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michael78651

10 Nov 2015
01:40:10am
One day, when I was just a laddie, I was watching "Mutiny on the Bounty" on television. My father passed by, and quipped, "You know that's based on a true story."

I was enthralled. Ever since, I have been enamored with the story. I have all movie iterations of the tale, read the books and what else I can find. I have been a regular visitor on the Pitcairn Islands web site, and read their newspaper. Of course, I collect Pitcairn stamps as part of my world wide collection, but this is an area that has a special place for me.

A visit to the island is an item in my short bucket list. Don't know if that will ever happen. They have been looking for people to relocate there to live as the population is dropping. There are less than 50 people living on the island now. Sounds exciting, but new residents are expected to work, and the work isn't easy. If I were younger and single, maybe it would have been something I would have considered. Still, I like to travel about and see new things. Not so sure how one can spend years on a piece of rock that is only two miles big. Ah, but one can dream...

For those who also share the curiosity and intrigue of Pitcairn and its history, here is a link to the island's web site. The page provides images of all Pitcairn's stamps from beginning to date:

Pitcairn Island Stamps

Scroll down the left bar until you see "Past Issues" click on that, and the virtual album will be available to you.

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10 Nov 2015
09:31:08pm
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I agree with you, Michael -

Pitcairn is one of my collecting interests. A fascinating story, a fascinating island group and fascinating postal history!

There is a wonderful book called "Serpent In Paradise" (C.1997)by British travel writer and journalist Dea Birkett that tells a wonderful true story of a woman who visited the island and was accepted into their "inner circle", so to speak.
It's a fascinating modern glimpse into life on the island a a curious look into the lives of the islanders.


2000 mile from anywhere - how remote can you get!? LOL





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24 Nov 2015
04:58:14pm
re: Pitcairn Islands

I recently purchased an older year set still available from the Pitcairn Philatelic Bureau. I wanted to see how long it would take to get the stamps. Well, they arrived today (from New Zealand). Here is the cover. It is too large to fit fully on the scanner.

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25 Nov 2015
10:54:30pm
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Very nice, Michael - thanks for the scan!


I wonder if it was actually cancelled (i.e. 'serviced') on Pitcairn or in New Zealand, which is where their mail is actually serviced to the rest of the world.

Pitcairn mail has, in the past, been handled by N.Z. and sometimes philatelic mail never actually was even on the island.

Maybe this has changed in recent years.






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michael78651

26 Nov 2015
12:16:41am
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No, Randy, it was serviced and posted from New Zealand. It is stated underneath the seal for the Pitcairn Islands Philatelic Bureau. The envelope was just too big to show the entire cover.

As a result, it only took two weeks to get the stamps from New Zealand. If it had been posted from Pitcairn, it could have taken up to six months to get to me.

They have an island newsletter. It can be subscribed to in digital and hard print. I have been tempted to subscribe to the hard print. It is posted from the island. That would be kind of cool to get. I wonder if they would use Pitcairn stamps, or if they would use a meter or other mailing indicia?

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26 Nov 2015
06:34:55am
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Thanks for sharing this, Michael. I find this absolutely fascinating!
I would never have known all this about Pitcairn if it wasn't for stamp collecting!

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26 Nov 2015
10:50:07am
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Michael,

Thanks for the further info.


Meter or whatever, it would still be cool to have something that you KNOW was actually mailed from there, wouldn't it! Thumbs Up








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26 Nov 2015
10:53:41am
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I sold this one just last week:

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26 Nov 2015
12:20:14pm
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Why a Tahiti postcard from Pitcairn?

....maybe they stocked up in Tahiti before arriving on Pitcairn....


Last I heard, they have strict regulations about who can visit there. I wonder if that's changed any......






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26 Nov 2015
03:59:12pm
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Probably aboard a cruise ship.

US$8.00

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26 Nov 2015
09:37:20pm
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...not a bad deal...!






