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12 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

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All US stamps issued for the movement of first class mail (including airmail stamps) since 1869 are valid for postage. In fact, I am down to just a few mint stamps from the 19th century and I do so like to use them to decorate my mail - so I will be paying double face value for all MNH 19th century US stamps anyone has lying around. Big Grin

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12 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

All USA postage, semi-postal and air mail stamps issued from 1862 onward are valid for postage duty.

The USA Congress invalidated all US postage stamps issued up to 1862 at the onset of the US Civil War. It was found that USA stamps were being sold by the Confederacy for hard cash to help fund the war.

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12 Dec 2015
02:18:55pm
re: US Stamps Postage Validity

if you're just using them for postage, Bobby, why do you want them as NH? Unless that's so, after they've been soaked, you could say that they are now Used, NH? Not that you would.

and, I know you know where I live

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12 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Michael, i think the last stamps demonetized were the 1857 issue in 1861

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12 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Doesn't matter, because all USA stamps issued prior to January 1, 1862, are not valid for postage.

New stamps became available in August 1861, however, the the invalidation for use of older US stamps (people were allowed to trade in the older stamps for the new ones) was applied in phases across the country from September 1861 to January 1862.

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12 Dec 2015
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Veeeeeeety Interesting.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Here's another interesting tidbit.

Prior to the August 1861 issue, US stamps were inscribed with only "U.S. Postage". In an attempt to differentiate the invalidated stamps, the new stamps issued in August 1861 and later were inscribed not only with "U.S. Postage", but also had the initials "US" (one "U" and one "S" in different corners of each stamp).

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Note that Special Delivery stamps are no longer valid for regular mail, but are still valid to pay for Express Mail.

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13 Dec 2015
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and that you, me, and 16 other post masters and carriers know that rule

so, not demonetizd, but reclassified in that special delivery no longer exissts, as such, but Express Mail is the closest thing

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Are there any countries whose postage has been valid as long as the USA?

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

I don't know about here in Canada, but I've received numerous covers with KG VI stamps on them alongside stamps through to the '90s. I have a buddy of mine that prefers to use old postage and I'm sure he hasn't purchased any stamps at all since 2000 because everything he has ever sent me has stamps from the '60s-'90s and even some as early as the War Issues of KG VI. I've yet to receive anything with a stamp prior to KG VI.

Remember though, if it is on cover, then according to Unitrade the cv is only for the stamp used in the period of which it was issued (until the next definitive lots were issued).

So having a KG VI War Issue with a 2015 is nice to look at on a cover and worthless for re-sell. I do enjoy my buddy's covers when he sends my stamps though because it's like having a collage of Canadian history through the decades.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

I believe that all Canadian stamps remain valid for postage as do the stamps from Newfoundland.

I don't know of any other countries, other than the USA and Canada, with such long-lived stamps.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

All Canadian stamps denominated in dollars and cents (1859 to to-day) remain valid for postage. Newfoundland stamps denominated in dollars and cents remain valid thought Canada.

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13 Dec 2015
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Thanks, David. That's what I thought. I always like it when I receive mail from Canada and it has stamps from Newfoundland on the cover. Doesn't happen too often, though.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

The use of old stamps is not a new phenomenon.

Here is a postmaster cover (likely also a stamp dealer) from 1929 using the 1897 Jubilee and the 1908 Tercentenary issues.

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14 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Roy:

I understand that when the first booklet panes of the 2-cent QV Numeral issue came out, stamp dealers were stocking up on them, hoping there would be collector demand. There wasn't and many were broken-up and used by dealers later on.

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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

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All US stamps issued for the movement of first class mail (including airmail stamps) since 1869 are valid for postage. In fact, I am down to just a few mint stamps from the 19th century and I do so like to use them to decorate my mail - so I will be paying double face value for all MNH 19th century US stamps anyone has lying around. Big Grin

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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

All USA postage, semi-postal and air mail stamps issued from 1862 onward are valid for postage duty.

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12 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

if you're just using them for postage, Bobby, why do you want them as NH? Unless that's so, after they've been soaked, you could say that they are now Used, NH? Not that you would.

and, I know you know where I live

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12 Dec 2015
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Michael, i think the last stamps demonetized were the 1857 issue in 1861

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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Doesn't matter, because all USA stamps issued prior to January 1, 1862, are not valid for postage.

New stamps became available in August 1861, however, the the invalidation for use of older US stamps (people were allowed to trade in the older stamps for the new ones) was applied in phases across the country from September 1861 to January 1862.

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12 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Veeeeeeety Interesting.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Here's another interesting tidbit.

Prior to the August 1861 issue, US stamps were inscribed with only "U.S. Postage". In an attempt to differentiate the invalidated stamps, the new stamps issued in August 1861 and later were inscribed not only with "U.S. Postage", but also had the initials "US" (one "U" and one "S" in different corners of each stamp).

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Note that Special Delivery stamps are no longer valid for regular mail, but are still valid to pay for Express Mail.

David

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

and that you, me, and 16 other post masters and carriers know that rule

so, not demonetizd, but reclassified in that special delivery no longer exissts, as such, but Express Mail is the closest thing

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Are there any countries whose postage has been valid as long as the USA?

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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

I don't know about here in Canada, but I've received numerous covers with KG VI stamps on them alongside stamps through to the '90s. I have a buddy of mine that prefers to use old postage and I'm sure he hasn't purchased any stamps at all since 2000 because everything he has ever sent me has stamps from the '60s-'90s and even some as early as the War Issues of KG VI. I've yet to receive anything with a stamp prior to KG VI.

Remember though, if it is on cover, then according to Unitrade the cv is only for the stamp used in the period of which it was issued (until the next definitive lots were issued).

So having a KG VI War Issue with a 2015 is nice to look at on a cover and worthless for re-sell. I do enjoy my buddy's covers when he sends my stamps though because it's like having a collage of Canadian history through the decades.

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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

I believe that all Canadian stamps remain valid for postage as do the stamps from Newfoundland.

I don't know of any other countries, other than the USA and Canada, with such long-lived stamps.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

All Canadian stamps denominated in dollars and cents (1859 to to-day) remain valid for postage. Newfoundland stamps denominated in dollars and cents remain valid thought Canada.

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13 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Thanks, David. That's what I thought. I always like it when I receive mail from Canada and it has stamps from Newfoundland on the cover. Doesn't happen too often, though.

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13 Dec 2015
09:08:59pm

re: US Stamps Postage Validity

The use of old stamps is not a new phenomenon.

Here is a postmaster cover (likely also a stamp dealer) from 1929 using the 1897 Jubilee and the 1908 Tercentenary issues.

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Roy

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14 Dec 2015
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re: US Stamps Postage Validity

Roy:

I understand that when the first booklet panes of the 2-cent QV Numeral issue came out, stamp dealers were stocking up on them, hoping there would be collector demand. There wasn't and many were broken-up and used by dealers later on.

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