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whitebuffalo
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29 Jan 2016
09:37:52am
So far I haven't bought or sold anything here, but I am interested. I tried looking through the DB and didn't find the answers. I'm not sure if I missed it or just didn't understand.

Is there a preregistration process for buying and selling on approvals and auctions? I have a PayPal account, is there a process to go through before making a purchase?

I guess to generalize, what has to be done BEFORE one can buy and sell on SOR? I'm mostly interested in buying approvals for now, but would like to be setup to sell approvals also. It sounds like a lot of fun!

Answers or help finding the written info in the DB greatly appreciated.

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29 Jan 2016
09:54:09am
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I believe you're all set! You're a member in good standing with a paypal account so have fun! You're welcome to practice buying by checking out my approvals (haha!!). I warn you, you're going to have lots of fun. You'd have a tough time finding better prices than the ones you'll find here. Have fun!

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29 Jan 2016
10:02:01am

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You don't have to have a PAYPAL account, but it doesn't hurt to have one as an option. If you are selling be sure to mention you take checks (if you so desire - in 35 years of selling I have had less than a dozen bad checks), money orders, cash and MNH postage for those small purchases (though I did get a check here on SOR for 10 cents)

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TribalErnie

29 Jan 2016
10:20:45am
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Not a thing! That's the beauty of it. Start browsing the approval books and click the numbers you want. The seller will then invoice you a week or so later depending on how often they do so.

One word of caution though, I find it helpful to sort of browse or click through the seller's book in its entirety to make sure there's enough in there to justify the postage. The other day there were two really cool stamps that would have fit perfectly into my little topical collection I've started but I had zero interest in the rest of the book. I had clicked before browsing and was on the hook for .30 in stamps with 1.50 in postage. The seller was very cool and said I could wait a week or so and that he would be putting up quite a bit more the following week. That worked out well but I wouldn't want to put them in that "spot" and I wouldn't want to essentially overpay in freight charges. It doesn't seem like a lot of money but if you do that a few times it can add up quickly.

The approvals are great. They're the only way that I've found to enjoy the lower priced, common used stamps. You could go to ebay and buy a boatload of kiloware, get out the 10 stamps you want but then what do you do with the rest? more freight charges? The Jacksonville Stamp Club buys kiloware and gets APS circuit books for all of their meetings but the club meets quite a ways away on work nights and I just don't feel like driving out there.

WB, I would say dive in and buy some approvals; it's fun!

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whitebuffalo
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29 Jan 2016
10:25:41am
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Wow, really! That's all there is to it, huh?

Buy what I want, wait for invoice, make payment, (I prefer PayPal) and wait for delivery?

Post for sale what I want, wait for purchase, send invoice, wait for payment,(again, I prefer PayPal) then ship?

Correct me if I'm wrong in any of this, but if not, that's almost scary easy!!

T, I'm not sure how good my standing is after some of the opinions I've posted in certain areas of late. But, nobody's yelled at me for those opinions, so...Happy Your approvals will be the first place I look.Thumbs Up

Thanks,

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29 Jan 2016
10:31:15am
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Thanks Ernie!

Shipping was another question, does each seller have different charges or is it a flat rate setup? If it varies, is there a way to find those charges prior to purchasing? Same with selling, do you charge a flat rate, or do you base it on where it's being shipped, weight, etc...?

Thanks for the help,

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TribalErnie

29 Jan 2016
10:43:20am
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Shipping varies but not by much. All the sellers seem very reasonable. I haven't seen any that build a "profit center" into shipping costs.

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29 Jan 2016
10:48:04am
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WB, AS A SELLER, if you want to accept Paypal AND want a link placed on your invoice emails when you sent them out, you do need to visit the Members Section and click on Set UP Paypal Option (right column, 3rd item from the bottom). Takes a few seconds to do.

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
11:29:13am
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Before you start buying and selling, please read the rules governing the auction and approval sales platforms. You can easily find this information from the Discussion Boards by clicking on HOME, and then selecting AUCTION or APPROVALS.

If you want AUCTION, click on it, and then when you get to the Auction screen, click on GENERAL. You will find all the information you want there. The other links along the top bar will also provide you with more, but read what's under the GENERAL drop down first.