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michael78651

27 Nov 2015
12:26:21am
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"they have strict regulations about who can visit there"



The Pitcairn web site lists the rules. It's very restrictive for those wanting to live there (temporary or permanently).

Randy, you're right about it being something to get a piece of mail from the island. That's why I keep getting pulled into almost subscribing to their newsletter. I probably will subscribe one of these days. It's interesting reading about what they're doing on the island.

Roy...that wasn't nice. Happy

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michael78651

27 Nov 2015
01:07:35am
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Okay. I indulged myself. I subscribed to their newsletter. Been wanting to do that for a number of years... I'll just have to wait for the first one to arrive (three are sent at the same time), and see how they post it.

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27 Nov 2015
09:08:07am
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Michael, I'll be curiously waiting to hear from you when that bit of mail comes in!







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27 Nov 2015
03:09:34pm
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27 Nov 2015
06:52:09pm
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So far, not a word about the Bounty mutineers or Capt. William Bligh! (Perhaps so well-known as not to warrant reference here?) The Tahiti connection is direct - the Tahitian Polynesians accompanied the mutineers on Pitcairn. Or, if you prefer, the Lewis Milestone film of Mutiny on the Bounty was set in Tahiti and Brando's third wife was the Tahitian girl who was his co-star!

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04 Dec 2015
12:04:07am
re: Pitcairn Islands

I've always had an interest in Pitcairn Islands as well. Thankfully they have not gone crazy in the printing of new issues, however there are around 15 times more stamps printed than the number of people who typically live on the Islands.
I was trying one time to figure out what country/colony had more stamps printed per person than any other. Can't remember what I came up with but it was probably Pitcairn.
Another likely candidate would be Vatican City but only has 1:1.5 stamps per person.
Anyone know any other country or stamp issuing authority with a high ratio?

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michael78651

04 Dec 2015
03:07:22am
re: Pitcairn Islands

"I was trying one time to figure out what country/colony had more stamps printed per person than any other."



British Indian Ocean Territory.

Population = 0
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04 Dec 2015
03:35:05am
re: Pitcairn Islands

I sent an email to the person on the island who handles the newsletter. Here is part of the reply:

"...the newsletters are posted from the island using Pitcairn Island postage
stamps.

There are currently about 300 subscribers."



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04 Dec 2015
10:20:38pm
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Michael -


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michael78651

04 Dec 2015
10:49:51pm
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The annual subscription to the hard copy (monthly) costs $40.00 NZD (about $27.00 USD), postage included. They send three issues at a time. The annual online subscription is $20.00 NZD. With the hard copy subscription, the online version is not included. That surprised me.

$1.00 NZD = $0.67 USD (as of December 4).

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michael78651

08 Dec 2015
04:48:38pm
re: Pitcairn Islands

For those wanting to read an interesting online article on the mutiny, here is the link:

Mutiny on the Bounty

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michael78651

15 Jan 2016
03:04:04pm
re: Pitcairn Islands

Since I didn't win the Powerball, I can't buy the Pitcairn Islands.

I have been buying the Pitcairn annual year sets that are available through its philatelic bureau (in New Zealand). Takes about two weeks to get each package from there. Each has been franked with Pitcairn stamps, and nicely canceled to boot!

I received a package today with two more packs. There was a little surprise that they included:

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18 Jan 2016
10:12:24pm
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Wow, very nice! Exotic places and beautiful faces, it's a win-win!!

Great score!Thumbs Up

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michael78651

27 Mar 2016
12:46:34am
re: Pitcairn Islands

Randy, I'm still waiting to receive my first set of newsletters.

As for the stamps, I have caught up with the new issues through 2015. Since I bought the new definitive set, I didn't want to buy the year set, which includes the definitive set. So, I bought separately each of the sets that I needed to complete the year. Interesting that each set came enclosed in the corresponding four page new issue stamp bulletin. The bulletin provides the data for the stamps, and also includes historical information about the issue.

If anyone would like these bulletins, sans stamps, drop me a message with your address, and I'll send them to you.

