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Strider
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10 Feb 2016
07:14:29am
I'm thinking of starting another collection of Scandinavia. I'm now considering Finland after independence. I already have a rather random lot of the stamps, both prewar and relatively modern, but I can't decide on a cutoff period for a more structured collection. Normally, political events provide obvious start or stopping dates, or for kingdoms, the different reigns. Thus I have a collection of Sweden's Gustaf V and of Iceland's dual kingdom. And France's Third republic (though so far I'm a bit light on the early stuff).

I've had a look at Gibbons, but I haven't found a logical period or a cut off moment for Finland after 1919. Maybe the 25 years of President Urho Kekkonen - 1956-82? Just picking a date seems a bit arbitrary.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
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youpiao
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10 Feb 2016
07:26:27am
re: Moving into Finland

Up to the end of the 20th century? That's my cutoff point for any of my modern collections.

Ted

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Guthrum
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10 Feb 2016
08:20:26am
re: Moving into Finland

I've been doing a lot of trawling through (online) European catalogues recently, and one thread seems common to almost every country: the use of email on the world wide web, from whichever year in the late 1990s you care to date it, was a massive influence on the release of postage stamps.

These obviously became increasingly redundant. As they did so, countries responded by releasing ever more miniature sheets, souvenir sheets and other collector-bait, including large numbers of 'topical' issues more or less irrelevant to the country of issue.

Therefore, if you want a tidy date, 2000 seems quite appropriate. You can then choose whether or not to include the plethora of 'millennium' sheets and issues produced by many countries in that year, of which the Royal Mail in Britain was one of the most egregious propagators.

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Strider
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10 Feb 2016
09:16:49am
re: Moving into Finland

Hmmm.. 1919 - 1999 would mean 1388 stamps, if SG numbers and my arithmetic are right! Whereas Sweden's King Gustav V has only 260 stamps. This would make Finland a cuckoo in the nest. Food for thought.

To turn to your point about the advent of email, Ian, things have been made even more difficult for Royal Mail by the mobile phone and texting.

I wonder what proportion of total stamp sales relate to material bought by collectors rather than for use in real postage. This figure will differ from country to country, I suppose. In other words, does increasing the collector market actually help Royal Mail to stay solvent - or is it the King Canute story all over again?

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Madbaker
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10 Feb 2016
07:23:32pm
re: Moving into Finland

I checked out Keijo's blog (stampcollectingblog.com) since his collections is quite detailed.

Unfortunately (for you, not the Finns), the government looks quite stable. He lists the grand duchy of Finland ( till 1917) and Finland.

Some local stamps during that time period but that's it.

This may be more technical than political, but the Facit catalogue has quite a write up about how stamp production changed in 1954 and again in 1967. Maybe that could be a delimiter?

Finland 1917 - 1954 is approx 361 stamps.

Finland 1954 - 1967 is approx 195 stamps.

Mark

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youpiao
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11 Feb 2016
02:55:23am
re: Moving into Finland

Or, stop at the year of your birth.

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11 Feb 2016
10:45:36am
re: Moving into Finland

Being a Finn I'd say you've got three options here:

- collect up to 1917 (the Finnish independence)
- collect up to 1963 (out with the 'old markka' and in with the 'new markka')
- collect up to 2001 (end of markka-era, beginning of Euro)

Personally I'd go with the second option.

-keijo-

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Madbaker
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11 Feb 2016
02:57:20pm
re: Moving into Finland

Glad you chimed in, Keijo! Local knowledge helps. Happy

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11 Feb 2016
04:13:16pm
re: Moving into Finland

You could collect stamps issued during WWI or WWII or the period in between the wars.

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Guthrum
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11 Feb 2016
05:59:51pm
re: Moving into Finland

My WW2 Finland collection runs to 80 stamps, which go onto nearly 8 pages in the album. However, my start-stop dates are strictly UK (3.9.39-8.5.45), which does not exactly correspond with Finland's rather complicated involvement in that conflict.

There are some post-war Finnish stamps which reference, for example, the Winter War, but for the most part I get the impression that those years are, for the Finns, best left alone. They were in an impossible position.

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ikeyPikey
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11 Mar 2016
07:02:09pm
re: Moving into Finland

From the OP:

"... I'm now considering Finland after independence ..."



Linn's ... On eve of independence Finland gave thought to stamps (20160303)

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Stas

18 Nov 2017
09:23:04pm
re: Moving into Finland

For me "collect up to 2001 (end of markka-era, beginning of Euro)" looks more interesting.
I can also suggest period up to introducing sticker-stamps. Somehow I do not think of such stamps as about stamps.
Or, until Finland joined European Union (1995).
But all this are rather technical divisions, as above mentioned.

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mitoneu

20 Nov 2017
04:47:37pm

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re: Moving into Finland

In general, I decided to have most of my country collections in the span 1900-2000. The earlier stamps are quite difficult to get through exchanges and buying them is, in general, outside my finantial possibility. After 2000, most of the countries started to print too many stamps to keep up collecting them... (like Japan)

There are some exceptions which I tend to continue up to 2015. Most countries in which letter-writing is still active, like US, GB, Germany, Switzerland and Italy.

On the other hand, I do collect the regular issues of most countries, even if after 2000. These type of stamps are more interesting and more frequently used (by instance, the French Mariannes)

AS always, any form of making your collection is valid, as it is principally for your fun!

