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BlackJack
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18 Nov 2015
09:07:05am
Is there any problems with removing hinges from used postage stamps? When I buy some of my 19th Century issues they have parts of hinges on them. Is it OK to soak them off or should I just leave them alone? I only use hingeless mounting.
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carabop

18 Nov 2015
09:10:05am
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I think soaking them off would be appropriate beings they are used stamps.

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18 Nov 2015
10:18:57am
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I soak any used stamps that I receive because hinge remnants will often mask faults such as thins. Hinge remnants may also prevent the stamp from laying flat when it is remounted.

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18 Nov 2015
10:59:20am
re: Hinge Removal?

What do people use as a soaking agent. In my early days of collecting it was just tap water. Today distilled water is probably better than what we have flowing through our taps for the paper.

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18 Nov 2015
01:54:17pm
re: Hinge Removal?

Hi BlackJack;

Just plain tap water is fine. If they are washed with several rinses in clean water they tend to
brighten up the paper and ink somewhat and look much better.

If you only have a couple to do and do not want to soak, try this. Lay stamp upside down on a
flat hard surface. A small piece of glass is perfect.

I use a 5x7 inch piece from an old picture frame. I mounted it to a box and added a light inside,
then a sheet of translucent white plastic as a light diffuser. This is similar to a light table used
by photographers to examine slides and photographic negatives. The light coming thru the
stamp will help to reveal flaws, thins and repairs. It can also double as a dry watermark detector
for the easier to identify watermarks.

To use for hinge removal, I use an old pair of tongs that have very rounded over spade tips
from years of use. You could also use an old butter knife as long as it has no sharp edges.
The knife is used as a burnishing tool. You are not trying to remove the hinge, but merely rub
gently across the hinge, from center toward edges, using a few ounces of pressure. Best to
practice this on damaged stamps or common ones, not those you want.

The burnishing caused the hardened gum of the hinge to fracture into a powder, and the hinge
will become less stuck down. Then after burnishing choose the corner that looks to be the least
stuck down and grasp with tongs. pull gently and slowly. You can often remove the entire rem-
nant in one pass.

I know this sounds complicated, but it is not at all and can be learned after just a few tries. I
have used this method for years. Also to keep it simple, you do not need a light box, just a
small sheet of glass and a butter knife.

Besides it's fun to learn new tricks. The small light box is really useful for many other tasks in-
volving stamps too.

Keep on stampin'....
TuskenRaider

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18 Nov 2015
10:29:03pm
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I learned something new today! Thank you

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rjan
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19 Nov 2015
08:41:17pm
re: Hinge Removal?

I usually use a small old small brush to stoke hinge remainders. It is therapeutic. It allows removal while avoiding complete immersion and waiting for the dry out. Gets new stuff in the album quicker.

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seanpashby
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23 Nov 2015
02:44:37pm
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This was taken from the book "How to Detect Damaged, Altered, and Repaired Stamps" by Paul Schmid.

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23 Nov 2015
08:25:27pm
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Wow, I have been doing it wrong all these years, I just dump them in a bowl of water from the kitchen faucet for a day or two and then put them in between some paper and under a bunch of heavy books and if I remember I take them out and put them in one of my albums or a glassine.

jeezlaweez go figure.

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Steve

23 Nov 2015
09:08:15pm
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Mark, I'm with you!

"I just dump them in a bowl of water from the kitchen faucet."


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23 Nov 2015
11:38:01pm
re: Hinge Removal?

I believe the book was talking about removing a hinge from an "unused" stamp to try to save as much gum as possible.

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Steve M, Frmly Long Isl, NY, Now Florida

15 Sep 2018
01:01:14pm
re: Hinge Removal?

I've used the rubbing the back of mint hinged stamps with rounded edge of thongs. Works pretty good. Now after decades of doing this, yesterday I added a twist. Place the stamp in a glassine envelope, Place it on a heavy peace of cardboard or your stamp catalog. Now when you rub the hinged side of the stamp, your can be a little bit more aggressive and not damage it while trying to remove the hinge. After taking the stamp out of the glassine, the hinge may simply fall off - or I pry the corner up by carefully sliding a Utility knife blade under the corner of the hinge to coax it a bit.
If that fails, that trick with soaking just the hinge with a brush sounds like the way to go - but more work.

Used stamps - original question - Soaking the safest bet . . .

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15 Sep 2018
01:37:39pm
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http://stampsmarter.com/learning/HowToRemoveHinges.html
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15 Sep 2018
07:53:00pm
re: Hinge Removal?

I was talking to a man at a show a few years back and he told me to add just a few drops of dish washing detergent (such as Dawn). he said that hes been doing it for years and it helped to get some of the dirt off the stamps and brighten them up. Haven't tried this but he swore by it.

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Tom in Exton, PA

16 Sep 2018
10:29:21am
re: Hinge Removal?

I'm one of those bowl of water guys! For standard hinges, they pretty much float off on their own within an hour.

Some of the 19th century stamps I've soaked had generation of hinges on them from being passed from collection to collection. Some of those early hinges were stamp selvage and other things you aren't going to peel off.


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michael78651

16 Sep 2018
11:16:47am
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There is an article by John Hotchner in the September 17, 2018, issue of Linn's that touches on this subject.

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malcolm197

21 Sep 2018
06:54:04pm
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Just a reminder. With fugitive inks make sure you get no water on the face of the stamp. I use a cotton bud or small artist brush to put the minimum of water on the hinge remnant only. If you have several to do use a sweat-box.

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BlackJack

18 Nov 2015
09:07:05am

Is there any problems with removing hinges from used postage stamps? When I buy some of my 19th Century issues they have parts of hinges on them. Is it OK to soak them off or should I just leave them alone? I only use hingeless mounting.