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27 Mar 2016
12:18:55pm
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Thanks for the update, Michael.

...PM sent!

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michael78651

14 Apr 2016
02:35:14pm
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Today, I received my first set of the quarterly shipment of the monthly newsletter from the Pitcairn Islands. It was posted on March 1, so it took 6 weeks to arrive. The newsletters are from November 2015, December 2015 and January 2016.

This was my first direct mailing received from the island. Mail from the island philatelic agency comes from New Zealand and takes two weeks to arrive.

Interesting to note is the postal code for the Island: "1ZZ". I guess by the "ZZ", it means one can't go any farther!

A quick flip through the newsletters looks like these are going to be enjoyable to read. Each contains a capsule of the activities on the island, including special events, weather and even new stamp issues information. Each are around a dozen or so pages, and there are plenty of color pictures, drawings and charts. I'm really looking forward to reading the December issue, which has a feature article on the island Christmas celebrations. I have always been curious as to how people celebrate and live their lives.

I think these issues are keepers!

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14 Apr 2016
04:51:29pm
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Sounds fascinating Michael.Happy

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14 Apr 2016
05:06:56pm
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Sounds really great Michael, hope to hear more about this, what stamps were on the newsletters in the end?

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14 Apr 2016
05:15:27pm
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The newsletters were mailed in a large envelope. Here is the franking:

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When I receive mailings from the Pitcairn Islands Philatelic Agency (based in New Zealand), the envelopes have all sorts of different Pitcairn stamps on them.

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15 Apr 2016
08:38:38am
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Not a philatelic reference, but being aware of Bligh I have a family contact with Adventure Bay in Tasmania where Bligh also visited.

I read the book by Kathy Marks about the awful abuse that took place on Pitcairn (not acceptable on any level but not completely surprising in such a closed society) and formed an interest.

There is a bookface page about the construction a new pier 'tedside': https://www.facebook.com/Pitcairn-Alternative-Harbour-Project-1478758655735030/?fref=ts

It looks as though they are now encouraging immigration. They will provide free land on a leasehold basis.


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17 Dec 2017
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11 Mar 2021
07:09:42am
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I believe the stamped ones were stamped on the island. My dad brought these back for me when I was at school so many years since. He also had letters stamped on the island sent to my mum. Don't know where they are. I guess my mum threw then away.
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michael78651

10 Nov 2015
01:40:10am

One day, when I was just a laddie, I was watching "Mutiny on the Bounty" on television. My father passed by, and quipped, "You know that's based on a true story."

I was enthralled. Ever since, I have been enamored with the story. I have all movie iterations of the tale, read the books and what else I can find. I have been a regular visitor on the Pitcairn Islands web site, and read their newspaper. Of course, I collect Pitcairn stamps as part of my world wide collection, but this is an area that has a special place for me.

A visit to the island is an item in my short bucket list. Don't know if that will ever happen. They have been looking for people to relocate there to live as the population is dropping. There are less than 50 people living on the island now. Sounds exciting, but new residents are expected to work, and the work isn't easy. If I were younger and single, maybe it would have been something I would have considered. Still, I like to travel about and see new things. Not so sure how one can spend years on a piece of rock that is only two miles big. Ah, but one can dream...

For those who also share the curiosity and intrigue of Pitcairn and its history, here is a link to the island's web site. The page provides images of all Pitcairn's stamps from beginning to date:

Pitcairn Island Stamps

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10 Nov 2015
09:31:08pm

re: Pitcairn Islands

I agree with you, Michael -

Pitcairn is one of my collecting interests. A fascinating story, a fascinating island group and fascinating postal history!

There is a wonderful book called "Serpent In Paradise" (C.1997)by British travel writer and journalist Dea Birkett that tells a wonderful true story of a woman who visited the island and was accepted into their "inner circle", so to speak.
It's a fascinating modern glimpse into life on the island a a curious look into the lives of the islanders.