The approvals are set up a little differently, but click on HELP and you will see the USER GUIDE.

That should pretty much give the information you will need to get started. The Discussion Board contains many discussions stemming from questions members have had on the sales platforms.

Also note the CLASSIFIEDS RULES, which is another way for you to buy, sell, trade, giveaway.

You also can access all this area from the Stamporama home page. You'll see all the Auction and Approval links in the box on the left side of the screen.

After you get a chance to read the information, feel free to send me a message if you have any questions.

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Soundcrest
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29 Jan 2016
11:35:23am

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As for myself, I send invoices off the Monday (sometimes Tuesday) after the weekend. If a buyer wants to wait a week (or sometimes more) I'm OK with that. Paypal will ding you for a fee, but its not all that much. I discourage PAYPAL purchases under $5 for that reason

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29 Jan 2016
12:19:53pm
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When someone sends money using PayPal's "Send to family or friends" option, the receiver is not assessed a fee. And we're all friends, here, right?

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29 Jan 2016
01:12:18pm
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Thanks Michael for the "extra help" offer, and to all, for your input here.

I had thought about the classifieds. With what I have, it seems like a bit much for the classifieds, but not enough to sell long term on the approvals or auctions. With stamps, I tend to be more of a buyer then a seller anyway...Happy

I've bought and sold in another genre/hobby on Ebay, using PayPal for years. So I pretty much know the ropes where they're concerned. I've actually never sold a stamp, anywhere, but have bought a few lots through Ebay over the years. However, the word "fun" never really entered into it.Rolling Eyes I've also used approval services through some of the big name outfits. Great selection, service and quality, but prices can be a bit steep. Not way out of line, but usually over catalog.

I'll get it all figured out over the next few days and look forward to discovering a new (to me) avenue in collecting.

Much appreciated,

WB

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
02:06:15pm
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Considering that there are no fees to sell on SOR, and the rules are relatively simple, this site can give you good practice on learning how to properly sell stamps.

I'll continue speaking in general terms here. In order to properly sell stamps, one must also learn how to properly identify stamps, determine condition, value and other factors. This not only helps achieve successful sales, but will also help collectors when working on their own collections.

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29 Jan 2016
02:26:42pm

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While that is completely true Ted, in the over 500 invoices I have sent out less than a dozen were sent for family and friends. Actually I would think that PAYPAL would catch on to that if any person received a lot of family/friend additions to their account

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29 Jan 2016
03:09:44pm

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WB, don't forget to communicate with the seller. After you have made a purchase, if you are all done, message them and ask for an invoice. Otherwise you will wait until they invoice you. And if you'd like to wait for maybe more books from them, ask for that added time. Communication is the key.

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whitebuffalo
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29 Jan 2016
04:10:44pm
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All sound advice.

Michael, that's part of what's kept me from jumping in with both feet as far as selling. I do wonder about my abilities in those areas. Most of what I would be selling, at first anyway, are MNH stamps that have always been properly stored and kept in glassine envelopes. Beyond those...you're very much correct.

Continued thanks,

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29 Jan 2016
04:43:25pm
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"... I'm not sure how good my standing is after some of the opinions I've posted in certain areas of late ..."



If it will help, WB, I am willing to step up & disapprove of you Cool but I'd rather be playing with my stamps.

I gather from some of the other DB threads that the 'local' practice is that buyers send 'thank you' notes when the goods arrive. Oops. My bad. Uh-oh. My double-bad.

The 'thank you' notes may derive from so many of the sellers being de-accessioning collectors (both the buyers & the sellers are doing each other a favor) ... or from there being a critical mass of Canadians ... but there you have it.

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
04:44:04pm
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That first step can seem to be intimidating.

How about trying this? Rather than create an auction lot or approval book right away, we have a Test message topic in the Discussion Board.

Create a dummy auction listing based on one that you find that someone has listed. Ask people to take a look at it and offer suggestions. You'll be amazed at the help you'll get.

Just remember that those replying will be trying to help you, so they may be stating their personal preferences to you. If they are buyers, take notes. They just might become your buyers.

