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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Scott numbers for International Polar Year

 

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29 Nov 2015
03:03:11pm
I'm trying to find Scott numbers for the 7 other issues that were joint with US 4123 - International Polar Year 2007-2008. The hard part is that US also issued these same stamps later in the year in panes of 20 as 4203-04, so I'm afraid the numbers I have for Canada, Denmark, and Greenland are for similar pane issues and not the Souvenir Sheet.

CANADA

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I have 2204-05, but I wonder if that is for a separate pane issue.

DENMARK

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I have 1372-73, but I wonder if that is for a separate pane issue.

FINLAND

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no idea

GREENLAND

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I have 491-92, but I wonder if that is for a separate pane issue.

ICELAND

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I have Scott 1098.

NORWAY

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I have Scott 1500

SWEDEN

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no idea.

Thanks for any help.

Cheers!

Lars

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29 Nov 2015
04:57:27pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

The later US issue has a separate major Scott catalog number mainly because the denomination has changed from the international 84¢ rate to the domestic 42¢ rate, not just because of the change in format.

Canada issue came in 2 formats:

-- pane of 16 (8 pairs), singles are Scott #2204 and #2205, the pair is #2205a, the pair in reverse order with gutter between is #2205i

-- souvenir sheet of 2, Scott #2205b

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29 Nov 2015
05:01:00pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Thanks for the clarification on Canada, k!

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29 Nov 2015
05:04:26pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

You're welcome.

I had my Unitrade with me, but I don't have my Facit with me. If nobody else has chimed in, I'll look up the Scandinavian formats after I get home.

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29 Nov 2015
05:06:53pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

The Finland souvenir sheet of 2 is Scott #1280(24Jan2007).

The Sweden souvenir sheet of 2 is Scott #2552(25Jan2007).


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29 Nov 2015
05:23:44pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Thanks, k!

Here is what I have:

Canada 2205b
Denmark 1373a
Finland 1280
Greenland 492a
Iceland 1098
Norway 1500
Sweden 2552
U.S. 4123

The U.S. issued the stamps separately in panes as 4203-04. Canada issued them separately in panes as 2205a. I don't know of any others so far, but Denmark and Greenland seem to be good candidates if the Scott numbering system is consistent. (Stop laughing Michael!).

You mentioned Canada 2205i. That looks to be a gutter between SS panes, not 2205a panes.

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29 Nov 2015
05:49:39pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

"You mentioned Canada 2205i. That looks to be a gutter between SS panes, not 2205a panes."



No that is the gutter between the stamp pairs within the 2204-2205 pane. The 8 pairs are arranged in 2 groups of 4 pairs, with a gutter between the 2 groups. So you could separate the pane into horizontal strips of 2205+gutter+2204. That is what Unitrade calls #2205i.
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29 Nov 2015
06:06:27pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

"No that is the gutter between the stamp pairs within the 2204-2205 pane. The 8 pairs are arranged in 2 groups of 4 pairs, with a gutter between the 2 groups. So you could separate the pane into horizontal strips of 2205+gutter+2204. That is what Unitrade calls #2205i."



OK, gotcha! When you posted the catalog numbers I went to Stamps2Go and looked at examples and saw the thermometer on the gutter pair and remembered the thermometer to the right on the SS and got confused.

Thanks!

Lars

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29 Nov 2015
06:11:02pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

My bad, Lars. I was too lazy to post a pic of the full pane of 16 stamps showing the internal gutter. That would have made it more clear.

I still haven't gone home yet. I'll check the Facit then.

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29 Nov 2015
06:11:09pm
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It looks like the only unsettled question is whether Denmark and/or Iceland issued their stamps in any format other than SS.

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29 Nov 2015
06:13:59pm
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"My bad, Lars. I was too lazy to post a pic of the full pane of 16 stamps showing the internal gutter. That would have made it more clear."



Hey, I'm the one begging for info. You shouldn't be expected to post images as well! I appreciate all the help.

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29 Nov 2015
08:59:10pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Turns out my Facit is too old. Doesn't cover all the way to 2007. Someone else will need to chime in...

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29 Nov 2015
09:06:39pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Here's a link to pics showing the different formats for the Canada issue:

Canada IPY

and a link to the blog covering the other non-joint-issue IPY stamps that you might find useful:

IPY blogspot

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29 Nov 2015
09:13:00pm
re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

And a final link that has a pretty comprehensive list of IPY and related issues. Basically no pictures, but it does give Scott & Michel catalog numbers as well as pane formats. It does appear to indicate that the other items on your list were only produced in souvenir sheet format (only US and Canada released miniature pane versions).

IPY checklist

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29 Nov 2015
11:27:41pm
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Thanks for all the research and links. I believe that answers all my questions. Much appreciated!!!

