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Europe/Russia : A Couple of Inexplicables

 

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Guthrum
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21 Jan 2016
04:48:23am
That feeling when among billions of internet users not one seems to know what you're talking about? That.

Here's an MS:

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Just below the '50' that СОВТСКОГО should of course read СОВEТСКОГО, as I'm sure you all spotted! It's in the catalogues, but what no-one seems to know is why it has never been satisfactorily explained. How long did it take before sharp-eyed Tajik inspectors spotted the mistake? Was a corrected MS (there is one) rushed out the same day? How come the designer held his job? (He did.) Gibbons can only say "approximately 3/5 of the issue had the spelling error", which is an entirely useless comment. Perhaps you can tell me what it implies?

The second inexplicable may feature a spelling error, or not, as my Uzbek is a bit rusty... It concerns the word at the bottom of this MS:

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FALABANING. Yes, falabaning. I've got the other word, YILLIGI (anniversary), but no online translation can manage Falabaning. I've tried inputting victory, fiftieth, peace, armistice and so forth, to no avail. To all our Uzbek-speaking members - can you help!

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21 Jan 2016
05:06:49am

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Does the letter F exist in cyrillic? Could it be a misprinted cyrillic G instead?

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Guthrum
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21 Jan 2016
06:04:14am
re: A Couple of Inexplicables

Almost right! It turns out to be a G with an apostrophe! Meaning victory. It didn't come up as g'alabaning when I inputted victory earlier today, but there you go. Many thanks for your suggestion.

I'd assumed that Uzbeks had discarded the Greek/Cyrillic 'ph' symbol for a Latin F, rather as Bulgarians have a Latin 'i' rather than the Cyrillic reversed N.

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21 Jan 2016
06:13:40am

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when I input g'alabaning into google translate it says "the victory". Perhaps this definite article made the difference. No idea how the Uzbek language works.

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21 Jan 2016
01:58:47pm
re: A Couple of Inexplicables

According to Wikipedia the letter is Ғ (lower-case ғ) with the middle line crossing the upright in the Uzbek Cyrillic alphabet and Gʻ (lower-case gʻ) with an inverted aphostrophe in the Uzbek Latin alphabet. It has the IPA sound /ʁ/ which sounds like a French "r". Happy

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Guthrum

21 Jan 2016
04:48:23am

That feeling when among billions of internet users not one seems to know what you're talking about? That.

Here's an MS:

Image Not Found Image Not Found

Just below the '50' that СОВТСКОГО should of course read СОВEТСКОГО, as I'm sure you all spotted! It's in the catalogues, but what no-one seems to know is why it has never been satisfactorily explained. How long did it take before sharp-eyed Tajik inspectors spotted the mistake? Was a corrected MS (there is one) rushed out the same day? How come the designer held his job? (He did.) Gibbons can only say "approximately 3/5 of the issue had the spelling error", which is an entirely useless comment. Perhaps you can tell me what it implies?

The second inexplicable may feature a spelling error, or not, as my Uzbek is a bit rusty... It concerns the word at the bottom of this MS:

Image Not Found Image Not Found

FALABANING. Yes, falabaning. I've got the other word, YILLIGI (anniversary), but no online translation can manage Falabaning. I've tried inputting victory, fiftieth, peace, armistice and so forth, to no avail. To all our Uzbek-speaking members - can you help!

I know SOR can succeed where billions have failed!




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21 Jan 2016
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re: A Couple of Inexplicables

Does the letter F exist in cyrillic? Could it be a misprinted cyrillic G instead?

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21 Jan 2016
06:04:14am

re: A Couple of Inexplicables

Almost right! It turns out to be a G with an apostrophe! Meaning victory. It didn't come up as g'alabaning when I inputted victory earlier today, but there you go. Many thanks for your suggestion.

I'd assumed that Uzbeks had discarded the Greek/Cyrillic 'ph' symbol for a Latin F, rather as Bulgarians have a Latin 'i' rather than the Cyrillic reversed N.

One down, one to go!

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21 Jan 2016
06:13:40am

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re: A Couple of Inexplicables

when I input g'alabaning into google translate it says "the victory". Perhaps this definite article made the difference. No idea how the Uzbek language works.

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21 Jan 2016
01:58:47pm

re: A Couple of Inexplicables

According to Wikipedia the letter is Ғ (lower-case ғ) with the middle line crossing the upright in the Uzbek Cyrillic alphabet and Gʻ (lower-case gʻ) with an inverted aphostrophe in the Uzbek Latin alphabet. It has the IPA sound /ʁ/ which sounds like a French "r". Happy

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