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
04:46:06pm
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ikey, sometimes I need a couple of drinks just to try to figure out what you said! Hypnotized

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29 Jan 2016
05:03:12pm
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Lemme know when you get there.

Now, how's that for a double entendre?

1) "Lemme know when you get there", eg, get drunk & understand what I posted, above.

2) "Lemme know when you get there", eg, when you get what I am not saying now about your not having gotten there earlier.

Q/ You think its easy to write like this?

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29 Jan 2016
05:45:29pm
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"ikey, sometimes I need a couple of drinks just to try to figure out what you said!"


Even then, all I've figured out is that I may need a couple more drinks to really figure it out.(Make mine Heaven Hill's Larceny, please.)Laughing

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whitebuffalo
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29 Jan 2016
06:02:29pm
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I've known those that had a particular talent for using lots of big words and phrases to say absolutely nothing. Like the drug addicted, alcoholic lawyer I knew some years back. The man could throw words around like manure out of a barn, but damned if I could ever figure out what his point was.Happy

Thanks Michael, I'll consider going that route.

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
07:20:13pm
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That is exactly why they make tequila!

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29 Jan 2016
08:43:59pm
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Tequila! Now that brings back memories. Oh wait...no it doesn't! Thinking I'm sure there are some though, I just can't remember where I put them.

WBHappy

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30 Jan 2016
09:49:56am

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Welcome and have a blast trying to buy and sell. You will find it easy and it gets easier and easier.
If you need any help or have any questions about Approvals, please do not hesitate to message me or post it here in the discussion.
One reminder about shipping charges. You are not allowed to build a profit center in your shipping charges. They should reflect actual postage plus a small supplement, if wanted, for supplies. Not like Ebay, Delcampe etc... This is a Club and we want members to trade, buy and sell, not a commercial site where it is all about profits! Here it is about sharing the hobby with fellow collectors.
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30 Jan 2016
03:07:42pm
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Thanks and I'd want it no other way.

WB

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07 Feb 2016
08:40:47am
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Yea, I did it!

I made my first purchases through the approvals. Filling spaces was never easier and the prices and sellers were great! One might say, I thoroughly approve of the approvals.Thumbs Up

WB

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07 Feb 2016
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I think things like Yukon Jack, Rumpelmans and tequila are ok for people that can handle it. Put the rubber hose down bro..i am leaving !Hurry Up

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
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So far I haven't bought or sold anything here, but I am interested. I tried looking through the DB and didn't find the answers. I'm not sure if I missed it or just didn't understand.

Is there a preregistration process for buying and selling on approvals and auctions? I have a PayPal account, is there a process to go through before making a purchase?

I guess to generalize, what has to be done BEFORE one can buy and sell on SOR? I'm mostly interested in buying approvals for now, but would like to be setup to sell approvals also. It sounds like a lot of fun!

Answers or help finding the written info in the DB greatly appreciated.

WB

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philatelia

29 Jan 2016
09:54:09am

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I believe you're all set! You're a member in good standing with a paypal account so have fun! You're welcome to practice buying by checking out my approvals (haha!!). I warn you, you're going to have lots of fun. You'd have a tough time finding better prices than the ones you'll find here. Have fun!

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Soundcrest

29 Jan 2016
10:02:01am

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You don't have to have a PAYPAL account, but it doesn't hurt to have one as an option. If you are selling be sure to mention you take checks (if you so desire - in 35 years of selling I have had less than a dozen bad checks), money orders, cash and MNH postage for those small purchases (though I did get a check here on SOR for 10 cents)

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TribalErnie

29 Jan 2016
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Not a thing! That's the beauty of it. Start browsing the approval books and click the numbers you want. The seller will then invoice you a week or so later depending on how often they do so.

One word of caution though, I find it helpful to sort of browse or click through the seller's book in its entirety to make sure there's enough in there to justify the postage. The other day there were two really cool stamps that would have fit perfectly into my little topical collection I've started but I had zero interest in the rest of the book. I had clicked before browsing and was on the hook for .30 in stamps with 1.50 in postage. The seller was very cool and said I could wait a week or so and that he would be putting up quite a bit more the following week. That worked out well but I wouldn't want to put them in that "spot" and I wouldn't want to essentially overpay in freight charges. It doesn't seem like a lot of money but if you do that a few times it can add up quickly.

