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The violet cancel does not help!
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rrr..
here is an enhanced photo, if it helps.
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No clue but it looks like it is laying on its right side. As it is unfamiliar and has a Purple cancel my first guess would be revenue.
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I agree, the stamp is currently rotated 90° to the right. I think I see a tughra at the right (rotated, of course). I have to head out for a meeting. I'll see if I can look it up when I return in a few hours.
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The cancel is really quite complex. I think it is obviously a revenue but its use is probably beyond a simple receipt.
These are really only guesses, but the fee for the issue of a passport, transfer of land or property, or tax on a will or similar legal document come to mind - a tax stamp with such a cancel is obviously for use on something intended to be retained for some time.A shame we don't have the complete document -revenues are best collected thus if available.
Malcolm
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You might be able to use a colored filter or that website that was discussed recently to filter out that cancel and see more of the stamp.
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Thanks for your guesses. I concur that it probably is a Turkish Revenue. The large denomination (1000) seems to point in that revenue direction, if it is Turkey. The Arabic lettering certainly points in that direction, although other countries use them as well, but the feel of the stamp is definitely Turkish. No Tughra though Kim (or is it?), I think, or an odd one...I looked carefully with the loupe...but some more faint arabic lettering. The Arabic letters on the bottom (now), next to the side 1000 seem to be "N or F" "C" "F or T" "N or AA" "A" and then last letter is "SH"..last letter of kurush?. How does one say 1000 in Arabic or Turkish?
Well I will file it as revenue, and as I don't collect revenues, on the assumption it is indeed Turkie, it will be going to "Turkie-Michael".
I am posting one more photo, right side up, and using a macro lens..took a whole bunch, and this is the best one of the pictures I took. It was really tough to get a well registered shot. No photo enhancing.
Anyone thinks the cancelation looks like it is in Hebrew letters?
Just for the curious.... isn't it fun!
rrr...
Come to think of it, I now wonder if the 1000 is just a decorative detail and if the value is actually in the box at the bottom, 1/2 which would gell with the Arabic caracters, as the letters N C F is indeed 1/2 in Arabic. So 1/2 kurush? not a large denomination!
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Hi rrr,
I wonder if the "1000" is part of a proportional fees inscription such as "101 to 1000" as used on Ottoman revenue stamps?
I don't recognise this stamp but it reminds me of the Syrian Arab Kingdom postal issues. However, I have no references for Syrian Arab Kingdom revenues.
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I tried to clear some of the cancellation, as I was convinced this was an Ottoman Empire fiscal. I then over-layed two sections of another confirmed O.E. fiscal. There are distinct similarities:
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I concur - could very well be Turkey...
...but could also be Saudi Arabia due to the Tughra.
Randy
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Can you help? I can see arabic numerals 1000, and also some lettering on the LHS but ?
The violet cancel does not help!
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rrr..
here is an enhanced photo, if it helps.
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No clue but it looks like it is laying on its right side. As it is unfamiliar and has a Purple cancel my first guess would be revenue.
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I agree, the stamp is currently rotated 90° to the right. I think I see a tughra at the right (rotated, of course). I have to head out for a meeting. I'll see if I can look it up when I return in a few hours.
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05:24:40am
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The cancel is really quite complex. I think it is obviously a revenue but its use is probably beyond a simple receipt.
These are really only guesses, but the fee for the issue of a passport, transfer of land or property, or tax on a will or similar legal document come to mind - a tax stamp with such a cancel is obviously for use on something intended to be retained for some time.A shame we don't have the complete document -revenues are best collected thus if available.
Malcolm
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You might be able to use a colored filter or that website that was discussed recently to filter out that cancel and see more of the stamp.
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Thanks for your guesses. I concur that it probably is a Turkish Revenue. The large denomination (1000) seems to point in that revenue direction, if it is Turkey. The Arabic lettering certainly points in that direction, although other countries use them as well, but the feel of the stamp is definitely Turkish. No Tughra though Kim (or is it?), I think, or an odd one...I looked carefully with the loupe...but some more faint arabic lettering. The Arabic letters on the bottom (now), next to the side 1000 seem to be "N or F" "C" "F or T" "N or AA" "A" and then last letter is "SH"..last letter of kurush?. How does one say 1000 in Arabic or Turkish?
Well I will file it as revenue, and as I don't collect revenues, on the assumption it is indeed Turkie, it will be going to "Turkie-Michael".
I am posting one more photo, right side up, and using a macro lens..took a whole bunch, and this is the best one of the pictures I took. It was really tough to get a well registered shot. No photo enhancing.
Anyone thinks the cancelation looks like it is in Hebrew letters?
Just for the curious.... isn't it fun!
rrr...
Come to think of it, I now wonder if the 1000 is just a decorative detail and if the value is actually in the box at the bottom, 1/2 which would gell with the Arabic caracters, as the letters N C F is indeed 1/2 in Arabic. So 1/2 kurush? not a large denomination!
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Hi rrr,
I wonder if the "1000" is part of a proportional fees inscription such as "101 to 1000" as used on Ottoman revenue stamps?
I don't recognise this stamp but it reminds me of the Syrian Arab Kingdom postal issues. However, I have no references for Syrian Arab Kingdom revenues.
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I tried to clear some of the cancellation, as I was convinced this was an Ottoman Empire fiscal. I then over-layed two sections of another confirmed O.E. fiscal. There are distinct similarities:
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I concur - could very well be Turkey...
...but could also be Saudi Arabia due to the Tughra.
Randy
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