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Thanks in advance for the help.
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That's quite a lot of stamps you've posted there, Blair, especially as I am still not sure how much or what sort of help you require. Others will doubtless supply you with Scott catalogue numbers for these, and maybe the time has come for you to acquire a second-hand general catalogue so that you can become better acquainted with your purchases.
Anyway, top down: a Maxim Gorky commemoration stamp; two 13th Young Communist League Congress stamps; two 40th anniversary of WW2 stamps; two 40th anniversary of the Red Army stamps; two stamps marking the launching of the Second Artificial Satellite in 1957; a stamp marked "disarmament and international cooperation", Stockholm Conference 1958; a 1958 stamp commemorating Jan Amos Komensky (John Amos Comenius); a set of 8 National Sports stamps from 1949; two stamps showing the Soviet pavilion at the Brussels International Exhibition in 1958.
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Thanks! That's what I needed. I would like to find out the Scott numbers if anyone knows. I've started collecting but only US stamps. To be honest I plan to sell these. Your answer gives me a place to start looking to try to find out if I can get anything for them.
I know they aren't rare or valuable but if I can get a few $s for them I can put that into something I need for my US collection.
Thanks again,
Blair
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The stamps are of minimal value and probably not worth your time in trying to sell. Your local library should have a set of Scott catalogs. When looking for ID's for many stamps it is a good place to start. There is an online catalog for the world with pictures and prices, you can find it here: http://www.stampworld.com/en/maps/Europe/
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Thanks that site helps a lot!
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" I plan to sell these."
If you are planning to sell stamps, then it is your responsibility to obtain the tools necessary to do that. In my opinion, it is unfair to ask other members to work up your items for sale from which they will not receive any benefit from the proceeds.
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I don't sell stamps for a living... I JUST started collecting stamps.... I'm quite sure the value of these few Russian stamps would not pay for me to go buy a Scotts... since besides these few Russian stamps I have, the value of my stamps means nothing to me I came to another resource I had available to me...
I'm sorry if my doing so offended you Michael... I'll keep any further price questions I have to myself or other sources
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It doesn't hurt to ask. Some of us enjoy the practice of looking up stamps from unfamiliar areas, and questions like these give us an excuse.
Frankly, I'm surprised by the above responses that seem to be annoyed by the question. Emotion and tone do not come across clearly on the internet, and I bet the posters did not mean to sound so condescending, but when I read their posts I too thought they sounded annoyed and offended. I agree that new collectors ought to learn how to use the catalogs, but there's no harm in their asking.
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I agree with your statement, Chris. I also acknowledge that newcomers need to learn, and asking questions and obtaining the tools of the hobby are part of that learning process.
The learning process also includes learning how to sell the product. Simply asking for a catalog number and value of an item so that it can be sold is not learning. Yes, we all run across a stamp now and them that we would like to sell, but don't have a clue as to its market value. That's different.
First learn the hobby. Learn about stamps. Learn how to identify stamps. Learn how to handle stamps. Learn how to determine stamp condition. Learn the differences between catalog, retail and market values. Learn how to fully describe a stamp. Ask questions all along this path in order to gain the knowledge to enjoy the hobby.
No one can ever accuse me of not being willing to help people learn either facet of the hobby. However, I have always taken exception (in any area of life) to "Please do my homework for me so that I can get good grades." With that there is no learning, only using.
If it appears that I jumped the gun on this, and maybe it hasn't or isn't going in that direction, then that is good, and I'm sorry, but it certainly has the indications of it.
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Don't sweat the small stuff. Ask your questions, most of us are happy to help but sometimes things hit us the wrong way and we become "snappish." Heaven knows I have done it often enough! 
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I'm sorry Michael but you're making a lot of assumptions there. Perhaps a little information about me and my situation will help you see just how wrong your assumptions were.
I am a full time caretaker for a disabled individual and have been for several years. I don't drive anymore because we can't afford insurance etc. My world is as far as I can walk from my home. There is no library within walking distance. I collect to help me keep my sanity. My primary field of collection is documents etc BECAUSE they give me something to research but my only access to research material is the internet. I spend hours at the computer every day doing research so I am far from lazy in that area.
Yes I'm new to collecting stamps and yes I may ask values from time to time, not because I'm too lazy to do the research myself but because asking in many instances is my ONLY access to that information.
