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Asia/China : China 1894 high values forgeries?

 

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AntoniusRa
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17 Sep 2015
01:29:44am
I won these in an auction a couple weeks ago and just received them.
Someone question whether they were forgeries or not. He said the color and cancels were questionable. I haven't spent much time on China since I was a kid so I am not very familiar with it's stamps. The colors on these look like the colors illustrated in Scott's as far as the cancels go, I would not know. I looked around the web for a site that showed early forgeries but did not see any of these. If anyone is knowledgeable in the issue or can point me to website, I'd appreciate the help.Image Not Found

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samliu

17 Sep 2015
08:35:22am
re: China 1894 high values forgeries?

The Chinese English cancel on 9 cents started in use from 1898 at the time the un-overprinted stamps of this set already stopped.

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khj
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17 Sep 2015
09:04:04am
re: China 1894 high values forgeries?

Color shades exists for all values, so unless the color difference is dramatic, shades are not a reliable method.

But I agree with the above posted conclusions -- all three are forgeries. When compared to genuine stamps, there are clear differences in both the Chinese and English characters, as Nelson has shown.

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17 Sep 2015
01:37:05pm
re: China 1894 high values forgeries?

Thanks much for the info and especially the comparison scans, they say it all. Not what I wanted to hear but it's not the first time. Guess I need to have a talk with the auction house.

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AntoniusRa

The truth is within and only you can reveal it
17 Sep 2015
01:29:44am

I won these in an auction a couple weeks ago and just received them.
Someone question whether they were forgeries or not. He said the color and cancels were questionable. I haven't spent much time on China since I was a kid so I am not very familiar with it's stamps. The colors on these look like the colors illustrated in Scott's as far as the cancels go, I would not know. I looked around the web for a site that showed early forgeries but did not see any of these. If anyone is knowledgeable in the issue or can point me to website, I'd appreciate the help.Image Not Found

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samliu

17 Sep 2015
08:35:22am

re: China 1894 high values forgeries?

The Chinese English cancel on 9 cents started in use from 1898 at the time the un-overprinted stamps of this set already stopped.

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khj

17 Sep 2015
09:04:04am

re: China 1894 high values forgeries?

Color shades exists for all values, so unless the color difference is dramatic, shades are not a reliable method.

But I agree with the above posted conclusions -- all three are forgeries. When compared to genuine stamps, there are clear differences in both the Chinese and English characters, as Nelson has shown.

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AntoniusRa

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17 Sep 2015
01:37:05pm

re: China 1894 high values forgeries?

Thanks much for the info and especially the comparison scans, they say it all. Not what I wanted to hear but it's not the first time. Guess I need to have a talk with the auction house.

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