The approvals are great. They're the only way that I've found to enjoy the lower priced, common used stamps. You could go to ebay and buy a boatload of kiloware, get out the 10 stamps you want but then what do you do with the rest? more freight charges? The Jacksonville Stamp Club buys kiloware and gets APS circuit books for all of their meetings but the club meets quite a ways away on work nights and I just don't feel like driving out there.

WB, I would say dive in and buy some approvals; it's fun!

-Ernie

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
10:25:41am

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Wow, really! That's all there is to it, huh?

Buy what I want, wait for invoice, make payment, (I prefer PayPal) and wait for delivery?

Post for sale what I want, wait for purchase, send invoice, wait for payment,(again, I prefer PayPal) then ship?

Correct me if I'm wrong in any of this, but if not, that's almost scary easy!!

T, I'm not sure how good my standing is after some of the opinions I've posted in certain areas of late. But, nobody's yelled at me for those opinions, so...Happy Your approvals will be the first place I look.Thumbs Up

Thanks,

WB

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
10:31:15am

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Thanks Ernie!

Shipping was another question, does each seller have different charges or is it a flat rate setup? If it varies, is there a way to find those charges prior to purchasing? Same with selling, do you charge a flat rate, or do you base it on where it's being shipped, weight, etc...?

Thanks for the help,

WB

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TribalErnie

29 Jan 2016
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Shipping varies but not by much. All the sellers seem very reasonable. I haven't seen any that build a "profit center" into shipping costs.

-Ernie

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29 Jan 2016
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WB, AS A SELLER, if you want to accept Paypal AND want a link placed on your invoice emails when you sent them out, you do need to visit the Members Section and click on Set UP Paypal Option (right column, 3rd item from the bottom). Takes a few seconds to do.

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
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Before you start buying and selling, please read the rules governing the auction and approval sales platforms. You can easily find this information from the Discussion Boards by clicking on HOME, and then selecting AUCTION or APPROVALS.

If you want AUCTION, click on it, and then when you get to the Auction screen, click on GENERAL. You will find all the information you want there. The other links along the top bar will also provide you with more, but read what's under the GENERAL drop down first.

The approvals are set up a little differently, but click on HELP and you will see the USER GUIDE.

That should pretty much give the information you will need to get started. The Discussion Board contains many discussions stemming from questions members have had on the sales platforms.

Also note the CLASSIFIEDS RULES, which is another way for you to buy, sell, trade, giveaway.

You also can access all this area from the Stamporama home page. You'll see all the Auction and Approval links in the box on the left side of the screen.

After you get a chance to read the information, feel free to send me a message if you have any questions.

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29 Jan 2016
11:35:23am

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As for myself, I send invoices off the Monday (sometimes Tuesday) after the weekend. If a buyer wants to wait a week (or sometimes more) I'm OK with that. Paypal will ding you for a fee, but its not all that much. I discourage PAYPAL purchases under $5 for that reason

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29 Jan 2016
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When someone sends money using PayPal's "Send to family or friends" option, the receiver is not assessed a fee. And we're all friends, here, right?

Ted

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
01:12:18pm

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Thanks Michael for the "extra help" offer, and to all, for your input here.

I had thought about the classifieds. With what I have, it seems like a bit much for the classifieds, but not enough to sell long term on the approvals or auctions. With stamps, I tend to be more of a buyer then a seller anyway...Happy

I've bought and sold in another genre/hobby on Ebay, using PayPal for years. So I pretty much know the ropes where they're concerned. I've actually never sold a stamp, anywhere, but have bought a few lots through Ebay over the years. However, the word "fun" never really entered into it.Rolling Eyes I've also used approval services through some of the big name outfits. Great selection, service and quality, but prices can be a bit steep. Not way out of line, but usually over catalog.

I'll get it all figured out over the next few days and look forward to discovering a new (to me) avenue in collecting.

Much appreciated,

WB

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
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Considering that there are no fees to sell on SOR, and the rules are relatively simple, this site can give you good practice on learning how to properly sell stamps.

