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08 Dec 2015
11:32:28am
I got this stamp on ebay at a very low price. I noticed in Scotts they warn that it could be a color variant of another stamp. I'd like to get other opinions. (I loved the red "paid" cancel on this one.)

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08 Dec 2015
11:50:32am
re: Trimmed 70?

Blair

Unless a stamp is extremely rare, one that has been trimmed as drastically as this one will not be very expensive. And while I might not actively seek stamps in this condition, should one find its way to me, I would welcome it and give it a home. I am one of those people who collect everything, even the poor, bedraggled stamps others are ashamed to have in their collection, so I do not worry about value for stamps such as this one, but instead look for positive aspects (like the nice cancel you observed).


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08 Dec 2015
12:06:30pm
re: Trimmed 70?

I agree. I just wanted to make sure I was identifing it correctly. I would rather have an example of a stamp like this in my collection even if it's not in perfect condition than do without because a perfect example is out of my reach financialy.

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08 Dec 2015
02:47:18pm
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On this one, while the stamp is toast, the cancel makes it worth keeping.

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08 Dec 2015
03:56:13pm
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for someone who doesn't have a Scott 70, like me, one man's toast is another man's flaky buttery chocolate-infused croissant. I understand it has nominal resale at best, but for those who like stamps, it's worth keeping, and I would.

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08 Dec 2015
05:07:54pm
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Thanks everyone and yes David one man's toast...

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Redneck75

09 Dec 2015
12:06:49am
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I am going out on a limb, I think you have a # 78 darker red

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09 Dec 2015
03:00:58am
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These can be quite confusing because many of the shades are fairly close. I would say that it is probably 78a.
I see no Red in it at all, except for the cancel and there is no Dark Red or any Red to be found on either 70 or 78. No. 70 Red Lilac has just a slight hint of Red. When I was a kid I thought I saw a type A29 in the Smithsonian in a bright Red color. The stamp really struck me and I looked for one for years before I realized none existed except in trial color proofs.
I would not trust many sellers on Ebay to ID these correctly.

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09 Dec 2015
02:50:31pm
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Thanks Mitchel! Thanks Redneck! I guess my hunt for a 70 goes on...

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09 Dec 2015
07:35:27pm
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After taking a second look and comparing your stamps with the several 70 & 78's I have, I think it might be a #70c Violet. I made bigger scans of mine and after comparing them all it made me think I must have been blind last night. Of course this is dependent on both scanners showing colors correctly and the seller not having tweeked his scan. It should be on thin semi transparent paper. When you get it, check the paper and hope for the best.
It has a fresh look and who can guess why the perfs were trimmmed. In may countries with the transition from imperfs to perforated stamps, many clerks were still in the habit of cutting the stamps apart with scissors. This was done so often in Portugal with the second curved label set that it does not hurt catalog value much. Of course most of the perfs were left and not totally removed as yours. This practice was not used in the U.S. often.

#70 is not hard to come buy and I see decent copies being offered weekly in the $35-50 range. 70c is quite a scarce stamp and one of the few I'm missing. If it is one it will make a decent space filler that you will probably never replace.

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09 Dec 2015
09:28:03pm
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Thanks Mitchell. I took that photo and I use a white piece of paper in the photo to color balance off of so the color is right in the photo. I would check the paper but I'm not at home. I'm sitting in a hospital bed at osceola regional medical center. Heart palpitations...

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09 Dec 2015
09:56:05pm
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Blair,

For goodness sake, take care of yourself!

The stamp-collecting community is shrinking fast enough!

Best of luck, my friend.Wave







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09 Dec 2015
09:57:47pm
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"Thanks Mitchell. I took that photo and I use a white piece of paper in the photo to color balance off of so the color is right in the photo. I would check the paper but I'm not at home. I'm sitting in a hospital bed at osceola regional medical center. Heart palpitations..."




Get well SOON Blair...Bill
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09 Dec 2015
11:10:58pm
re: Trimmed 70?

well I'm home... My blood work was all excellent and they have no idea what caused my palpitations. I have a condition called SVT and I have palpitations regularly but today they were constant so I had to go in.

thanks for all the well wishes!

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09 Dec 2015
11:20:15pm
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Back to the stamp... Mitchell, The paper is very thin and yes semi transparent.

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10 Dec 2015
10:27:28am
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Be very careful as these are extremely fragile

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10 Dec 2015
11:24:24am
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Hey Blair,

Glad to hear you're feeling better. Take care!

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10 Dec 2015
01:48:15pm
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Thanks Cactus, Yes I was very careful and it is safely in a vario page until I'm ready to mount it.

Thanks Ernie, I am feeling much better.

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10 Dec 2015
02:01:00pm
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"have no idea what caused my palpitations"



Doesn't take a doctor to figure this one out. You stated in another thread that you were given a large collection of stamps. Case closed!
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10 Dec 2015
02:12:34pm
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Touche` Michael ROFL

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10 Dec 2015
09:22:26pm
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Blair, Congrats! Since it is very thin transparent paper I must be a 70c! That's why I could not match it with one of mine, I don't have one.
Glad the hospital trip was a false alarm!