2000 mile from anywhere - how remote can you get!? LOL





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24 Nov 2015
04:58:14pm

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I recently purchased an older year set still available from the Pitcairn Philatelic Bureau. I wanted to see how long it would take to get the stamps. Well, they arrived today (from New Zealand). Here is the cover. It is too large to fit fully on the scanner.

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10:54:30pm

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Very nice, Michael - thanks for the scan!


I wonder if it was actually cancelled (i.e. 'serviced') on Pitcairn or in New Zealand, which is where their mail is actually serviced to the rest of the world.

Pitcairn mail has, in the past, been handled by N.Z. and sometimes philatelic mail never actually was even on the island.

Maybe this has changed in recent years.






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26 Nov 2015
12:16:41am

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No, Randy, it was serviced and posted from New Zealand. It is stated underneath the seal for the Pitcairn Islands Philatelic Bureau. The envelope was just too big to show the entire cover.

As a result, it only took two weeks to get the stamps from New Zealand. If it had been posted from Pitcairn, it could have taken up to six months to get to me.

They have an island newsletter. It can be subscribed to in digital and hard print. I have been tempted to subscribe to the hard print. It is posted from the island. That would be kind of cool to get. I wonder if they would use Pitcairn stamps, or if they would use a meter or other mailing indicia?

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26 Nov 2015
06:34:55am

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Thanks for sharing this, Michael. I find this absolutely fascinating!
I would never have known all this about Pitcairn if it wasn't for stamp collecting!

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26 Nov 2015
10:50:07am

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Michael,

Thanks for the further info.


Meter or whatever, it would still be cool to have something that you KNOW was actually mailed from there, wouldn't it! Thumbs Up








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I sold this one just last week:

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26 Nov 2015
12:20:14pm

re: Pitcairn Islands

Why a Tahiti postcard from Pitcairn?

....maybe they stocked up in Tahiti before arriving on Pitcairn....


Last I heard, they have strict regulations about who can visit there. I wonder if that's changed any......






Randy


P.S. to Roy;
How much did it sell for, if I may ask?

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Probably aboard a cruise ship.

US$8.00

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26 Nov 2015
09:37:20pm

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...not a bad deal...!






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michael78651

27 Nov 2015
12:26:21am

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"they have strict regulations about who can visit there"



The Pitcairn web site lists the rules. It's very restrictive for those wanting to live there (temporary or permanently).

Randy, you're right about it being something to get a piece of mail from the island. That's why I keep getting pulled into almost subscribing to their newsletter. I probably will subscribe one of these days. It's interesting reading about what they're doing on the island.

Roy...that wasn't nice. Happy

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27 Nov 2015
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Okay. I indulged myself. I subscribed to their newsletter. Been wanting to do that for a number of years... I'll just have to wait for the first one to arrive (three are sent at the same time), and see how they post it.

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Michael, I'll be curiously waiting to hear from you when that bit of mail comes in!







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27 Nov 2015
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27 Nov 2015
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So far, not a word about the Bounty mutineers or Capt. William Bligh! (Perhaps so well-known as not to warrant reference here?) The Tahiti connection is direct - the Tahitian Polynesians accompanied the mutineers on Pitcairn. Or, if you prefer, the Lewis Milestone film of Mutiny on the Bounty was set in Tahiti and Brando's third wife was the Tahitian girl who was his co-star!

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re: Pitcairn Islands

I've always had an interest in Pitcairn Islands as well. Thankfully they have not gone crazy in the printing of new issues, however there are around 15 times more stamps printed than the number of people who typically live on the Islands.
I was trying one time to figure out what country/colony had more stamps printed per person than any other. Can't remember what I came up with but it was probably Pitcairn.
Another likely candidate would be Vatican City but only has 1:1.5 stamps per person.
Anyone know any other country or stamp issuing authority with a high ratio?

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04 Dec 2015
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"I was trying one time to figure out what country/colony had more stamps printed per person than any other."



British Indian Ocean Territory.