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carabop

18 Nov 2015
09:10:05am

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I think soaking them off would be appropriate beings they are used stamps.

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tomiseksj

18 Nov 2015
10:18:57am

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I soak any used stamps that I receive because hinge remnants will often mask faults such as thins. Hinge remnants may also prevent the stamp from laying flat when it is remounted.

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BlackJack

18 Nov 2015
10:59:20am

re: Hinge Removal?

What do people use as a soaking agent. In my early days of collecting it was just tap water. Today distilled water is probably better than what we have flowing through our taps for the paper.

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TuskenRaider

18 Nov 2015
01:54:17pm

re: Hinge Removal?

Hi BlackJack;

Just plain tap water is fine. If they are washed with several rinses in clean water they tend to
brighten up the paper and ink somewhat and look much better.

If you only have a couple to do and do not want to soak, try this. Lay stamp upside down on a
flat hard surface. A small piece of glass is perfect.

I use a 5x7 inch piece from an old picture frame. I mounted it to a box and added a light inside,
then a sheet of translucent white plastic as a light diffuser. This is similar to a light table used
by photographers to examine slides and photographic negatives. The light coming thru the
stamp will help to reveal flaws, thins and repairs. It can also double as a dry watermark detector
for the easier to identify watermarks.

To use for hinge removal, I use an old pair of tongs that have very rounded over spade tips
from years of use. You could also use an old butter knife as long as it has no sharp edges.
The knife is used as a burnishing tool. You are not trying to remove the hinge, but merely rub
gently across the hinge, from center toward edges, using a few ounces of pressure. Best to
practice this on damaged stamps or common ones, not those you want.

The burnishing caused the hardened gum of the hinge to fracture into a powder, and the hinge
will become less stuck down. Then after burnishing choose the corner that looks to be the least
stuck down and grasp with tongs. pull gently and slowly. You can often remove the entire rem-
nant in one pass.

I know this sounds complicated, but it is not at all and can be learned after just a few tries. I
have used this method for years. Also to keep it simple, you do not need a light box, just a
small sheet of glass and a butter knife.

Besides it's fun to learn new tricks. The small light box is really useful for many other tasks in-
volving stamps too.

Keep on stampin'....
TuskenRaider

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18 Nov 2015
10:29:03pm

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I learned something new today! Thank you

Andrew

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rjan

19 Nov 2015
08:41:17pm

re: Hinge Removal?

I usually use a small old small brush to stoke hinge remainders. It is therapeutic. It allows removal while avoiding complete immersion and waiting for the dry out. Gets new stuff in the album quicker.

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seanpashby

23 Nov 2015
02:44:37pm

re: Hinge Removal?

This was taken from the book "How to Detect Damaged, Altered, and Repaired Stamps" by Paul Schmid.

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fredcdobbs

APS # 224327
23 Nov 2015
08:25:27pm

re: Hinge Removal?

Wow, I have been doing it wrong all these years, I just dump them in a bowl of water from the kitchen faucet for a day or two and then put them in between some paper and under a bunch of heavy books and if I remember I take them out and put them in one of my albums or a glassine.

jeezlaweez go figure.

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Steve
23 Nov 2015
09:08:15pm

re: Hinge Removal?

Mark, I'm with you!

"I just dump them in a bowl of water from the kitchen faucet."


-Steve

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seanpashby

23 Nov 2015
11:38:01pm

re: Hinge Removal?

I believe the book was talking about removing a hinge from an "unused" stamp to try to save as much gum as possible.

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Steve M, Frmly Long Isl, NY, Now Florida
15 Sep 2018
01:01:14pm

re: Hinge Removal?

I've used the rubbing the back of mint hinged stamps with rounded edge of thongs. Works pretty good. Now after decades of doing this, yesterday I added a twist. Place the stamp in a glassine envelope, Place it on a heavy peace of cardboard or your stamp catalog. Now when you rub the hinged side of the stamp, your can be a little bit more aggressive and not damage it while trying to remove the hinge. After taking the stamp out of the glassine, the hinge may simply fall off - or I pry the corner up by carefully sliding a Utility knife blade under the corner of the hinge to coax it a bit.
If that fails, that trick with soaking just the hinge with a brush sounds like the way to go - but more work.

Used stamps - original question - Soaking the safest bet . . .

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15 Sep 2018
01:37:39pm

re: Hinge Removal?

http://stampsmarter.com/learning/HowToRemoveHinges.html
Don

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15 Sep 2018
07:53:00pm

re: Hinge Removal?

I was talking to a man at a show a few years back and he told me to add just a few drops of dish washing detergent (such as Dawn). he said that hes been doing it for years and it helped to get some of the dirt off the stamps and brighten them up. Haven't tried this but he swore by it.

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Tom in Exton, PA
16 Sep 2018
10:29:21am

re: Hinge Removal?

I'm one of those bowl of water guys! For standard hinges, they pretty much float off on their own within an hour.

Some of the 19th century stamps I've soaked had generation of hinges on them from being passed from collection to collection. Some of those early hinges were stamp selvage and other things you aren't going to peel off.


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michael78651

16 Sep 2018
11:16:47am

re: Hinge Removal?

There is an article by John Hotchner in the September 17, 2018, issue of Linn's that touches on this subject.

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malcolm197

21 Sep 2018
06:54:04pm

re: Hinge Removal?

Just a reminder. With fugitive inks make sure you get no water on the face of the stamp. I use a cotton bud or small artist brush to put the minimum of water on the hinge remnant only. If you have several to do use a sweat-box.

Malcolm

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