Best regards, Miguel


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Strider

10 Feb 2016
07:14:29am

I'm thinking of starting another collection of Scandinavia. I'm now considering Finland after independence. I already have a rather random lot of the stamps, both prewar and relatively modern, but I can't decide on a cutoff period for a more structured collection. Normally, political events provide obvious start or stopping dates, or for kingdoms, the different reigns. Thus I have a collection of Sweden's Gustaf V and of Iceland's dual kingdom. And France's Third republic (though so far I'm a bit light on the early stuff).

I've had a look at Gibbons, but I haven't found a logical period or a cut off moment for Finland after 1919. Maybe the 25 years of President Urho Kekkonen - 1956-82? Just picking a date seems a bit arbitrary.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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youpiao

10 Feb 2016
07:26:27am

re: Moving into Finland

Up to the end of the 20th century? That's my cutoff point for any of my modern collections.

Ted

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Guthrum

10 Feb 2016
08:20:26am

re: Moving into Finland

I've been doing a lot of trawling through (online) European catalogues recently, and one thread seems common to almost every country: the use of email on the world wide web, from whichever year in the late 1990s you care to date it, was a massive influence on the release of postage stamps.

These obviously became increasingly redundant. As they did so, countries responded by releasing ever more miniature sheets, souvenir sheets and other collector-bait, including large numbers of 'topical' issues more or less irrelevant to the country of issue.

Therefore, if you want a tidy date, 2000 seems quite appropriate. You can then choose whether or not to include the plethora of 'millennium' sheets and issues produced by many countries in that year, of which the Royal Mail in Britain was one of the most egregious propagators.

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Strider

10 Feb 2016
09:16:49am

re: Moving into Finland

Hmmm.. 1919 - 1999 would mean 1388 stamps, if SG numbers and my arithmetic are right! Whereas Sweden's King Gustav V has only 260 stamps. This would make Finland a cuckoo in the nest. Food for thought.

To turn to your point about the advent of email, Ian, things have been made even more difficult for Royal Mail by the mobile phone and texting.

I wonder what proportion of total stamp sales relate to material bought by collectors rather than for use in real postage. This figure will differ from country to country, I suppose. In other words, does increasing the collector market actually help Royal Mail to stay solvent - or is it the King Canute story all over again?

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Madbaker

10 Feb 2016
07:23:32pm

re: Moving into Finland

I checked out Keijo's blog (stampcollectingblog.com) since his collections is quite detailed.

Unfortunately (for you, not the Finns), the government looks quite stable. He lists the grand duchy of Finland ( till 1917) and Finland.

Some local stamps during that time period but that's it.

This may be more technical than political, but the Facit catalogue has quite a write up about how stamp production changed in 1954 and again in 1967. Maybe that could be a delimiter?

Finland 1917 - 1954 is approx 361 stamps.

Finland 1954 - 1967 is approx 195 stamps.

Mark

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youpiao

11 Feb 2016
02:55:23am

re: Moving into Finland

Or, stop at the year of your birth.

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Collecting the world 1840 to date - one stamp at a time!
11 Feb 2016
10:45:36am

re: Moving into Finland

Being a Finn I'd say you've got three options here:

- collect up to 1917 (the Finnish independence)
- collect up to 1963 (out with the 'old markka' and in with the 'new markka')
- collect up to 2001 (end of markka-era, beginning of Euro)

Personally I'd go with the second option.

-keijo-

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Madbaker

11 Feb 2016
02:57:20pm

re: Moving into Finland

Glad you chimed in, Keijo! Local knowledge helps. Happy

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rvangorder

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11 Feb 2016
04:13:16pm

re: Moving into Finland

You could collect stamps issued during WWI or WWII or the period in between the wars.

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Guthrum

11 Feb 2016
05:59:51pm

re: Moving into Finland

My WW2 Finland collection runs to 80 stamps, which go onto nearly 8 pages in the album. However, my start-stop dates are strictly UK (3.9.39-8.5.45), which does not exactly correspond with Finland's rather complicated involvement in that conflict.

There are some post-war Finnish stamps which reference, for example, the Winter War, but for the most part I get the impression that those years are, for the Finns, best left alone. They were in an impossible position.

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ikeyPikey

11 Mar 2016
07:02:09pm

re: Moving into Finland

From the OP:

"... I'm now considering Finland after independence ..."



Linn's ... On eve of independence Finland gave thought to stamps (20160303)

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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"I collect stamps today precisely the way I collected stamps when I was ten years old."
Stas

18 Nov 2017
09:23:04pm

re: Moving into Finland

For me "collect up to 2001 (end of markka-era, beginning of Euro)" looks more interesting.
I can also suggest period up to introducing sticker-stamps. Somehow I do not think of such stamps as about stamps.
Or, until Finland joined European Union (1995).
But all this are rather technical divisions, as above mentioned.

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mitoneu

20 Nov 2017
04:47:37pm

Approvals

re: Moving into Finland

In general, I decided to have most of my country collections in the span 1900-2000. The earlier stamps are quite difficult to get through exchanges and buying them is, in general, outside my finantial possibility. After 2000, most of the countries started to print too many stamps to keep up collecting them... (like Japan)

There are some exceptions which I tend to continue up to 2015. Most countries in which letter-writing is still active, like US, GB, Germany, Switzerland and Italy.

On the other hand, I do collect the regular issues of most countries, even if after 2000. These type of stamps are more interesting and more frequently used (by instance, the French Mariannes)

AS always, any form of making your collection is valid, as it is principally for your fun!

Best regards, Miguel


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