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Perhaps fewer stamps per post next time, Blair? The USSR issued a great many stamps, and unless they happened to have a date on them, it can take a long time to find them in a catalogue. I would have no objection to spending that time if I felt that someone was taking an interest in Russian stamps and beginning a collection, but I do feel, with Michael, that my time is not well spent if all you are going to do is sell them off (or, as these stamps have minimal value, give them away).
Personally I have very little interest in a stamp's catalogue value, and if that is what you're really looking for, it's best I steer clear of your requests - my apologies if I have seemed stern.
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This is giving me a very bad taste in my mouth for stamp collecting...
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02:53:10pm
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You can send all the scans you want to me as an attachment to email and I will reference them for you. I am sure there are other members as well who would do likewise (maybe they will post here also). In the meantime, do not focus on the negative replies, but rather the positive ones.
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No one here has any problem with helping someone identify their stamps. When the requests come in numbers, and then there is the intent to sell, that normally goes beyond the help stage. Providing information up-front of special needs as to why the large number of requests, especially when there is the intent to sell, would help avoid misunderstandings as to why.
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Blair - don't get discouraged. There are many people here in similar situations as you. I specialize in Germany and USSR - unfortunately I'm not able to help much at the moment as I'm recovering from my 3rd surgery for breast cancer 2 weeks ago and my little guy just came home on Saturday from the hospital for surgery on his bladder.
One of the BEST place for identifying stamps is a free world catalogue online - http://www.stampworld.com/en/
Again, please don't get discouraged. Stamp collecting is a joy. It's true, we've had people come and simply want to sell whatever has been dumped into their lap by relatives, etc and expect us to identify everything for them or buy them. I honestly believe you do not have that intention. I wish I was feeling better to help you out. Once I am, I will, if you want to get in touch with me.
I always follow through with all my promises and just explain my current medical situation. I've got a good reputation here at SOR (I hope!) and I look forward to seeing more of what you have to share with us.
I've missed most of the posts this past month because my Mum passed away 2 weeks before my surgery so my world has turned upside down.
But please, don't get discouraged. We are here to share and help each other in our love of stamps.
Kelly
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There shows my lack of keeping up to date on the posts recently. I just scrolled up and noticed someone also mentioned stampworld.com - it really is an awesome site.
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Thank you Kelly and please get better quick! BOTH of you. My deepest condolences on your mother...
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"This is giving me a very bad taste in my mouth for stamp collecting..."
"As Bobby said " Don't sweat the small stuff. Ask your questions, most of us are happy to help but sometimes things hit us the wrong way and we become "snappish." Heaven knows I have done it often enough! Big Grin"
I'm glad to help toooooooooooo
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Thank you Blair. 
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Hey everyone--
Blair and I live less than an hour from each other, and especially after today's events, we exchanged phone numbers and this evening we spent over an hour talking stamps and getting to know each other.
I know **I** had a WONDERFUL time getting to know Blair, and we look forward to getting together hopefully later this week where can share further. He has a lot he brings here from his other collecting interests, by the way.
Remember my posting about mentoring? THIS is what I am talking about, people.
BOB
P.S. edited to reflect new avatar--Butterflies from Papua NG--doesn't get much better than that.
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When I get back to Florida, some months in the future, I may stay at another daughters house in the Winter Park area and if you guys want to get together for coffee some time I'd enjoy that.
Also, since you do know how to scan a stamp and you want to sell the Ruskies, Why not scan each one and put them in the auction, starting bid at 10¢ and see what happens.
There are several knowledgeable collectors here that will see if any are worth a bid and if one actually has a premium one member will outbid the other. If no one bites, then the stamps offered will be worth close to zero. If they sell you will have received what the market will bear and have a few dollars to spend on something you want in the USA section.
Problem solved.
Just read the Auction rules and systems pages first.
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I love Charlie's thoughts. It took me years to get to the point where I didn't try to ID every stamp, only to find, later, how little interest i had in many of them. This is not to denigrade those stamps, but to realize how I had developed interests in other things and that there simply was no way for me, mere mortal, to feed all those beasts.
Ultimately, continuing to this day, I strive to rid myself of material that isn't of itnerest to me, and I try not to sweat too much about what it is that I'm pitching.
the beauty of that approach, for me, is that I focus on what interests me more. but I'm still practicing on getting my philosophy right.
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Actually I gave them away through the freebie section yesterday. ..
