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United States/Stamps : 147?

 

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carabop

07 Feb 2016
12:20:33am
How can I tell what stamp exactly this is? I know it is not 136 because it has no Grill.

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07 Feb 2016
07:54:55am
re: 147?

It could be Scott #158 or #184. It shows the secret mark on the left ribbon very well. It depends on what paper it is printed on. Hard paper #158 Continental Bank Note Company if on soft paper #184 American Bank Note Company.

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carabop

07 Feb 2016
10:29:00am
re: 147?

Vinman could you point out this secret mark you speak of. I read about it but was confused as to what I was trying to look for.

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07 Feb 2016
01:39:10pm
re: 147?

I can't, it's a secret.Laughing

At the bottom of the stamp there is a ribbon with the words three cents. The left ribbon has two tails that point to the numeral three and the right side ribbon has two tails that also point to the numeral three

You can find the mark on the ribbon on the left side of the stamp under the letter 'R' of the word three. You can compare the left side to the right side and see that there is a heavier shading line on the bottom of the ribbon. It would be easier to show you but I hope this helps.

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carabop

07 Feb 2016
06:24:16pm
re: 147?

Thank you vinman I did find the secret mark now to figure out the paper. Confused

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Ningpo
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07 Feb 2016
06:59:42pm
re: 147?

This might help:A Guide to Identifying The US Banknote Issues

And here's a little more detail of a #158:


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carabop

07 Feb 2016
09:31:45pm
re: 147?

Thank you, this is where I would love to have a local stamp club. Then I could see the differences.

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07 Feb 2016
10:11:08pm
re: 147?

Agreed. Looks like soft paper. This site is great for a starting point:

http://stampsmarter.com/1847usa/1870identifier.htm

Go to 1870 for your stamp, scroll down to the notes section and click on the "soft ... paper" link or the hard paper link.


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10 Feb 2016
08:00:51am
re: 147?

I disagree with others who think it's soft paper. Shade, impression and paper (perf cut, and the way they separated) indicate Continental paper to me (i.e. Scott 158).

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carabop

10 Feb 2016
06:41:33pm
re: 147?

Any one else care to comment? From looking at it up close I too think it is 158. I don't know if a person could actually tell from the scan what type paper though.

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carabop

10 Feb 2016
09:46:00pm
re: 147?

Yes I do own a few of 231. Thank you for that info I will check that. Very excited to have a stamp that I can compare it to.

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carabop

07 Feb 2016
12:20:33am

How can I tell what stamp exactly this is? I know it is not 136 because it has no Grill.

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vinman

07 Feb 2016
07:54:55am

re: 147?

It could be Scott #158 or #184. It shows the secret mark on the left ribbon very well. It depends on what paper it is printed on. Hard paper #158 Continental Bank Note Company if on soft paper #184 American Bank Note Company.

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carabop

07 Feb 2016
10:29:00am

re: 147?

Vinman could you point out this secret mark you speak of. I read about it but was confused as to what I was trying to look for.

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vinman

07 Feb 2016
01:39:10pm

re: 147?

I can't, it's a secret.Laughing

At the bottom of the stamp there is a ribbon with the words three cents. The left ribbon has two tails that point to the numeral three and the right side ribbon has two tails that also point to the numeral three

You can find the mark on the ribbon on the left side of the stamp under the letter 'R' of the word three. You can compare the left side to the right side and see that there is a heavier shading line on the bottom of the ribbon. It would be easier to show you but I hope this helps.

Vince

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carabop

07 Feb 2016
06:24:16pm

re: 147?

Thank you vinman I did find the secret mark now to figure out the paper. Confused

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Ningpo

07 Feb 2016
06:59:42pm

re: 147?

This might help:A Guide to Identifying The US Banknote Issues

And here's a little more detail of a #158:


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carabop

07 Feb 2016
09:31:45pm

re: 147?

Thank you, this is where I would love to have a local stamp club. Then I could see the differences.

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HungaryForStamps

07 Feb 2016
10:11:08pm

re: 147?

Agreed. Looks like soft paper. This site is great for a starting point:

http://stampsmarter.com/1847usa/1870identifier.htm

Go to 1870 for your stamp, scroll down to the notes section and click on the "soft ... paper" link or the hard paper link.


(Modified by Moderator on 2016-02-08 00:46:17)

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srailkb

10 Feb 2016
08:00:51am

re: 147?

I disagree with others who think it's soft paper. Shade, impression and paper (perf cut, and the way they separated) indicate Continental paper to me (i.e. Scott 158).

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carabop

10 Feb 2016
06:41:33pm

re: 147?

Any one else care to comment? From looking at it up close I too think it is 158. I don't know if a person could actually tell from the scan what type paper though.

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carabop

10 Feb 2016
09:46:00pm

re: 147?

Yes I do own a few of 231. Thank you for that info I will check that. Very excited to have a stamp that I can compare it to.

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