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sheepshanks
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19 Jan 2016
08:45:57pm
Just seen this on that other sales site, will someone actually be that stupid to spend what they are asking.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1911-Great-Britian-132b-purple-lemon-CV-225-00-LOW-START-/111756544608?hash=item1a05358a60:g:I2gAAOxyeglTXHbw

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Ningpo
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19 Jan 2016
10:10:16pm
re: Sellers for suckers?

Great Britain

1911 #132b (A69) 13p, purple, lemon, King Edward VII

great SON cancel, great color, great margins

a difficult GEM to find

CV $225.00



That watermark has me stumped:


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ikeyPikey
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20 Jan 2016
12:01:41am
re: Sellers for suckers?

Ningpo! Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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20 Jan 2016
01:05:25am
re: Sellers for suckers?

It could only be better if it was "PSE Graded 98-XF" Surprise

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purrfin2
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20 Jan 2016
05:41:28am
re: Sellers for suckers?

On the serious side, no, really, the serious side.

Why aren't the sellers on eBay describing the stamps anymore? There have been several sellers I've looked into and when I scroll down to the description, it has all this stuff about who they are, where they've shipped to in the world and nothing about the stamp or lot, the condition or any other information. Am I asking too much for a little bit of information about the stamp? Like this one, HINGED AND PAPER RESIDUE? Would that be too much? Or even the watermark, that would've been something. Or am I not looking in the correct area?

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Ningpo
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20 Jan 2016
06:05:53am
re: Sellers for suckers?

Well strangely enough, I was looking at this feeble offering from big eBay seller (and retail outlet) Rushstamps. This is how they list everything. In this case though, they use the scuddy scrap of paper to describe the printing flaw. The trouble is, that scrap doesn't indicate where the flaw is; not helped by the low res scan:


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Sellers like this are just plain lazy and are more concerned about, as purfinn2 put it, who they are and shipping conditions. The first sentence below is always used by this seller, which is neither use nor ornament:


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"DESCRIPTION SAME AS TITLE AND PHOTO/SCAN



CONDITIONS OF SALE

PAYPAL Payments To: ebaysales@rushstamps.co.uk

COMBINED POSTAGE AND PACKING. We are always happy to combine postage on multiple purchases.

WHERE APPLICABLE, DISPLAY CARDS ARE NOT INCLUDED TO SAVE POSTAGE COSTS!

"MIXED CONDITION" LOTS MAY INCLUDE A PROPORTION OF DAMAGED STAMPS AS ORIGINALLY COLLECTED AT THE TIME, AND ARE UNSORTED AND UNCHECKED, AND ARE NOT RETURNABLE.

“AS IS” MEANS WE ARE NOT CERTAIN OF THE ORIGIN OF THE LOT, OR ITS ORIGINALITY OR GENUINENESS, AND THEREFORE THE LOT IS SOLD AT THE BUYERS RISK (CAVEAT EMPTOR).

ALL STAMPS UNMOUNTED MINT (U/M or MNH) UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED OR SHOWN IN PHOTO (MIXED SELECTION/ON PAGES EXCEPTED).

PAYMENT - Payment is required within 10 days of the Auction or Buy It Now items. We prefer PayPal (in £ Sterling, US Dollars or Euros) however Postal Orders or Bank Drafts in Pound Sterling are acceptable. Cheques accepted Payable to "RUSHSTAMPS" (UK cheques allow 7 days - Foreign cheques up to 30 days to clear) When cleared, goods will be dispatched. Cash by Registered/Special Delivery. Foreign Currencies will be converted and credited at the current rate of exchange less any bank charges.
All items are sent at customers own risk unless we use Special Delivery/International Signed For/Recorded Delivery.
WE OBTAIN A RECEIPT OF POSTING ON EVERY SHIPMENT.

