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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Germany Reverse Overprint

 

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01 Oct 2015
06:33:48am

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In a "throw in collection" of Germany in a small Lindner album that was in a box lot, there was a copy of Germany #589A, MNH, with the overprint on the front and back. I do havea Michel catalog but not being able to read German, I don't know if these stamps are listed in it. Has anyone ever seen one and better yet, what are they considered. Errors? Thanks for your helpImage Not Found

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01 Oct 2015
08:22:06am
re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Hi Soundcrest,

That's an interesting stamp.

The overprint shown on the back of the stamp here is reversed so it's not a second regular overprint but an offset print (or "set-off" if you prefer) on the back.


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01 Oct 2015
08:56:23am

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re: Germany Reverse Overprint

I didn't even notice that it was reversed. I found one image of something similar but in that one it was not reversed.

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01 Oct 2015
11:06:34am
re: Germany Reverse Overprint

It's rather difficult to see from your scan, but I'm assuming this is an Allied Occupation stamp of 1946, Michel 929 or SG 917. (It's a good idea to try to give as many catalogue numbers as you can, remembering that not everyone has a Scott.)

Like you, I have a Michel catalogue (Spezial 2011) and don't read German. However, I cannot find the key word Aufdruck on or near the relevant page, nor an illustration of your overprint.

Best of luck - surely someone will know these stamps.



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nigelc
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01 Oct 2015
11:24:56am
re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Hi Guthrum,

The stamp is SG A82 / Michel 64 I of the British and American Zones.

Michel lists various overprint varieties: inverted, double, double with one inverted etc.

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01 Oct 2015
11:33:14am
re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Soundcrest:

If I cannot read a language I type a few words at the time into Google Translate.

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01 Oct 2015
11:58:29am

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re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Thanks everyone!

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01 Oct 2015
12:34:42pm
re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Ah, only 763 pages out (in my catalogue), then. The importance of scanning a stamp face up! Thanks, Nigel, and, yes, Google Translate is your friend, Soundcrest.

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02 Oct 2015
08:44:58am
re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Nigel nailed it; it is always difficult to add to his astute comments. There are actually some legitimate varieties of this set with overprints on back of the stamp, but the stamp shown is only an off-set, as has already been said. In other words, not a variety, only an EFO. There actually is an explicit warning at the bottom of the listing for this issue in the Michel Specialized not too confuse overprints on the back with off-sets, stating, in short: overprints -- mouthpiece left; off-sets -- mouthpiece right.


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01 Oct 2015
06:33:48am

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Hi,

In a "throw in collection" of Germany in a small Lindner album that was in a box lot, there was a copy of Germany #589A, MNH, with the overprint on the front and back. I do havea Michel catalog but not being able to read German, I don't know if these stamps are listed in it. Has anyone ever seen one and better yet, what are they considered. Errors? Thanks for your helpImage Not Found

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01 Oct 2015
08:22:06am

re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Hi Soundcrest,

That's an interesting stamp.

The overprint shown on the back of the stamp here is reversed so it's not a second regular overprint but an offset print (or "set-off" if you prefer) on the back.


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01 Oct 2015
08:56:23am

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re: Germany Reverse Overprint

I didn't even notice that it was reversed. I found one image of something similar but in that one it was not reversed.

Greg

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Guthrum

01 Oct 2015
11:06:34am

re: Germany Reverse Overprint

It's rather difficult to see from your scan, but I'm assuming this is an Allied Occupation stamp of 1946, Michel 929 or SG 917. (It's a good idea to try to give as many catalogue numbers as you can, remembering that not everyone has a Scott.)

Like you, I have a Michel catalogue (Spezial 2011) and don't read German. However, I cannot find the key word Aufdruck on or near the relevant page, nor an illustration of your overprint.

Best of luck - surely someone will know these stamps.



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nigelc

01 Oct 2015
11:24:56am

re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Hi Guthrum,

The stamp is SG A82 / Michel 64 I of the British and American Zones.

Michel lists various overprint varieties: inverted, double, double with one inverted etc.

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Charlie2009

01 Oct 2015
11:33:14am

re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Soundcrest:

If I cannot read a language I type a few words at the time into Google Translate.

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01 Oct 2015
11:58:29am

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re: Germany Reverse Overprint

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Guthrum

01 Oct 2015
12:34:42pm

re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Ah, only 763 pages out (in my catalogue), then. The importance of scanning a stamp face up! Thanks, Nigel, and, yes, Google Translate is your friend, Soundcrest.

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02 Oct 2015
08:44:58am

re: Germany Reverse Overprint

Nigel nailed it; it is always difficult to add to his astute comments. There are actually some legitimate varieties of this set with overprints on back of the stamp, but the stamp shown is only an off-set, as has already been said. In other words, not a variety, only an EFO. There actually is an explicit warning at the bottom of the listing for this issue in the Michel Specialized not too confuse overprints on the back with off-sets, stating, in short: overprints -- mouthpiece left; off-sets -- mouthpiece right.


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