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04 Dec 2015
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I sent an email to the person on the island who handles the newsletter. Here is part of the reply:

"...the newsletters are posted from the island using Pitcairn Island postage
stamps.

There are currently about 300 subscribers."



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Michael -


How much was the subscription and for how long?









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04 Dec 2015
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The annual subscription to the hard copy (monthly) costs $40.00 NZD (about $27.00 USD), postage included. They send three issues at a time. The annual online subscription is $20.00 NZD. With the hard copy subscription, the online version is not included. That surprised me.

$1.00 NZD = $0.67 USD (as of December 4).

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08 Dec 2015
04:48:38pm

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For those wanting to read an interesting online article on the mutiny, here is the link:

Mutiny on the Bounty

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15 Jan 2016
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Since I didn't win the Powerball, I can't buy the Pitcairn Islands.

I have been buying the Pitcairn annual year sets that are available through its philatelic bureau (in New Zealand). Takes about two weeks to get each package from there. Each has been franked with Pitcairn stamps, and nicely canceled to boot!

I received a package today with two more packs. There was a little surprise that they included:

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18 Jan 2016
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Wow, very nice! Exotic places and beautiful faces, it's a win-win!!

Great score!Thumbs Up

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27 Mar 2016
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Randy, I'm still waiting to receive my first set of newsletters.

As for the stamps, I have caught up with the new issues through 2015. Since I bought the new definitive set, I didn't want to buy the year set, which includes the definitive set. So, I bought separately each of the sets that I needed to complete the year. Interesting that each set came enclosed in the corresponding four page new issue stamp bulletin. The bulletin provides the data for the stamps, and also includes historical information about the issue.

If anyone would like these bulletins, sans stamps, drop me a message with your address, and I'll send them to you.

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27 Mar 2016
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Thanks for the update, Michael.

...PM sent!

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14 Apr 2016
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Today, I received my first set of the quarterly shipment of the monthly newsletter from the Pitcairn Islands. It was posted on March 1, so it took 6 weeks to arrive. The newsletters are from November 2015, December 2015 and January 2016.

This was my first direct mailing received from the island. Mail from the island philatelic agency comes from New Zealand and takes two weeks to arrive.

Interesting to note is the postal code for the Island: "1ZZ". I guess by the "ZZ", it means one can't go any farther!

A quick flip through the newsletters looks like these are going to be enjoyable to read. Each contains a capsule of the activities on the island, including special events, weather and even new stamp issues information. Each are around a dozen or so pages, and there are plenty of color pictures, drawings and charts. I'm really looking forward to reading the December issue, which has a feature article on the island Christmas celebrations. I have always been curious as to how people celebrate and live their lives.

I think these issues are keepers!

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14 Apr 2016
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Sounds fascinating Michael.Happy

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14 Apr 2016
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14 Apr 2016
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The newsletters were mailed in a large envelope. Here is the franking:

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When I receive mailings from the Pitcairn Islands Philatelic Agency (based in New Zealand), the envelopes have all sorts of different Pitcairn stamps on them.

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postagedues

15 Apr 2016
08:38:38am

re: Pitcairn Islands

Not a philatelic reference, but being aware of Bligh I have a family contact with Adventure Bay in Tasmania where Bligh also visited.

I read the book by Kathy Marks about the awful abuse that took place on Pitcairn (not acceptable on any level but not completely surprising in such a closed society) and formed an interest.

There is a bookface page about the construction a new pier 'tedside': https://www.facebook.com/Pitcairn-Alternative-Harbour-Project-1478758655735030/?fref=ts

It looks as though they are now encouraging immigration. They will provide free land on a leasehold basis.


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17 Dec 2017
12:08:36am

re: Pitcairn Islands

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I09T09N46

11 Mar 2021
07:09:42am

re: Pitcairn Islands

I believe the stamped ones were stamped on the island. My dad brought these back for me when I was at school so many years since. He also had letters stamped on the island sent to my mum. Don't know where they are. I guess my mum threw then away.
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