ROYAL MAIL POSTAL COSTS (New Lower rates)
UK Shipping - 80p for standard first class up to 100 grams, £2.50 for larger (heavier items).
Signed For - £1.75 (up to 100 gms) or £3.50 (over 100 gms).
Special Delivery/Registered - £6.00 for up to 100 gms and £7.50 minimum for larger lots.
Worldwide Shipping - £1.50 for standard International Air Mail to Europe, or £2.50 minimum for larger (heavier) items.
Other International postal zones are £2.25 for standard Airmail Small Packet, and £3.25 minimum for larger (heavier) items.
£6.50 for International Signed For or £8.00 minimum for larger (heavier) items.
All items/sendings of £50 value and over will be posted with tracking by International Signed For overseas and within the UK by Signed For post unless £100 or over, then by Special Delivery/International Signed For, in order to have ebay/paypal Buyer and Seller protection.

EACH ITEM IS PACKED CAREFULLY WITH STRONG CARD TO ENSURE IT ARRIVES IN GOOD CONDITION.
Items with a combined value of less than £50 will be mailed by standard delivery (unless an alternative option is chosen and paid for at your own risk). If you pay for standard postage and the value is over £50, there is NO REFUND in the unlikely event of non-delivery or damage. We always obtain proof of posting.

The Post Office will no longer allow us to post Airsure or International Signed For to post office box addresses, therefore please provide a full physical address for mailing.

Returns Policy - All items are offered as they are advertised, scanned and/or photographed.
We always wish to try and sort out any problems before opening a case, so please send a message via eBay to us first. In the event that buyers are unhappy with their purchase, or there is a problem with an item/order, a refund including postage costs, (if we are at fault) will be made when the item is returned within 14 days of receipt. Return address:
RUSHSTAMPS PO BOX 1 Lyndhurst, Hampshire SO43 7PP UK.

WHOLESALE/QUANTITY BUY IT NOW OFFERS ARE ALWAYS SUBJECT TO FINAL STOCK COUNT"



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purrfin2
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20 Jan 2016
06:12:59am
re: Sellers for suckers?

So I'm not the only one who doesn't care about all that jibber-jabber. I just want to know the true condition of the stamp.

Times sure have changed.

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ikeyPikey
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20 Jan 2016
10:31:21am
re: Sellers for suckers?

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"... Am I asking too much for a little bit of information about the stamp? ..."



Well, yes, actually, you are.

As eBay has evolved from a stamp auction site to the largest collection of stamp dealer price lists, ever, the very real problem has arisen that, with so little material moving (in percentage terms), the less any dealer can invest in any listing.

About the best you can do is leave a message asking for more detail about a particular lot, and patronize the folks who answer.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey


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20 Jan 2016
10:38:24am
re: Sellers for suckers?

Ouch - just the perf damage alone should raise their eyebrow at the selling price. A space filler until a good issue is located, perhaps - but there's nothing there to verify that it actually IS the stamp the seller purports it to be!

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20 Jan 2016
01:04:22pm
re: Sellers for suckers?

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"Why aren't the sellers on eBay describing the stamps anymore?"



Sales velocity (IkeyPikey has it right there);
Fewer buyers so sellers wish to invest less time per sale to maximize margin per sale;
And, importantly, avoiding a basis for complaint, return or refund. The more the seller writes as a description, the greater the chance that the buyer will find that the item was "not as described" and return it. Basically, there are so many fussy/difficult buyers that sellers are refusing to take responsibility for what they sell; effectively these sales are "as is".
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michael78651
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20 Jan 2016
03:35:18pm
re: Sellers for suckers?

Just to chime in here on this discussion about deficiencies in seller item descriptions on other sites, at Stamporama we take a different view of things for the benefit of the buyer.

On Stamporama, the image/photograph is not sufficient. Sellers are required to enter in their description all defects relating to the item being sold even if the defect is visible in the image/photograph.

Michael
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20 Jan 2016
03:42:18pm
re: Sellers for suckers?

you just gotta love SOR in the way it looks out for its peeps; thanks, Michael

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purrfin2
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20 Jan 2016
05:16:11pm
re: Sellers for suckers?

I guess I'm still old school with the seller describing the state of the stamp instead of relying on what could be a bad scan.

I have an on-line store and I do take the time to describe the stamp.

I also understand eBay has changed it's format, a lot. I still do not understand why a seller can not take one sentence and describe the stamp and then do all the jibber jabber.

JMHO

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