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larsdog
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02 Dec 2015
01:03:36am
I was gifted a postcard from Canada for what was on the back, but I am curious about the front. The postcard is postmarked Dec. 5, 1949 from SWIFT CURRENT, SASK

To: Mr. Jack Goodman
RCAC School (Royal Canadian Armoured Corps)
Camp Borden, Ontario, Canada

The text, as far as I can discern is:

How is every thing & fine here.
How can we write when no letters?
How the weather in the East Part?
How are all you boys getting along?
How are you going to fund Xmas?
How do you get along there?
How the ice on the roads?
How is the fall you had?
How are the Sundays?
How are the Beautiful girls there?
How would you like to be at the Gobbler's?/Golfer's? Dance?
tonight g??? ??? playing?
Dad

Would a father, from Saskatchewan, writing to his son in 1949, refer to Ontario as "the East Part?"

Any idea on what the last lines say?

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02 Dec 2015
06:57:39am
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5th. line is probably "spend xmas". Will try and work out last line.

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Ningpo
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02 Dec 2015
07:00:44am
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I tried isolating those two words. Note that the looped downstrokes over the last two characters are still partly overlaid.


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Over to you.

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02 Dec 2015
07:11:18am
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Not sure on last line, possibly Golf club dance tonight guild ladies play-sing (or playing).

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02 Dec 2015
10:17:39am
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"Would a father, from Saskatchewan, writing to his son in 1949, refer to Ontario as "the East Part?""



Yes.

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02 Dec 2015
09:39:22pm
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Ah, yes, sheepshanks!

SPEND Christmas, not FUND Christmas. You can tell what MY preoccupation is right now!

Thanks for isolating those two words, Ningpo, but it may be a local or slang term. the first word clearly starts with a lower case g, and could be girl or girls, but it would make more sense if there was a game in the late 1940's in Canada that was two words and the first started with "g". My quess the first word ends with "s" and the second ends in "se".

Thanks for the info Roy!

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Ningpo
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02 Dec 2015
10:06:05pm
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Here's another (difficult) attempt to clarify the postcard and identify those unintelligible words:



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I think one of the words is Gobbler's.There is a faint chance that the next word is Draw, as there is a reference to a placename called Gobbler's Draw in Swift Current. This may have referred to the wild turkeys that were abundant there in the early 1900's.


I know it's a big stretch of the imagination (and doesn't make sense as yet) but could the two words on the last line say, Gull Lake? This is a small town just west of Swift Current.


However, if the next word is 'playing', why is it a capital 'P'?

Perhaps this is all a bit obscure though.

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02 Dec 2015
10:58:41pm
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Glad I'm not the only one who likes a challenge, the writer drops a capital "B" in the middle of line above, so not sure the P is meant as a capital.
Also if it's Gull lake why no capital G but then the foregoing could apply here as well.
The end could be Play & sing, the same script appears in the first line.
Could the word be gold rather than gull?
Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice, munching another magic mushroom.

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03 Dec 2015
06:10:43am
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"Also if it's Gull lake why no capital G but then the foregoing could apply here as well."




The word 'gobbler's' has no capital either. So it is consistent.

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03 Dec 2015
08:30:13am
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"tonight Gull Lake playing" (probably a hockey game).

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03 Dec 2015
08:59:58am
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That certainly makes some sense Roy, namely GULL LAKE GREYHOUNDS.

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03 Dec 2015
08:38:58pm
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I think you're on the right track. What if Swift Current was hosting Gull Lake and they were big rivals? If that's the case, it could be:

How would you like to be at the Gobbler's Draw
tonight - Gull Lake playing.

But if so, why call it THE Gobbler's Draw? Could it be Gobbler's Dome? Perhaps that was the name of the rink and it was located near Gobbler's Draw. The word "the" leads me to suspect that this is a specific building or event, not a general geographic location. I just can't find ANYTHING on Google to support that theory, but this was hockey from the late 1940's so I would probably need someone from Saskatchewan to shed some light.

It still COULD be "Draw" if there was an event where they drew names from a hat to determine who played whom, and they called it THE Gobbler's Draw and held it AT Gobbler's Draw, I suppose.


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03 Dec 2015
08:55:12pm
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Not sure if this is your Goodman family, have not been able to find a link to gull lake or swift current as yet.
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=3732230
There is also a local history book titled "Prairie Wool" that may also refer to this family.

edit , sorry the link is for this book which is viewable online.

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03 Dec 2015
08:57:34pm
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I'm not surprised you found nothing. The history of that area seems to have disappeared into the ether. I only found Gobbler's Draw by drilling down through obscure references; until I found it in connection with some water stream analysis document.

