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The Indianapolis cancel was in an album of Dad's. The others were among many thousands of stamps that were stashed in a wooden crate in Dad's attic.
I sold these and many, many others on eBay 10-15 years ago.
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nice Keesindy, you reminded me of my Guatemala fancy cancels..here are a few i broke loose from a blank page in my album..i think its time to consolidate my fancy cancels in plastic stock cards so i can pull them for easier viewing !
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Found another in one of the Portuguese colonies collections I had purchase back in the '80s. It's Azores Scott #100. The cancel is ANGRA DO HEROISMO.
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Here's another from a Portuguese colony, St. Thomas & Prince this time. A little heavy on the ink, but very nicely centered.
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It should be noted that the Austrian stamp at the top of the thread only shows part of the postmark - there would have been a slogan or wavy line to the left.
How does this qualify as socked on the nose? Surely this term should only apply to a individual circular handstamp and not just the slug part of a composite machine cancel? - or I am off beam here? As a postmark collector, rather than a stamp collector looking for an attractive cancellation on a used stamp, I would prefer to have the stamp and the entire postmark on a rectangular piece. I have a lot of cancellations like this on Austrian stamps culled from kiloware, and if I ever receive full postmarks on piece they will be disposed of by trade probably but stamps on piece of this vintage just do not turn up very often.
As a postmark collector ( I am a stamp collector as well ) it is amazing just how scarce complete postmarks are - it seems you have to collect these while they are current.
By the way you might like to know that the "Talsarn" postmark is likely quite scarce. It is a very small hamlet in West Wales ( although at the time it did have a railway"halt" ). A google search does not elicit very much in the way of information so today it must be a very insignificant place indeed!
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A selection of Barbados "Vickies" with SON cancels. I love cancels that actually frame the face, such as these.
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Here is another that I once had in my collection.
Ubangi Chari Scott #2.
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Hi Malcolm,
Was perusing here, spotted your questioning socked-on-the-nose validity and thought I'd throw my two cents in: I would say that the Austrian stamp that apparently also had a wavy line attachment would in my opinion still quality as a socked-on-the-nose example. Why not? We see the informational portion of the circle date stamp machine cancel. If there were only wavy lines, likely an incomplete cancel because of their size, then I would say no. However, fancy cancels were sometimes accompanied by a circle date stamp and the various stars, geometrics, etc. still qualify as socked-on-the-nose.
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"Socked-on-the-nose" while being a world-wide collecting interest appears to be particularly popular in the USA, which means that "standards" are likely to be set there - hence my question.
I suppose it all depends, as in many things, on the context.
A nice SOTN cancel obviously makes a stamp in a stamp collection very desirable. However as a postmark collector I would be looking for a complete example as even wavy lines vary -number of lines, distance between peaks and or troughs etc.
I have examples of postmarks with quite minor differences in slogans, date slugs, and wording, which in order to appreciate fully have to be compared as complete postmarks one with another. The problem these days is getting hold of complete cancellations on piece.
Malcoolm
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http://www.sockedonthenose.com
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Before spray cancels were introduced, I used to always place my stamps offset from the upper right corner of the envelope hoping to catch a perfect Sock-on-the-Nose cancel. I even made up a little template for placing stamps on the envelopes. If I remember correctly, the APS used to have the "place stamp here" box situated on the envelope to catch the CDS cancel, too.
Gosh I miss those machine cancels!
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I encountered another pretty good SOTN example on an old album page over the weekend.
Cape Verde Scott #50 with 15 March, 1899 S. VICENTE circular date stamp.
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I have a small collection of SOTN stamps, this one on a postcard I really like.
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Great Britain, Queen Victoria, 1876 Issue, Scott #73, Plate 1 (DH) - Used with CDS, "Kingston On Thames", March 27, 1878. (Cancel duplex with Barred numeral 422).
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@rtv, possibly Kingston (Up)on Thames, but not London.
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"@rtv, possibly Kingston (Up)on Thames, but not London."
My mistake, thanks Vic, now it as corrected
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The Indianapolis cancel was in an album of Dad's. The others were among many thousands of stamps that were stashed in a wooden crate in Dad's attic.