Lars

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
29 Nov 2015
03:03:11pm

I'm trying to find Scott numbers for the 7 other issues that were joint with US 4123 - International Polar Year 2007-2008. The hard part is that US also issued these same stamps later in the year in panes of 20 as 4203-04, so I'm afraid the numbers I have for Canada, Denmark, and Greenland are for similar pane issues and not the Souvenir Sheet.

CANADA

Image Not Found

I have 2204-05, but I wonder if that is for a separate pane issue.

DENMARK

Image Not Found

I have 1372-73, but I wonder if that is for a separate pane issue.

FINLAND

Image Not Found

no idea

GREENLAND

Image Not Found

I have 491-92, but I wonder if that is for a separate pane issue.

ICELAND

Image Not Found

I have Scott 1098.

NORWAY

Image Not Found

I have Scott 1500

SWEDEN

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no idea.

Thanks for any help.

Cheers!

Lars

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29 Nov 2015
04:57:27pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

The later US issue has a separate major Scott catalog number mainly because the denomination has changed from the international 84¢ rate to the domestic 42¢ rate, not just because of the change in format.

Canada issue came in 2 formats:

-- pane of 16 (8 pairs), singles are Scott #2204 and #2205, the pair is #2205a, the pair in reverse order with gutter between is #2205i

-- souvenir sheet of 2, Scott #2205b

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29 Nov 2015
05:01:00pm

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Thanks for the clarification on Canada, k!

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29 Nov 2015
05:04:26pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

You're welcome.

I had my Unitrade with me, but I don't have my Facit with me. If nobody else has chimed in, I'll look up the Scandinavian formats after I get home.

k

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29 Nov 2015
05:06:53pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

The Finland souvenir sheet of 2 is Scott #1280(24Jan2007).

The Sweden souvenir sheet of 2 is Scott #2552(25Jan2007).


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29 Nov 2015
05:23:44pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Thanks, k!

Here is what I have:

Canada 2205b
Denmark 1373a
Finland 1280
Greenland 492a
Iceland 1098
Norway 1500
Sweden 2552
U.S. 4123

The U.S. issued the stamps separately in panes as 4203-04. Canada issued them separately in panes as 2205a. I don't know of any others so far, but Denmark and Greenland seem to be good candidates if the Scott numbering system is consistent. (Stop laughing Michael!).

You mentioned Canada 2205i. That looks to be a gutter between SS panes, not 2205a panes.

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29 Nov 2015
05:49:39pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

"You mentioned Canada 2205i. That looks to be a gutter between SS panes, not 2205a panes."



No that is the gutter between the stamp pairs within the 2204-2205 pane. The 8 pairs are arranged in 2 groups of 4 pairs, with a gutter between the 2 groups. So you could separate the pane into horizontal strips of 2205+gutter+2204. That is what Unitrade calls #2205i.
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29 Nov 2015
06:06:27pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

"No that is the gutter between the stamp pairs within the 2204-2205 pane. The 8 pairs are arranged in 2 groups of 4 pairs, with a gutter between the 2 groups. So you could separate the pane into horizontal strips of 2205+gutter+2204. That is what Unitrade calls #2205i."



OK, gotcha! When you posted the catalog numbers I went to Stamps2Go and looked at examples and saw the thermometer on the gutter pair and remembered the thermometer to the right on the SS and got confused.

Thanks!

Lars

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29 Nov 2015
06:11:02pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

My bad, Lars. I was too lazy to post a pic of the full pane of 16 stamps showing the internal gutter. That would have made it more clear.

I still haven't gone home yet. I'll check the Facit then.

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29 Nov 2015
06:11:09pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

It looks like the only unsettled question is whether Denmark and/or Iceland issued their stamps in any format other than SS.

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
29 Nov 2015
06:13:59pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

"My bad, Lars. I was too lazy to post a pic of the full pane of 16 stamps showing the internal gutter. That would have made it more clear."



Hey, I'm the one begging for info. You shouldn't be expected to post images as well! I appreciate all the help.

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29 Nov 2015
08:59:10pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Turns out my Facit is too old. Doesn't cover all the way to 2007. Someone else will need to chime in...

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29 Nov 2015
09:06:39pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Here's a link to pics showing the different formats for the Canada issue:

Canada IPY

and a link to the blog covering the other non-joint-issue IPY stamps that you might find useful:

IPY blogspot

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29 Nov 2015
09:13:00pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

And a final link that has a pretty comprehensive list of IPY and related issues. Basically no pictures, but it does give Scott & Michel catalog numbers as well as pane formats. It does appear to indicate that the other items on your list were only produced in souvenir sheet format (only US and Canada released miniature pane versions).

IPY checklist

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
29 Nov 2015
11:27:41pm

re: Scott numbers for International Polar Year

Thanks for all the research and links. I believe that answers all my questions. Much appreciated!!!

Lars

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