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United States/BOB & Other : Some USA help please

 

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bobgggg

Past President Cortlandt Stamp Club

30 Jan 2016
09:07:33am
I have a stamp, very similar to the 2010 64 cent butterfly stamp.....However...

the stamp has no $$$ value, and is inscribed "" Non- Machinable surcharge..""

Any idea what its for ?


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30 Jan 2016
09:16:06am
re: Some USA help please

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bobgggg

Past President Cortlandt Stamp Club

30 Jan 2016
09:26:14am
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bobgggg

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30 Jan 2016
09:30:47am
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2015 The Eastern Tiger Swallowtail Non-Machineable Surcharge stamp will be issued in sheets of twenty. The words “NON-MACHINEABLE SURCHARGE” on the stamp indicate its usage value. Like a Forever® stamp, this stamp will always be valid for the rate printed on it. The initial price and value for this stamp is 71 cents.


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30 Jan 2016
10:12:16am
re: Some USA help please

If the envelope is too stiff to bend or an odd shape then it is considered non-machinable. In some cases, postal clerks will charge the rate for hand-cancelling your mail. Nice stamp!

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30 Jan 2016
12:34:34pm
re: Some USA help please

Right now, that stamp pays 2 different rates:

-- first class 1 ounce, plus non-machinable surcharge

-- first class 2 ounces

That's because the rate of an additional ounce and the non-machinable surcharge are the same price, $0.22.

I think it's a pretty stamp, and I've used it for both situations.

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30 Jan 2016
11:39:40pm
re: Some USA help please

Until USPS issued that stamp I thought the butterfly series was intended as a non-Love stamp to cover the 2 ounce rate. Since the non-machinable surcharge has been the same as the additional ounce rate for some time, it wasn't obvious what the intent was. The wedding stamps were obvious, and the earlier Love stamps were issued at the 1 ounce and 2 ounce rates. The idea was that wedding invitations with all the inserts would typically be over an ounce, but the reply envelope would only require a 1 ounce stamp. It was common practice to provide SASE envelopes for the RSVP, so similar stamps at the 1 oz and 2 oz rate made sense.

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Tom in Exton, PA

01 Feb 2016
08:57:00pm
re: Some USA help please

I had a stack of postcards advertising our model show that had to go to Canada. Those now cost $1.20, so the clerk sold me those along with regular (49 cent) Forever commemoratives.

I mailed a ton of stuff to Canada and other countries recently, and was concerned about using the unmarked forever stamps. I was wondering if they were valid for international usage.. but no worries. I didn't have any come back.

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01 Feb 2016
10:41:46pm
re: Some USA help please

Speakith the WikiGod:

The Universal Postal Union approved the use of non-denominated stamps on international mail in 1995.

You can read an extensive treatment of the A-G stamps (the first US non-denominated stamps) usage on international mail at:

Non-denominated “A” - “G” Definitive Stamps on International Mail by Tony Wawrukiewicz in Auxilliary Markings October 2011 (9-page PDF)

Pay special attention to his citations from US Postal Bulletins 21146 (May 19, 1978) and 21148 (Jun. 15, 1978), both of which fall into the 'donut hole' between the privately-assembled archive (to 1970) and the USPS official archive (from 2001), to wit:

"The PB 21146 of May 19, 1978 stated: “15¢ ‘A’ stamp intended for domestic use; it may not be used on international mail.” From the PB 21148 of June 15, 1978 we find, “A fully prepaid international mail item bearing non-denominated postage inadvertently entering the U.S. postal system was not to be returned to the sender but instead sent on to the international exchange office for dispatch to its destination.”"



And you can find the current rules here, reformatted to suit my taste, to wit:

" 152.2.d

Nondenominated postage stamps (except for those that bear uniquely domestic markings, such as First-Class Presort, Bulk Rate, Presorted Standard, or Nonprofit Organization) may be affixed to postal items that are sent to foreign countries.

The value of such stamps is linked to either a current or a former domestic rate (e.g., the "H" stamp has a postage value of $0.33).

Since the international postage rates are always higher than the comparable domestic postage rates, mailers who affix a single nondenominated postage stamp to their outbound mailpieces must add additional postage to comply with the international rate schedule.

Note: The nondenominated Breast Cancer Research semipostal stamp, which has a postage value that is equivalent to the domestic rate for a 1-ounce letter, may be used for international mailing purposes."



Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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bobgggg

Past President Cortlandt Stamp Club

30 Jan 2016
09:07:33am

I have a stamp, very similar to the 2010 64 cent butterfly stamp.....However...

the stamp has no $$$ value, and is inscribed "" Non- Machinable surcharge..""

Any idea what its for ?


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dani20

30 Jan 2016
09:16:06am

re: Some USA help please

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bobgggg

Past President Cortlandt Stamp Club

30 Jan 2016
09:26:14am

re: Some USA help please

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bobgggg

Past President Cortlandt Stamp Club

30 Jan 2016
09:30:47am

re: Some USA help please

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2015 The Eastern Tiger Swallowtail Non-Machineable Surcharge stamp will be issued in sheets of twenty. The words “NON-MACHINEABLE SURCHARGE” on the stamp indicate its usage value. Like a Forever® stamp, this stamp will always be valid for the rate printed on it. The initial price and value for this stamp is 71 cents.


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30 Jan 2016
10:12:16am

re: Some USA help please

If the envelope is too stiff to bend or an odd shape then it is considered non-machinable. In some cases, postal clerks will charge the rate for hand-cancelling your mail. Nice stamp!

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Philatarium

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30 Jan 2016
12:34:34pm

re: Some USA help please

Right now, that stamp pays 2 different rates:

-- first class 1 ounce, plus non-machinable surcharge

-- first class 2 ounces

That's because the rate of an additional ounce and the non-machinable surcharge are the same price, $0.22.

I think it's a pretty stamp, and I've used it for both situations.

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larsdog

APS #220693 ATA#57179
30 Jan 2016
11:39:40pm

re: Some USA help please

Until USPS issued that stamp I thought the butterfly series was intended as a non-Love stamp to cover the 2 ounce rate. Since the non-machinable surcharge has been the same as the additional ounce rate for some time, it wasn't obvious what the intent was. The wedding stamps were obvious, and the earlier Love stamps were issued at the 1 ounce and 2 ounce rates. The idea was that wedding invitations with all the inserts would typically be over an ounce, but the reply envelope would only require a 1 ounce stamp. It was common practice to provide SASE envelopes for the RSVP, so similar stamps at the 1 oz and 2 oz rate made sense.

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Tom in Exton, PA
01 Feb 2016
08:57:00pm

re: Some USA help please

I had a stack of postcards advertising our model show that had to go to Canada. Those now cost $1.20, so the clerk sold me those along with regular (49 cent) Forever commemoratives.

I mailed a ton of stuff to Canada and other countries recently, and was concerned about using the unmarked forever stamps. I was wondering if they were valid for international usage.. but no worries. I didn't have any come back.

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ikeyPikey

01 Feb 2016
10:41:46pm

re: Some USA help please

Speakith the WikiGod:

The Universal Postal Union approved the use of non-denominated stamps on international mail in 1995.

You can read an extensive treatment of the A-G stamps (the first US non-denominated stamps) usage on international mail at:

Non-denominated “A” - “G” Definitive Stamps on International Mail by Tony Wawrukiewicz in Auxilliary Markings October 2011 (9-page PDF)

Pay special attention to his citations from US Postal Bulletins 21146 (May 19, 1978) and 21148 (Jun. 15, 1978), both of which fall into the 'donut hole' between the privately-assembled archive (to 1970) and the USPS official archive (from 2001), to wit:

"The PB 21146 of May 19, 1978 stated: “15¢ ‘A’ stamp intended for domestic use; it may not be used on international mail.” From the PB 21148 of June 15, 1978 we find, “A fully prepaid international mail item bearing non-denominated postage inadvertently entering the U.S. postal system was not to be returned to the sender but instead sent on to the international exchange office for dispatch to its destination.”"



And you can find the current rules here, reformatted to suit my taste, to wit:

" 152.2.d

Nondenominated postage stamps (except for those that bear uniquely domestic markings, such as First-Class Presort, Bulk Rate, Presorted Standard, or Nonprofit Organization) may be affixed to postal items that are sent to foreign countries.

The value of such stamps is linked to either a current or a former domestic rate (e.g., the "H" stamp has a postage value of $0.33).

Since the international postage rates are always higher than the comparable domestic postage rates, mailers who affix a single nondenominated postage stamp to their outbound mailpieces must add additional postage to comply with the international rate schedule.

Note: The nondenominated Breast Cancer Research semipostal stamp, which has a postage value that is equivalent to the domestic rate for a 1-ounce letter, may be used for international mailing purposes."



Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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