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General Philatelic/Identify This? :  1850s envelope

 

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08 Jan 2016
05:40:14pm
I purchased this and am just wanting a second opinion on the identification. The seller had it identified as a U3 but it doesn't look right to me as U3 has straight lines before and after "tHREE" and "CENTS"...

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08 Jan 2016
07:06:44pm
re: 1850s envelope

I'd go with U9.

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Stampme

08 Jan 2016
07:18:29pm
re: 1850s envelope

If you look at the Scott Specialist listing for these covers you will note that there is a design variant listed as U3 and the catalog # is listed as U5; or this could be design U5 with a catalog # U9. I think that is the discrepancy. This looks like catalog # U9 to me. But am not a specialist. I do know that if this is catalog # U9, the more valuable cover does not have a POD US watermark.
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08 Jan 2016
07:26:39pm
re: 1850s envelope

It is TYPE U5, but catalogue number U9. Identifying by type doesn't work! It is one of the few areas (the only area?) where Scott uses the same designators for Design Type as well as Catalog number -- can be very confusing. For stamps, the design Types are typically "A" numbers, and for semi-postals, they use "B" catalogue numbers, but "SP" type designators.

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08 Jan 2016
10:03:43pm
re: 1850s envelope

Thanks everyone!

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Stampme

09 Jan 2016
01:27:02pm
re: 1850s envelope

So, does the cover have a watermark? Happy
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09 Jan 2016
05:59:31pm
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Yes it does...

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08 Jan 2016
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I purchased this and am just wanting a second opinion on the identification. The seller had it identified as a U3 but it doesn't look right to me as U3 has straight lines before and after "tHREE" and "CENTS"...

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ThomasGalloway

08 Jan 2016
07:06:44pm

re: 1850s envelope

I'd go with U9.

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Stampme

08 Jan 2016
07:18:29pm

re: 1850s envelope

If you look at the Scott Specialist listing for these covers you will note that there is a design variant listed as U3 and the catalog # is listed as U5; or this could be design U5 with a catalog # U9. I think that is the discrepancy. This looks like catalog # U9 to me. But am not a specialist. I do know that if this is catalog # U9, the more valuable cover does not have a POD US watermark.
Bruce

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08 Jan 2016
07:26:39pm

re: 1850s envelope

It is TYPE U5, but catalogue number U9. Identifying by type doesn't work! It is one of the few areas (the only area?) where Scott uses the same designators for Design Type as well as Catalog number -- can be very confusing. For stamps, the design Types are typically "A" numbers, and for semi-postals, they use "B" catalogue numbers, but "SP" type designators.

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hblairh

08 Jan 2016
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re: 1850s envelope

Thanks everyone!

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09 Jan 2016
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So, does the cover have a watermark? Happy
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09 Jan 2016
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Yes it does...

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