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Help with these please. I know nothing about Soviet stamps. These came with a large collection of US stamps I purchased.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Blair
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That's quite a lot of stamps you've posted there, Blair, especially as I am still not sure how much or what sort of help you require. Others will doubtless supply you with Scott catalogue numbers for these, and maybe the time has come for you to acquire a second-hand general catalogue so that you can become better acquainted with your purchases.
Anyway, top down: a Maxim Gorky commemoration stamp; two 13th Young Communist League Congress stamps; two 40th anniversary of WW2 stamps; two 40th anniversary of the Red Army stamps; two stamps marking the launching of the Second Artificial Satellite in 1957; a stamp marked "disarmament and international cooperation", Stockholm Conference 1958; a 1958 stamp commemorating Jan Amos Komensky (John Amos Comenius); a set of 8 National Sports stamps from 1949; two stamps showing the Soviet pavilion at the Brussels International Exhibition in 1958.
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Thanks! That's what I needed. I would like to find out the Scott numbers if anyone knows. I've started collecting but only US stamps. To be honest I plan to sell these. Your answer gives me a place to start looking to try to find out if I can get anything for them.
I know they aren't rare or valuable but if I can get a few $s for them I can put that into something I need for my US collection.
Thanks again,
Blair
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The stamps are of minimal value and probably not worth your time in trying to sell. Your local library should have a set of Scott catalogs. When looking for ID's for many stamps it is a good place to start. There is an online catalog for the world with pictures and prices, you can find it here: http://www.stampworld.com/en/maps/Europe/
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" I plan to sell these."
If you are planning to sell stamps, then it is your responsibility to obtain the tools necessary to do that. In my opinion, it is unfair to ask other members to work up your items for sale from which they will not receive any benefit from the proceeds.
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I don't sell stamps for a living... I JUST started collecting stamps.... I'm quite sure the value of these few Russian stamps would not pay for me to go buy a Scotts... since besides these few Russian stamps I have, the value of my stamps means nothing to me I came to another resource I had available to me...
I'm sorry if my doing so offended you Michael... I'll keep any further price questions I have to myself or other sources
Blair
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It doesn't hurt to ask. Some of us enjoy the practice of looking up stamps from unfamiliar areas, and questions like these give us an excuse.
Frankly, I'm surprised by the above responses that seem to be annoyed by the question. Emotion and tone do not come across clearly on the internet, and I bet the posters did not mean to sound so condescending, but when I read their posts I too thought they sounded annoyed and offended. I agree that new collectors ought to learn how to use the catalogs, but there's no harm in their asking.
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I agree with your statement, Chris. I also acknowledge that newcomers need to learn, and asking questions and obtaining the tools of the hobby are part of that learning process.
The learning process also includes learning how to sell the product. Simply asking for a catalog number and value of an item so that it can be sold is not learning. Yes, we all run across a stamp now and them that we would like to sell, but don't have a clue as to its market value. That's different.
First learn the hobby. Learn about stamps. Learn how to identify stamps. Learn how to handle stamps. Learn how to determine stamp condition. Learn the differences between catalog, retail and market values. Learn how to fully describe a stamp. Ask questions all along this path in order to gain the knowledge to enjoy the hobby.
No one can ever accuse me of not being willing to help people learn either facet of the hobby. However, I have always taken exception (in any area of life) to "Please do my homework for me so that I can get good grades." With that there is no learning, only using.
If it appears that I jumped the gun on this, and maybe it hasn't or isn't going in that direction, then that is good, and I'm sorry, but it certainly has the indications of it.
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10:07:27am
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Blair
Don't sweat the small stuff. Ask your questions, most of us are happy to help but sometimes things hit us the wrong way and we become "snappish." Heaven knows I have done it often enough!
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I'm sorry Michael but you're making a lot of assumptions there. Perhaps a little information about me and my situation will help you see just how wrong your assumptions were.
I am a full time caretaker for a disabled individual and have been for several years. I don't drive anymore because we can't afford insurance etc. My world is as far as I can walk from my home. There is no library within walking distance. I collect to help me keep my sanity. My primary field of collection is documents etc BECAUSE they give me something to research but my only access to research material is the internet. I spend hours at the computer every day doing research so I am far from lazy in that area.
Yes I'm new to collecting stamps and yes I may ask values from time to time, not because I'm too lazy to do the research myself but because asking in many instances is my ONLY access to that information.
