota last week. They fit into some of my cf my collecting areas. The first four are from New Orleans with different geometric cancels. New Orleans had a variety of fancy cancels and I find a lot of them on foreign mail especially to France.
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Here is the second group. The first cover is a stampless cover from Kingston, RI with a red 5 rate marking.
This cover has a patent cancel from Buffalo, NY.
Another area I collect is Railroad markings. This has an Wm Sons & Ash AGT CDS with a letter "E" indicating an eastbound train.
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Vince,
Any historical background on Wm Sons & Ash AGT?
And what does the AGT stand for?
Thanks in advance for the info!
Randy
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Here are the last three covers for tonight.
This is a third class marking from Washington, D.C.
This is a Large Boston Negative 5 in square.
Here is the last cover for tonight. It is a negative "X" from Hartford, CT.
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Hi Randy, The AGT stands for agent.
Here is a quote from "U.S. Route and Station Agent Postmarks" by C.L.Towle, copyright 1986.
"Local Agent-A Post Office Dept. employee stationed at a junction point between railways, or a large city, to receive and deliver mail between different railroads, as well as the local post office. In Later years he cancelled mail posted at station boxes or received it in uncancelled condition. Typical points at which local agents were employed were Agusta, GA, Elmira, NY and Richmond IN."
Wm Sons & Ash is an abbreviation for Williamson's and Ashland which I believe is the name of the rail road.
I will check if I have any other information on Wm Sons & Ash AGT.
Vince
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Here are a few new covers in my collection I'd like to share.
This cover is a stampless from Brattleboro, VT. The numeral '3' has the word 'Paid' incised in it.
This is another unusual paid 3 on a Folded Letter Sheet (FLS), 1853. Below the "paid 3' are the letters 'cts'.
This is another FLS from Utica, NY with Roman Numeral V. The CDS is not uncommon, it can be found on covers with numbers or Roman numerals for the different rates at the time. I like this cover because it is a clean with nice strikes, I consider it a gem.
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Very interesting. I have a few 19th century covers but just common postmarks. The special cancellations makes for some interesting study.
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Cool! I like the one with the "Paid" inset! It's unique! Someone probably sat down and carved it!
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Here are a few more covers I recently purchased.
'76' cancel from Gloucester, mass.
Pretty 'Paid' in arch above '3'.
Inverted negative '76' from Lancaster, PA.
Upright scan of '76' cancel.
Nice 'Free' cancel from Utica, NY to Postmaster of Hogansburgh. Here is some information on William Hogan.
"Hogan, William (1792-1874) — of Hogansburg, Franklin County, N.Y. Born in England, July 17, 1792. Member of New York state assembly from Franklin County, 1823; state court judge in New York, 1829; U.S. Representative from New York 19th District, 1831-33. Died November 25, 1874 (age 82 years, 131 days). Interment at Trinity Churchyard, Manhattan, N.Y"
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
This group of covers are not new, I came across them while I was organizing my stampless covers.
Red Utica, NY Free April 14, 1836
Blue Hollidaysburg, PA December 1, 1847 negative 5 in circle
Red Greensboro, N.C October 9, 1846 negative 10 in circle
Red Troy, NY November 30, 1821 Free
Black Washington, DC August 26, 1837 Post Office Department Official Business, 1st Assistant Postmaster General, L.D. Jacobs
Red Washington, DC March 26, 1847 Post Office Department official Business 2nd Assistant Postmaster General, W.J. Brown
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Love the Mar 26, 1847 cancellation!
By that time, production of the first postage stamp must have already been underway, in prep for issuance on July 1, 1847.
-Paul
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
"By that time, production of the first postage stamp must have already been underway, in prep for issuance on July 1, 1847."
Which brings up the question... I've seen stampless covers all the way into the 1850s. When was there a mandate that post offices needed to use stamps?
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
July 1,1855
https://stamporama.com/articles/display_article.php?id=RABkfQrEAUZb.
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re: New covers in my collection part 2
Here are a few more covers with fancy "paid 3".
Joliet, Il June 27, Paid 3 "cts"
Bridge, CT "paid" incised in 3.
Penningtonville, PA 'paid" incised 3.
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Hey Vince,
NICE STUFF! That Penningtonville to Paradise cover is a BEAUT!
Here's a cover in my collection:
From Pennsville, Ohio to Penningtonville. Penningtonville became Atglen, in 1876. Since both our Penningtonville covers are stampless, they were probably posted much, much earlier than 1876! Atglen is a very small town a few miles from where I lived for many years. I still pass through Atglen on a regular basis...
Some backstory on my cover:
Thomas Wood bred Chester White hogs (named for Chester County, PA) and sold over 4000 breeding animals between 1854 and 1874, earning an average of $400 each (in today's dollars) according to manuscripts at the Chester County Historical Society. That works out to about $80,000 a year, so he was QUITE a successful seedstock producer.
Wood received the award for Best Swine in 1856 at the US Agricultural Society exhibit in Philadelphia. In June, 1860, he proclaimed that had sold Chester Whites to "all states in the Union except Oregon". On December 20, 1862, he sold a three-year-old breeding sow for $42.50, almost $1200 in today's dollars. That's about 4X the going price for breeding females today!
I did a little more research on Pennsville, Ohio. There was a hog breeder from there named J.E. Link. He exhibited a Chester White sow named Link's Pride that farrowed a litter of 14 pigs on October 1, 1911.
Maybe the sender of this letter was J.E.'s father...
"In all parts of our country from Maine to Texas, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, the grunt of the Chester County hog may be heard."
-Paul
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