I sold these and many, many others on eBay 10-15 years ago.
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nice Keesindy, you reminded me of my Guatemala fancy cancels..here are a few i broke loose from a blank page in my album..i think its time to consolidate my fancy cancels in plastic stock cards so i can pull them for easier viewing !
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Found another in one of the Portuguese colonies collections I had purchase back in the '80s. It's Azores Scott #100. The cancel is ANGRA DO HEROISMO.
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Here's another from a Portuguese colony, St. Thomas & Prince this time. A little heavy on the ink, but very nicely centered.
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re: bulls eye or socked on nose cancel fans !
It should be noted that the Austrian stamp at the top of the thread only shows part of the postmark - there would have been a slogan or wavy line to the left.
How does this qualify as socked on the nose? Surely this term should only apply to a individual circular handstamp and not just the slug part of a composite machine cancel? - or I am off beam here? As a postmark collector, rather than a stamp collector looking for an attractive cancellation on a used stamp, I would prefer to have the stamp and the entire postmark on a rectangular piece. I have a lot of cancellations like this on Austrian stamps culled from kiloware, and if I ever receive full postmarks on piece they will be disposed of by trade probably but stamps on piece of this vintage just do not turn up very often.
As a postmark collector ( I am a stamp collector as well ) it is amazing just how scarce complete postmarks are - it seems you have to collect these while they are current.
By the way you might like to know that the "Talsarn" postmark is likely quite scarce. It is a very small hamlet in West Wales ( although at the time it did have a railway"halt" ). A google search does not elicit very much in the way of information so today it must be a very insignificant place indeed!
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A selection of Barbados "Vickies" with SON cancels. I love cancels that actually frame the face, such as these.
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Here is another that I once had in my collection.
Ubangi Chari Scott #2.
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Hi Malcolm,
Was perusing here, spotted your questioning socked-on-the-nose validity and thought I'd throw my two cents in: I would say that the Austrian stamp that apparently also had a wavy line attachment would in my opinion still quality as a socked-on-the-nose example. Why not? We see the informational portion of the circle date stamp machine cancel. If there were only wavy lines, likely an incomplete cancel because of their size, then I would say no. However, fancy cancels were sometimes accompanied by a circle date stamp and the various stars, geometrics, etc. still qualify as socked-on-the-nose.
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re: bulls eye or socked on nose cancel fans !
"Socked-on-the-nose" while being a world-wide collecting interest appears to be particularly popular in the USA, which means that "standards" are likely to be set there - hence my question.
I suppose it all depends, as in many things, on the context.
A nice SOTN cancel obviously makes a stamp in a stamp collection very desirable. However as a postmark collector I would be looking for a complete example as even wavy lines vary -number of lines, distance between peaks and or troughs etc.
I have examples of postmarks with quite minor differences in slogans, date slugs, and wording, which in order to appreciate fully have to be compared as complete postmarks one with another. The problem these days is getting hold of complete cancellations on piece.
Malcoolm
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http://www.sockedonthenose.com
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Before spray cancels were introduced, I used to always place my stamps offset from the upper right corner of the envelope hoping to catch a perfect Sock-on-the-Nose cancel. I even made up a little template for placing stamps on the envelopes. If I remember correctly, the APS used to have the "place stamp here" box situated on the envelope to catch the CDS cancel, too.
Gosh I miss those machine cancels!
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re: bulls eye or socked on nose cancel fans !
I encountered another pretty good SOTN example on an old album page over the weekend.
Cape Verde Scott #50 with 15 March, 1899 S. VICENTE circular date stamp.
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I have a small collection of SOTN stamps, this one on a postcard I really like.
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Great Britain, Queen Victoria, 1876 Issue, Scott #73, Plate 1 (DH) - Used with CDS, "Kingston On Thames", March 27, 1878. (Cancel duplex with Barred numeral 422).
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@rtv, possibly Kingston (Up)on Thames, but not London.
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"@rtv, possibly Kingston (Up)on Thames, but not London."
My mistake, thanks Vic, now it as corrected
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