Blair
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re: Soviet Stamps 2
Perhaps fewer stamps per post next time, Blair? The USSR issued a great many stamps, and unless they happened to have a date on them, it can take a long time to find them in a catalogue. I would have no objection to spending that time if I felt that someone was taking an interest in Russian stamps and beginning a collection, but I do feel, with Michael, that my time is not well spent if all you are going to do is sell them off (or, as these stamps have minimal value, give them away).
Personally I have very little interest in a stamp's catalogue value, and if that is what you're really looking for, it's best I steer clear of your requests - my apologies if I have seemed stern.
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This is giving me a very bad taste in my mouth for stamp collecting...
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02:53:10pm
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Blair
You can send all the scans you want to me as an attachment to email and I will reference them for you. I am sure there are other members as well who would do likewise (maybe they will post here also). In the meantime, do not focus on the negative replies, but rather the positive ones.
Bobby
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03:33:20pm
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No one here has any problem with helping someone identify their stamps. When the requests come in numbers, and then there is the intent to sell, that normally goes beyond the help stage. Providing information up-front of special needs as to why the large number of requests, especially when there is the intent to sell, would help avoid misunderstandings as to why.
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14 Sep 2015
04:31:48pm
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Blair - don't get discouraged. There are many people here in similar situations as you. I specialize in Germany and USSR - unfortunately I'm not able to help much at the moment as I'm recovering from my 3rd surgery for breast cancer 2 weeks ago and my little guy just came home on Saturday from the hospital for surgery on his bladder.
One of the BEST place for identifying stamps is a free world catalogue online - http://www.stampworld.com/en/
Again, please don't get discouraged. Stamp collecting is a joy. It's true, we've had people come and simply want to sell whatever has been dumped into their lap by relatives, etc and expect us to identify everything for them or buy them. I honestly believe you do not have that intention. I wish I was feeling better to help you out. Once I am, I will, if you want to get in touch with me.
I always follow through with all my promises and just explain my current medical situation. I've got a good reputation here at SOR (I hope!) and I look forward to seeing more of what you have to share with us.
I've missed most of the posts this past month because my Mum passed away 2 weeks before my surgery so my world has turned upside down.
But please, don't get discouraged. We are here to share and help each other in our love of stamps.
Kelly
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There shows my lack of keeping up to date on the posts recently. I just scrolled up and noticed someone also mentioned stampworld.com - it really is an awesome site.
Kelly
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Thank you Kelly and please get better quick! BOTH of you. My deepest condolences on your mother...
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"This is giving me a very bad taste in my mouth for stamp collecting..."
"As Bobby said " Don't sweat the small stuff. Ask your questions, most of us are happy to help but sometimes things hit us the wrong way and we become "snappish." Heaven knows I have done it often enough! Big Grin"
I'm glad to help toooooooooooo
Bill
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Thank you Blair.
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Hey everyone--
Blair and I live less than an hour from each other, and especially after today's events, we exchanged phone numbers and this evening we spent over an hour talking stamps and getting to know each other.
I know **I** had a WONDERFUL time getting to know Blair, and we look forward to getting together hopefully later this week where can share further. He has a lot he brings here from his other collecting interests, by the way.
Remember my posting about mentoring? THIS is what I am talking about, people.
BOB
P.S. edited to reflect new avatar--Butterflies from Papua NG--doesn't get much better than that.
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15 Sep 2015
12:42:00am
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When I get back to Florida, some months in the future, I may stay at another daughters house in the Winter Park area and if you guys want to get together for coffee some time I'd enjoy that.
Also, since you do know how to scan a stamp and you want to sell the Ruskies, Why not scan each one and put them in the auction, starting bid at 10¢ and see what happens.
There are several knowledgeable collectors here that will see if any are worth a bid and if one actually has a premium one member will outbid the other. If no one bites, then the stamps offered will be worth close to zero. If they sell you will have received what the market will bear and have a few dollars to spend on something you want in the USA section.
Problem solved.
Just read the Auction rules and systems pages first.
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I love Charlie's thoughts. It took me years to get to the point where I didn't try to ID every stamp, only to find, later, how little interest i had in many of them. This is not to denigrade those stamps, but to realize how I had developed interests in other things and that there simply was no way for me, mere mortal, to feed all those beasts.
Ultimately, continuing to this day, I strive to rid myself of material that isn't of itnerest to me, and I try not to sweat too much about what it is that I'm pitching.
the beauty of that approach, for me, is that I focus on what interests me more. but I'm still practicing on getting my philosophy right.
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Actually I gave them away through the freebie section yesterday. ..
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