I'll continue speaking in general terms here. In order to properly sell stamps, one must also learn how to properly identify stamps, determine condition, value and other factors. This not only helps achieve successful sales, but will also help collectors when working on their own collections.

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29 Jan 2016
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While that is completely true Ted, in the over 500 invoices I have sent out less than a dozen were sent for family and friends. Actually I would think that PAYPAL would catch on to that if any person received a lot of family/friend additions to their account

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WB, don't forget to communicate with the seller. After you have made a purchase, if you are all done, message them and ask for an invoice. Otherwise you will wait until they invoice you. And if you'd like to wait for maybe more books from them, ask for that added time. Communication is the key.

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
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All sound advice.

Michael, that's part of what's kept me from jumping in with both feet as far as selling. I do wonder about my abilities in those areas. Most of what I would be selling, at first anyway, are MNH stamps that have always been properly stored and kept in glassine envelopes. Beyond those...you're very much correct.

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29 Jan 2016
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"... I'm not sure how good my standing is after some of the opinions I've posted in certain areas of late ..."



If it will help, WB, I am willing to step up & disapprove of you Cool but I'd rather be playing with my stamps.

I gather from some of the other DB threads that the 'local' practice is that buyers send 'thank you' notes when the goods arrive. Oops. My bad. Uh-oh. My double-bad.

The 'thank you' notes may derive from so many of the sellers being de-accessioning collectors (both the buyers & the sellers are doing each other a favor) ... or from there being a critical mass of Canadians ... but there you have it.

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29 Jan 2016
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That first step can seem to be intimidating.

How about trying this? Rather than create an auction lot or approval book right away, we have a Test message topic in the Discussion Board.

Create a dummy auction listing based on one that you find that someone has listed. Ask people to take a look at it and offer suggestions. You'll be amazed at the help you'll get.

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29 Jan 2016
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ikey, sometimes I need a couple of drinks just to try to figure out what you said! Hypnotized

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29 Jan 2016
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Lemme know when you get there.

Now, how's that for a double entendre?

1) "Lemme know when you get there", eg, get drunk & understand what I posted, above.

2) "Lemme know when you get there", eg, when you get what I am not saying now about your not having gotten there earlier.

Q/ You think its easy to write like this?

Cheers,

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youpiao

29 Jan 2016
05:45:29pm

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"ikey, sometimes I need a couple of drinks just to try to figure out what you said!"


Even then, all I've figured out is that I may need a couple more drinks to really figure it out.(Make mine Heaven Hill's Larceny, please.)Laughing

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
06:02:29pm

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I've known those that had a particular talent for using lots of big words and phrases to say absolutely nothing. Like the drug addicted, alcoholic lawyer I knew some years back. The man could throw words around like manure out of a barn, but damned if I could ever figure out what his point was.Happy

Thanks Michael, I'll consider going that route.

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michael78651

29 Jan 2016
07:20:13pm

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That is exactly why they make tequila!

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whitebuffalo

29 Jan 2016
08:43:59pm

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Tequila! Now that brings back memories. Oh wait...no it doesn't! Thinking I'm sure there are some though, I just can't remember where I put them.

WBHappy

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30 Jan 2016
09:49:56am

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Welcome and have a blast trying to buy and sell. You will find it easy and it gets easier and easier.
If you need any help or have any questions about Approvals, please do not hesitate to message me or post it here in the discussion.
One reminder about shipping charges. You are not allowed to build a profit center in your shipping charges. They should reflect actual postage plus a small supplement, if wanted, for supplies. Not like Ebay, Delcampe etc... This is a Club and we want members to trade, buy and sell, not a commercial site where it is all about profits! Here it is about sharing the hobby with fellow collectors.
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whitebuffalo

30 Jan 2016
03:07:42pm

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Thanks and I'd want it no other way.

WB

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07 Feb 2016
08:40:47am

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Yea, I did it!

I made my first purchases through the approvals. Filling spaces was never easier and the prices and sellers were great! One might say, I thoroughly approve of the approvals.Thumbs Up

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philb

07 Feb 2016
11:59:31am

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I think things like Yukon Jack, Rumpelmans and tequila are ok for people that can handle it. Put the rubber hose down bro..i am leaving !Hurry Up

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