The photos I came across of Swift Current, seem to show a largely rebuilt town. Even the Lyceum Theatre there has burnt down twice since being built.

Anyway, during my interweb mining operation, I came across an article which broke the monotony. It's an extract of Saskatchewan slang words and phrases. Hope you like them:

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"Buttcrack: Derogatory term for rural Saskatchewan. It's right next to the middle of nowhere.

Bumpering: Saskatchewan's own extreme sport! To go bumpering, grab the bumper of a moving vehicle and allow it pull you as it careens across the ice. This is dangerous and not at all recommended.

Combine pilot: A bad driver with Saskatchewan licence plates.

Cow or Buffalo chips: Dried, hardened pieces of cow or buffalo manure.

Gitch: Men's underwear. For some reason, in Alberta they are referred to as gonch.

Miles: Canada went metric in 1970. Today, nearly four decades later, Saskatchewanians are on to the "new" system when it comes to the highways, but on rural roads directions are often still given in miles since the roads are on a grid that runs every mile by two miles.

P.A.: The short form of the city of Prince Albert.

Package pickup: An off-sale outlet that sells beer.

Peoples' Republic of Saskatchewan: A nickname for Saskatchewan, which pokes fun at its socialist tendencies.

Pile o' Bones: Regina. (See second from bottom)

Prairie Oysters: This delicacy features the testicles of a bull. These tasty testes are usually fried.

Saskabush, Toontown: Yet more Saskatoon nicknames.

Saskatchewan chrome: Duct tape. It really can hold your bumper on.

Speedy Creek: A nickname for the city of Swift Current.

Spits: Edible sunflower seeds, so named because when you shell the seed you must spit out the inedible shell.

The centre of the universe: A derogatory term for Toronto.

The hood: North central Regina, a neighbourhood known for its high poverty, crime and unemployment rates, as well as its deplorable housing.

Winterpeg: The pet name for the only city that is colder than most of Saskatchewan most of the time."








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03 Dec 2015
09:04:52pm
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I'm not Goodman family and I'm not from Canada. I'm from Texas. I just like a good challenge. Someone gave me this card because of what's on the other side. It fits with my topical collection. I just couldn't resist trying to figure out what it said! I thought I had it reasonably figured out and a few skilled eyes from the Great White North might be able to fill in the blanks.

I do believe that the Swift Current / Gull Lake link is key here. When I visited Calgary several years ago, there was a big buzz because Edmonton was coming to town. (That may have also had something to do with the fact that Gretsky was still in Edmonton at the time). But growing up I remember that the biggest rivalries at the high school and college level always seemed to be the a relatively nearby town.

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03 Dec 2015
09:08:36pm
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I just LOVE Saskatchewan Chrome!

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03 Dec 2015
09:34:32pm
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Have just found a history book for Gull lake on the same site but cannot find mention of the Goodman family. Gull Lake is around 70 miles from Climax

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03 Dec 2015
09:38:47pm
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I don't think this Goodman family was from Gull Lake. I think they were from Swift Current. I now believe Gull Lake was their rival at hockey (probably).

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03 Dec 2015
10:43:28pm
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I am not from Saskatchewan but once lived in the neighbouring prairie province of Alberta.

Gull Lake is about 35 miles west of Swift Current; both are towns in Saskatchewan.

I have never heard of Gobbler's Draw, but I would offer the suggestion that a "draw" in Canadian prairie parlance was and is a name for a curling match. Thus the reference could be to a curling match with folks from Gull Lake rather than a hockey game.

Thus the lines might read:
How would you like to be at the Gobbler's Draw
tonight Gull Lake playing.

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03 Dec 2015
11:22:32pm
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That sounds very promising!!!

It's amazing how such a pedestrian cover can bring out such expertise.

I love it!

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04 Dec 2015
09:41:24pm
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I sent an email to the Swift Current Curling Club to see if this cover rings any bells. Their web site even refers to an upcoming tournament as a "Draw". I will let you know!
Well done jthurd!!!

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04 Dec 2015
10:13:48pm
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In curling news, Swift Current is hosting the Women's Curling World Championships next year! So Swift Current IS big into Curling! Here is their Curling/Hockey venue:

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Not too shabby!

Here in Marshall County, Kentucky we are currently hosting Hoop Fest, broadcast on ESPN. It's the top high school basketball teams in the country. Maybe Swift Current is (or was) a focal point for youth curling like Marshall County is a focal point for youth basketball!

That's why Gull Lake may not have been the opponent, but the local favorite. I hope to learn more from the Curling Club.

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