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10 Dec 2015
10:40:04pm
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Thanks Mitchell. I know in the condition it's in it's still not worth much but it has a place of honor in my collection.

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08 Dec 2015
11:32:28am

I got this stamp on ebay at a very low price. I noticed in Scotts they warn that it could be a color variant of another stamp. I'd like to get other opinions. (I loved the red "paid" cancel on this one.)

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08 Dec 2015
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re: Trimmed 70?

Blair

Unless a stamp is extremely rare, one that has been trimmed as drastically as this one will not be very expensive. And while I might not actively seek stamps in this condition, should one find its way to me, I would welcome it and give it a home. I am one of those people who collect everything, even the poor, bedraggled stamps others are ashamed to have in their collection, so I do not worry about value for stamps such as this one, but instead look for positive aspects (like the nice cancel you observed).


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08 Dec 2015
12:06:30pm

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I agree. I just wanted to make sure I was identifing it correctly. I would rather have an example of a stamp like this in my collection even if it's not in perfect condition than do without because a perfect example is out of my reach financialy.

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08 Dec 2015
02:47:18pm

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On this one, while the stamp is toast, the cancel makes it worth keeping.

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08 Dec 2015
03:56:13pm

re: Trimmed 70?

for someone who doesn't have a Scott 70, like me, one man's toast is another man's flaky buttery chocolate-infused croissant. I understand it has nominal resale at best, but for those who like stamps, it's worth keeping, and I would.

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08 Dec 2015
05:07:54pm

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Thanks everyone and yes David one man's toast...

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09 Dec 2015
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I am going out on a limb, I think you have a # 78 darker red

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09 Dec 2015
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re: Trimmed 70?

These can be quite confusing because many of the shades are fairly close. I would say that it is probably 78a.
I see no Red in it at all, except for the cancel and there is no Dark Red or any Red to be found on either 70 or 78. No. 70 Red Lilac has just a slight hint of Red. When I was a kid I thought I saw a type A29 in the Smithsonian in a bright Red color. The stamp really struck me and I looked for one for years before I realized none existed except in trial color proofs.
I would not trust many sellers on Ebay to ID these correctly.

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09 Dec 2015
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Thanks Mitchel! Thanks Redneck! I guess my hunt for a 70 goes on...

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09 Dec 2015
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re: Trimmed 70?

After taking a second look and comparing your stamps with the several 70 & 78's I have, I think it might be a #70c Violet. I made bigger scans of mine and after comparing them all it made me think I must have been blind last night. Of course this is dependent on both scanners showing colors correctly and the seller not having tweeked his scan. It should be on thin semi transparent paper. When you get it, check the paper and hope for the best.
It has a fresh look and who can guess why the perfs were trimmmed. In may countries with the transition from imperfs to perforated stamps, many clerks were still in the habit of cutting the stamps apart with scissors. This was done so often in Portugal with the second curved label set that it does not hurt catalog value much. Of course most of the perfs were left and not totally removed as yours. This practice was not used in the U.S. often.

#70 is not hard to come buy and I see decent copies being offered weekly in the $35-50 range. 70c is quite a scarce stamp and one of the few I'm missing. If it is one it will make a decent space filler that you will probably never replace.

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09 Dec 2015
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re: Trimmed 70?

Thanks Mitchell. I took that photo and I use a white piece of paper in the photo to color balance off of so the color is right in the photo. I would check the paper but I'm not at home. I'm sitting in a hospital bed at osceola regional medical center. Heart palpitations...

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09 Dec 2015
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Blair,

For goodness sake, take care of yourself!

The stamp-collecting community is shrinking fast enough!

Best of luck, my friend.Wave







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09 Dec 2015
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"Thanks Mitchell. I took that photo and I use a white piece of paper in the photo to color balance off of so the color is right in the photo. I would check the paper but I'm not at home. I'm sitting in a hospital bed at osceola regional medical center. Heart palpitations..."




Get well SOON Blair...Bill
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09 Dec 2015
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well I'm home... My blood work was all excellent and they have no idea what caused my palpitations. I have a condition called SVT and I have palpitations regularly but today they were constant so I had to go in.

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09 Dec 2015
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Back to the stamp... Mitchell, The paper is very thin and yes semi transparent.

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10 Dec 2015
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Be very careful as these are extremely fragile

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10 Dec 2015
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Hey Blair,

Glad to hear you're feeling better. Take care!

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10 Dec 2015
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Thanks Cactus, Yes I was very careful and it is safely in a vario page until I'm ready to mount it.

Thanks Ernie, I am feeling much better.

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10 Dec 2015
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"have no idea what caused my palpitations"



Doesn't take a doctor to figure this one out. You stated in another thread that you were given a large collection of stamps. Case closed!
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10 Dec 2015
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Touche` Michael ROFL

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10 Dec 2015
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Blair, Congrats! Since it is very thin transparent paper I must be a 70c! That's why I could not match it with one of mine, I don't have one.
Glad the hospital trip was a false alarm!

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10 Dec 2015
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Thanks Mitchell. I know in the condition it's in it's still not worth much but it has a place of honor in my collection.

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